Installed *Black Matte* grills on my car.....

[iGro4Me]

^^^^ Not to mention I've heard of tranny issues after only using the "launch" feature a few( as in 3) times....which also coincidentally voids the warranty.....Want to know how much replacing the tranny with your own scratch is going to set you back ?

Me either.


That's like Batman telling Robin "Don't touch THIS button"......what's he going to do ?

Exactly....why have the stinkin thing if the owner can't use it regularly.

 

[Mr. Tony]

Yeah I heard about that. Guy used launch control a couple times, transmission fucks up, No longer under warranty, guy get a bill for $19,995 to replace the trany...

 

[Frostynugz]

Shite talk about getting bent over. I mean I know most ppl's response is "well if you can afford the car you can afford the maintenance,gas, insurance etc... but wow that hurt's 2g's is 2g's no matter how ya cut it. As far as what's in it? Better be the blood of an albino elephant @ those prices. In all seriousness couldn't you have a sample examined @ the lab? I know Nissan has put alot of engineering into this car and is very meticulous about their assembly so you never know if it's some ultra low friction high viscosity space grade shit. Then again you could be paying for all the time spent designing the fancy stickers on those quarts of oil. still a sexy car either way.

Nugz

 

[nycdfan042]

Thats just RAPE - AGE seriously! i mean but it is what you get for getting a SUPER CAR LOL i mean its not a regular car LOL. I mean after all it is a race car(but tuned for the street?) yet it requires a fucking pit crew? shit i still want one. fug it

 

[Bobby Stainless]

"Those of you 2009 Nissan GT-R haters out there, you're going to love this one. To the GT-R fanboys, well, sorry, this is going to be hard to make excuses for.

Last week we took our Nissan GT-R to Nissan of Santa Monica for routine service. We knew going in that this was going to be an expensive one. We'd been warned ahead of time that this service was not only an oil change (already expensive on these cars), but also a routine change of the differential and transaxle fluids.

Should be simple, right? Consider this: Automatic Transmission Fluid (GT-R specific) lists for $114.98 per quart. That's not a typo-- maybe an accounting error on Nissan's side, but not a typo. Forget Cristal we're going to start seeing hip-hop videos with rappers pouring this stuff on the ground while throwing dollars in the air. Don't worry, though, we didn't pay that. We got a deal; only $84.24 each. What a bargain.

Once you regain your breath-- lost either by laughing or screaming-- follow the jump for the full break-down of this service.

GTR Oil.jpg



Now that we've all had a good laugh (or cry), here's the breakdown.

Transmission & Diff fluid change:

8 Quarts (Our car took just under 8. They quote 10 quarts, but the ammount used is rarely, if ever, that high. Honest dealers will tell you what your car took. Dishonest ones can easily charge you for the full 10.) of GT-R Automatic Transmission Fluid @ $86.24/ea: $689.92

3 Quarts of GT-R specific differential oil @ $62.02/ea: $186.06

Labor: $500

Oil Change:

1 Oil Filter: $6.95 (finally, something normal)

6-quarts Mobil 1 Synthetic 0W40 @ 9.38/ea: $56.28

Labor: $150

New Engine Air Filters and in Cabin Microfilter: (We could have saved a few bucks and done this one ourselves, but the car was already in the shop.)

2 engine air filters @ $52.86/ea: $105.72

1 Micro Air filter: $53.38

Labor: $115.00

The remote entry was repaired at no cost.

Our service advisor also noted that our right-rear tire had lost a strip of rubber on the inner edge, metal was showing. We have a set of tires already orderd from Stokes Tire Pros in Santa Monica.

TOTALS

Labor: $817.50

Parts: 1,101.31

Tax: 90.86

Total charge: $2009.67

Days out of service (including estimates for the repair): 4

As easy and fun as this is going to be to skewer in the comments, here's a side challenge (which we've also got posted on a white board in our office): What could possibly be in the GT-R specific oil to make it cost $114 per quart?

Mike Magrath, Vehicle Testing Assistant @ 18,916 miles"

....

All that stuff can be bought on the internet at a much cheaper price, and then taken to the dealer.

I know plenty of R35 owners, and they don't pay that.

Also keep in mind, THIS IS A SUPERCAR.

Go and see what a F430, 997TT, or Gallardo cost to service...and then remember each of those cars are SLOWER than the GT-R.

Also, keep in mind that the GT-R posted the same time as a F430 Scuderia, on the Top Gear power lap.

Furthermore, the GT-R has recently posted an official time of 7:26 on the Ring, matching the ZR1s time...

That time is faster than a Carrera GT and a Zonda F Clubsport.

Now on to the DCT.

The warranty was never voided, by having the VDC off ( aka Launch Control). The feature is to free the car from snow or mud... Those are Nissans own words. Just happens to bee a coincidence that the 09 GT-R would lay down a 3.2 0-60 if you used it on tarmac.

