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Inheritance In Seeds Question

Inheritance In Seeds Question


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Tonygreen

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What does the inbreeding coefficient of a F1 population have to do with measuring your nutes?
 

purple_man

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oi fambz!

stop all this chit chat, wasnt the original question: "see sams thread title"???

by the way, since tony seems eager to ask questions and is willing for reading "stupid" answers, lets see, shall we?

an F1 has an inbreeding coeficient of 0, aka NADA -> for it's a HYBRID, ...

by the way, why and when did folks stop reading books and applying themselves??? or is it the internet making it even easier for lazy folks to google bullshit infos for convinence sakes and re-spread the disinformation???

blessss
 

Tonygreen

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My thoughts exactly purple man. Perhaps the sarcasm in my previous post was lost.

This thread started with a question opening a discussion about breeding and inheritance. This aint a thread about growing pot.

Anyone can grow pot with minimal effort and anyone can learn calculus with some extra effort.

It would be nice to see more "extra effort"...

You guys going off on tangents about personal feelings didn't notice the gems Tom threw out there...
Stop being so easily offended and you will learn some shit from him. Just my 2 cents...
 

iTarzan

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I edited because I am not staying involved in this thread.

Pardon the interruption.
 
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Coba

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Good morning Sam, Tom, Chimera and thread.

initially, I chose somewhere between the two, based on my fairly neonatal experience with cannabis propagation... which is nothing spectacular you know, just a good farmer keeps seeds right?


Anyways,
here's something that I think would help me understand this super intriguing topic a little better...

How is the size of the seed relative to the size of the flower's calyx's, does the seed influence the calyx or does the calyx determine the seed size?

Like, which came first, the seed or the calyx?
 
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Betterhaff

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I have to think the male has some influence. I’ve made seeds with a single female and multiple males and some of the resulting seeds were different. I didn’t pay much attention to the size of the seeds of the parents.
 
K

kopite

What does the inbreeding coefficient of a F1 population have to do with measuring your nutes?

ok I should of phrased it, "the maths is the same to get those seeds that you grow from"... as the numbers are high, but you have a better chance of producing better progeny when using something classed "elite" or is a keeper than crossing 2 inbred populations, why did Nev use NL5 or indeed SamS use certain clones that he got from his lines?... surely the more of these keepers found the better?

I'm not sure you get many "true" F1 populations in the seed market anyway, therefore need more F2's to go through to find good recombinants

Purple man - I'll stop the chit chat....
 
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stix~

the answer is .. there is no answer ... nobody knows everything there is to know about ganja... :peacock:

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Tonygreen

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So im goin through my beans and I notice these 3 giants, much larger than the rest of the brothers and sisters who are all similarly sized.

These came off the same plant? Giants? idk...



The rest (4-500) are uniform like the smaller ones on the right... I wouldnt even notice if I wasnt sorting and counting beans like a nob.
Are the big ones Gorillas maybe? :pet the cat:
 

Coba

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So, small seeds are bad now? I though D.J. Short says small seeds are good?
 

OneStonedPony

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This thread is starting to be as helpful as a sponge hat in a rain storm. Sam are you going to hook us up with the answer, or leave us in the downpour of speculation and sarcasim ?
 

MicroRoy

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I was joking about thw dwarf thing. They are all good.

Somthing evolved into marajuna. It spread arouns the world. As it was spreading it had to adapt to new Environments. At least some that adapted small seeds with tough shells adapted to dry or other harsh climates. Some may have to wait a few years for the ground to be warm enough. While there was enought moisture.

Others grew where there was just enough moisture when the ground warmed to sprout them. But to get enough moisture to make it through until the rains come they need a bigger seed to get a root down a few inches. Then when the rain come in the form of thunder storms they get a boost of nitrogen and water. They jump start they need to reach up so they can shade out other plants and sink roots even deeper. Cause it might not rain again for aonth or two.

That's the way mother breeds selectivly. If you live you get another chance to contribute to the been pool.

There are other advantages to being bigger or smaller too.

I am not a scientice but I watch the big bang theory.
 

Sam_Skunkman

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My experience has been the seed will be in the first generation what the mother's family has produced traditionally... into further generations however it will segregate as usual because neither big or small is dominant or particularly beneficial.

Correct as far as I know.
-Sams
 

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