Inheritance In Seeds Question

[purple_man]

nice one bro (still wrote its a qualitative trait)

never really bothered about the seed size when it came to breeding/pollen chucking...

quantitative would be something like the "first trials" and the basis of mendels work (color, height, etc. basically the exteriour and biomass yield factors), on the other hand, flavor cannabinoid profiles, fertility (including seed size, non return rate when artificially pollinated, embryo viability, etc...) are multigene linked -> hard to "predict" the outcome no matter the breeding regimen unless using markers etc...

blessss
ps.: my first thought too, sams planning to breed the biggest bird/fishing hempseed of all times??? never would have figured him for an angler (just bustin ya balls dude)

 

[Tonygreen]

thanks for the answer ive been checking daily lol

 

[Tom Hill]

so let's review shall we? Smaller seed last longer,, they are far more in number per individual than their counterpart.. yet some idiot like myself takes the time to produce plants who produce the exact opposite type of seed,, why?

 

[Tom Hill]

,,,and shit why stop at seed lol lets give u less yield and all kind of other crap too? lol

 

[Cannabisso]

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[Tonygreen]

because we are looking for the "abnormal" 1 in 100,000 drug type, not the kind typically expressed in nature, or???

Is the all kind of other crap the drug types we desire?

 

[Tom Hill]

Somebody give that man a whiskey! This shit matters not,, we have no time for it we have no concern for it we have no care for it.. If we do,, then we have taken our eyes off the prize,, in regards to drug strain cannabis. B4 we deal in the aforementioned,, there is and i mean zero room for any of these other concerns.

 

[Tom Hill]

that is plan "A",, talk to me about plan "B" when plan "A" is realized..

 

[iTarzan]

Dear Sam,

Many have lost interest. I no longer care. Tom is angry.

The exact opposite of a great thread!

Tom even with legal weed that people can buy most people will still grow their own from seeds. Seeds will always be important.

 

[Sam_Skunkman]

I will comment tomorrow.
-SamS

 

[Tom Hill]

Dear iTarzan? I am not angry, i am saddened by your ignorance nobody in their right mind grows from seed dear sir.. seed will always be important but the importance is very far from your understanding.

 

[Tonygreen]

Dear Sam,

Many have lost interest. I no longer care. Tom is angry.

The exact opposite of a great thread!

Tom even with legal weed that people can buy most people will still grow their own from seeds. Seeds will always be important.

idk what you are reading, he just dropped the knowledge bro...

 

[HL45]

Sub

 

[iTarzan]

Tony I was talking about Sam. But he said he was coming in today.

Tom I agree angry wasn't the right word. Frustrated would have been better.

What is not to understand Tom? Do you think growing weed is so complicated and hard to understand that only you and others like you are smart enough to understand it? That certainly isn't true.

More people grow from seed then grow from clones. There are a large number of people who are never going to step foot into a dispensary no matter how legal it becomes. Many people who don't smoke do not want Dr. Smith the pot smoker to operate on them. Or lawyer Smith to defend them. Or nurse Smith to take care of them. Or teacher Smith to educate their kids.

Most people who grow weed are not on the internet sites. Internet sales are only about 6% of total seed sales world wide. Why? Because they are too paranoid about even being on the net let alone go somewhere and buy weed or clones.

Seeds will always rule the scene. People love searching them. People love weed they know what went into it.

I have a real problem with somebody who reaped the benefits from selling seeds for decades all the sudden says seeds are no good.

Seeds are great. They are not going away.

 

[pastor]

just like the mom is predetermined by way of genetics and inheritance to produce - regardless of who the pollen donor is..

this means "maternal effect"?

 

[sprinkl]

so let's review shall we? Smaller seed last longer,, they are far more in number per individual than their counterpart.. yet some idiot like myself takes the time to produce plants who produce the exact opposite type of seed,, why?

Bigger seeds contain a bigger seedling. So it should give a headstart over small seeds.

 

[XbX]

The question is vague, meaning which is the mother and which is the father?

If the small seed variety is the mother, which is pollenated by a large seed trait strain male, then seeds of that cross will physically be small...

The potential size of the seeds produced by a female of the seeds produce in the first cross, will have their size determined by a number of factors:

1) Environment - meaning temps, lights, nutes, location of the floral cluster that produced the seed etc

2) The random recombination of genes from the parents

So in practice, the progeny will most likely have seeds of different sizes, with inconsistent mottling.

My own experience is exactly that - for example I've crossed a large seed Blockhead with some small seeded Grapefruit and I observed seeds of various sizes and mottling produced by the femal offspring of that cross.

Sometimes, a single seeded bud would have seeds of different sizes and mottling.

So many variables.

 

[kopite]

Tony I was talking about Sam. But he said he was coming in today.

Tom I agree angry wasn't the right word. Frustrated would have been better.

(1)What is not to understand Tom? Do you think growing weed is so complicated and hard to understand that only you and others like you are smart enough to understand it? That certainly isn't true.

More people grow from seed then grow from clones. There are a large number of people who are never going to step foot into a dispensary no matter how legal it becomes. Many people who don't smoke do not want Dr. Smith the pot smoker to operate on them. Or lawyer Smith to defend them. Or nurse Smith to take care of them. Or teacher Smith to educate their kids.

Most people who grow weed are not on the internet sites. Internet sales are only about 6% of total seed sales world wide. Why? Because they are too paranoid about even being on the net let alone go somewhere and buy weed or clones.

Seeds will always rule the scene. People love searching them. People love weed they know what went into it.

(2)I have a real problem with somebody who reaped the benefits from selling seeds for decades all the sudden says seeds are no good.

Seeds are great. They are not going away.

(1) He is saying and has been saying for some time, that simple fuck wits (like you and I) have more chance of uncovering the holy grail than the likes of himself and others like him. He hasn't exactly been holding those thoughts in either, he is well aware that the finders come from seed, what he seems to have a problem with is how those seeds come to be about....

(2)He isn't saying that at all, he is saying you will have more success with a good proven clone than a load of seed with males in them.... if this was your living what would you turn too? I'd be growing the good clones and and making sure I can pay my bills...

People love Sour Diesel and OG do they not? yet they came from accident(or did they?) just like others!! but then other good clones seem to of come from good breeding... so....

anyway looking forward to finding out more about seed...

 

[Tonygreen]

growing weed and breeding cannabis is two different things with very different maths.

Tidbits of gold in this thread right here.

 

[kopite]

growing weed and breeding cannabis is two different things with very different maths.

Tidbits of gold in this thread right here.

The maths is the same regardless to get those plants to grow....