Warranties were voided because, in the owner's manual it says "The car is not covered under the factory warranty when the VDC is off". After 50-100 launches dumb ass owners started grenading their trannies, and the law suits followed. None have won either. I am not sure of any car that can take repeated clutch drops at 4500 rpm.

Now for the GT-R I am getting, the 2010. The LC has now been changed, to where it revs to 3500 rpm, instead of 4500 rpm, thus making it a bit less violent. The result is a 0-60 of 3.3 and a 11.4 1/4 mile....BONE STOCK. Also, the VDC does not have to be turned off, so it is completely covered under warranty. You can launch that bitch from every stop light.

Hope this clears up some of the rumor. Get a TON of bad information, on car forums. Most HATE the GT-R.

 

[Mr. Tony]

All that stuff can be bought on the internet at a much cheaper price, and then taken to the dealer.

Well of course shit is cheap online


I know plenty of R35 owners, and they don't pay that.

DO most r35 owners work on their car them selves?

Also keep in mind, THIS IS A SUPERCAR.

There is a difference between a SUPERCAR and a car with super car performance. Do you classify the older skylines and supra TT's as a super car?

Go and see what a F430, 997TT, or Gallardo cost to service...and then remember each of those cars are SLOWER than the GT-R.


Both cars have an unarguable stigma about them that the GTR lacks.

Also, keep in mind that the GT-R posted the same time as a F430 Scuderia, on the Top Gear power lap.



Furthermore, the GT-R has recently posted an official time of 7:26 on the Ring, matching the ZR1s time...

That time is faster than a Carrera GT and a Zonda F Clubsport.

Now on to the DCT.

The warranty was never voided, by having the VDC off ( aka Launch Control). The feature is to free the car from snow or mud... Those are Nissans own words. Just happens to bee a coincidence that the 09 GT-R would lay down a 3.2 0-60 if you used it on tarmac.

Warranties were voided because, in the owner's manual it says "The car is not covered under the factory warranty when the VDC is off". After 50-100 launches dumb ass owners started grenading their trannies, and the law suits followed. None have won either. I am not sure of any car that can take repeated clutch drops at 4500 rpm.


I'm pretty sure the case I read about was a guy who used the LC only a handful of times before the trany went.

Now for the GT-R I am getting, the 2010. The LC has now been changed, to where it revs to 3500 rpm, instead of 4500 rpm, thus making it a bit less violent. The result is a 0-60 of 3.3 and a 11.4 1/4 mile....BONE STOCK. Also, the VDC does not have to be turned off, so it is completely covered under warranty. You can launch that bitch from every stop light.

Hope this clears up some of the rumor. Get a TON of bad information, on car forums. Most HATE the GT-R.

Don't get me wrong I think The r35 is a sweet car that may be comparable to other super cars on the track but to outright compare it to an f430 is plain wrong.

 

[spadedNfaded]

Ariel Atom

Ariel Atom

I can't let a car thread go without posting in it.

I'm a car fan myself. Since day 1.

The new GT-R looks like it could be pretty fun.

But from looks of sheer delight, i'd have to say Ariel's Atom takes the cake.

The Ariel Atom 500 is supposed to be one(if not the) of the fastest production cars ever built.

ever hear of it?

- SubN

 

[spadedNfaded]

El Vexilix Yes , those pink mesh rims are tight , so what

It's not pink, right? It's Cherry Blosson RED. lol...

- SubN

 

[swishaman]

Yeah ^ I want one.

0-60 in like what? 2.6s ? probably wrong though.

 

[Mr. Tony]

The atoms are so sick, especially those with the super charged CTR engine ( not a fan of gm 4 cylinders)

Though the whole no windshield kinda worries me... I'd wanna drive it on the street. one piece of gravel hitting my face at 100 mph doesn't sound fun.



I really really like the caterham series 7 though But I think I'm to tall to fit in it.

 

[Bobby Stainless]

0-60 in 3.3
1/4 mile in 11.4
1:19 Top Gear power lap
7:26 Ring time

Yeah...I'd say that is Supercar territory.

Tony...There is a difference between Supercar and Exotic. Ferrari, Zonda, Lambo, etc. are all exotics and sometimes supercars. The ZR1, SRT ACR, GT-R, 997TT these are rare, but not really exotic, however each one of them are supercars.

Hell, my daily driver got around the Ring and was only 5 seconds off a F430. While the F430 was a great car, it has been surpassed. If you need evidence, check their resale value. You can get a 05 F430 now for 140k... Which is really cheap!

This is your shit right cheer.

 

[iGro4Me]

Zonda's are done as of this year I believe.....

 

[Bobby Stainless]

And what powers a Zonda???

A AMG tuned Benz V12!

I love AMG. I think my final plan is to keep one of my cars and turn it into a tuning project. Sell my V and get a GT-R, and then find a 03-05 E55 AMG for my daily driver.

I saw a 03 E55 the other day for 23K!!! It only had 45k on the odo. Those cars have just under 500 hp! And they are sexy as hell!

 

[El Vexilix]

The R35 doesn't have launch control . We have to stop and realize that the U.S is full of dumb consumers that can't read a manual . VDC is not launch control , its for getting out of mud or snow . Why these pretendo racers use it at call it that is beyond me . But since we don't know how to use ANY technology wisely that Japanese are nice enough to release the new 2010 with an actual Launch Control feature for us idiots . I can hear the Japs laughing at us . We don't deserve the GT-R yet .

Hmm , I saw a Z for 10k , hmm, I wonder how much for this powertrain

I want to own a wreck yard , I'd be getting all the nice white ppl mistakes . (by white I don't mean skin color either)

her enginge should be good still . homer~~ * It's just a lil airborne , Its still good It's still good *

 

[weed science]

VDC = Vehicle Dynamic Control, its basically traction control, and I have it on my rwd car. VDC will actually prevent you from getting out of mud and snow, when you push the VDC its actually the VDC off button. VDC is usually turned off for spirited driving, breakin em loose, and going sideways. Yes turning VDC off is a lot of fun, but many have regretted turning it off.

 

[Bobby Stainless]

The R35 doesn't have launch control . We have to stop and realize that the U.S is full of dumb consumers that can't read a manual . VDC is not launch control , its for getting out of mud or snow . Why these pretendo racers use it at call it that is beyond me . But since we don't know how to use ANY technology wisely that Japanese are nice enough to release the new 2010 with an actual Launch Control feature for us idiots . I can hear the Japs laughing at us . We don't deserve the GT-R yet.

Basically, exactly what I said a few posts ago.

Except, for the whole "deserving" part. That makes absolutely NO sense.

Cars are not earned, the are bought and paid for. Who the fuck cares, how a person uses something they paid for.

Are you really telling me if you had a GT-R, you would never want to get the full acceleration out of it? That is complete bull shit.

 

[Frostynugz]

I coulda swore I heard on an episode of last season's Top Gear they said the Zonda is getting a complete makeover? Bobby you watch the show, am I dreaming here? lol

 

[El Vexilix]

Cars are not earned, the are bought and paid for. Who the fuck cares, how a person uses something they paid for.

Are you really telling me if you had a GT-R, you would never want to get the full acceleration out of it? That is complete bull shit.

You are right , we shouldn't care . But these dumb consumers
are not properly using a product and then spread'n bad rep on it or just bad information . It's like they are trying to microwave a burrito in the toaster and complaining why their kitchen is full of smoke . The ppl bustin the trans on these cars were the same ppl trying to push the square block through the circle hole when they were young .

And if I wanted to go balls out on the GT-R , I would read the owners manual first on how to do it safely or reliably .
It's like giving a novice an anti-lag system , you know they are going to blow the turbo or the engine quick because they don't know how to use the technology properly .

 

[Bobby Stainless]

If someone does not realize that clutch dropping a AWD 3800 pound car at 4500 rpm is bad, then they are absolute dumbasses.

I understand what you mean by that now. If you want to beat the shit out of your GT-R, go right ahead. Just don't whine about it when they do not honor the warranty.

 

[spadedNfaded]

Top Gear rated the Ariel Atom 2 at 0-60 in 2.9s. Any upgrades take it that much further.

They used a mindly tuned (supercharged) CTR engine in the test, however, they are made with the GM Ecotec now. The reason being more torque is more easily achieved.

As far as GM's 4 cylinders, they are pretty sweet as well. You can make gigantic power with those. More torque easier than any Honda 4cyl. I drive an Acura and i've got long roots in GM. So i don't take a side.

The problem with fast foreign cars these days is they rely too much on power adders or cutting waaaay back on weight. People think that running a 11.4 on a twin turbo inline is the bee's knees but in reality you can do that with a Vega and a GM Crate 383... and it'll cost you $60,000 less

The Ariel Atom with a GM high rev 327ci 327hp 350ft/lbs will shit on anything, all day, every day. You can't touch GM in terms of V8s. They've engineered countless v8 platforms that continually place in the top 2.

Can you make more power than a GM v8? sure. But if you plan on making a foreign(outside US) V8 as fast, you're going to be spending at LEAST 1.5x the amount.

It's why you see a lot of guys throwing the GM LS series (1, 2, 3, 4, 7) in their Mustangs, Supras, RX7s. for the price/performance, it just can't be beat.

As far as getting a piece of gravel in your face at 100mph? It's why they invented road racing helmets! hehe


- SubN