I also think that because it takes longer it would require more days of rain to achieve this. That would also give the seedling a better chance of survival in the critical early weeks of life because the soil has more moisture in it and will not dry out immediately after the seed starts.
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Inheritance In Seeds Question
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I also think that because it takes longer it would require more days of rain to achieve this. That would also give the seedling a better chance of survival in the critical early weeks of life because the soil has more moisture in it and will not dry out immediately after the seed starts.
soserthc1
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Has anyone mentioned anything to do with pollination window
Would the size of the seed be determined by a earlier pollination time as aposed to a late pollination ?
I pollinate at day 26/28 most indica/ hybrid varieties. Seeds seem to be pretty consistently medium sized dark seed.
I haven't pollinated enough different canna varieties to be sure thou .... Good topic I like learning
Would the size of the seed be determined by a earlier pollination time as aposed to a late pollination ?
I pollinate at day 26/28 most indica/ hybrid varieties. Seeds seem to be pretty consistently medium sized dark seed.
I haven't pollinated enough different canna varieties to be sure thou .... Good topic I like learning
Our experience has been strain dependent....certain strains consistently produce certain size. Hybridizing....we still see roughly same size....but different markings (striped, for instance)
But crossing them (small/large inherent)? That's the question....Hmmmm.
I did a 13 female strains/crosses to one male
Male seed was smaller , all 10 females were cuts
Of well known strains and the 3 seeds were good
Ones also and nice size seeds, there were 2 batches
Of seeds that were small just like the dad and they
Were clones, I have never thought about it and told
Everyone there were like the dad when asked about
Size..
I say Mom has to play a role in it
Male seed was smaller , all 10 females were cuts
Of well known strains and the 3 seeds were good
Ones also and nice size seeds, there were 2 batches
Of seeds that were small just like the dad and they
Were clones, I have never thought about it and told
Everyone there were like the dad when asked about
Size..
I say Mom has to play a role in it
soserthc1
Active member
My last crosses were all with the same male to about 5 different mothers and all seeds were the same size and none were mottled. Which would suggest that male / pollen must be a dominate to determine seed size. Though without seeing those mothers produce seeds with different off spring. I can't confirm that thinking and I'm doubting it is correct
so larger seeds = thinner shells and faster germination
i assumed a larger seed has more surface area to absorb h20 and this could contribute to the speed of germination.
as far as the original question....im just here to learn.
peace
mom and dad, are "big" and "small", and "in-between" is medium. Not sure what "none of the above" represents.
Seed size is directly related to calyx size - a motherly trait. I'll guess - " like the mom".
On the same female, I get small mature seeds from small flowers on lower branches and bigger seeds from flower-tops.
I have a question, do the markings on a seed mean anything? From the 1970's, I remember Mexican seeds were mostly medium size and solid light brown / green. Chimera's Highland Guerrero x Blueberry f2 and in crosses, creates both darker molten seeds and solid light brown seeds. If you're looking for Guerrero genetics, does it make sense to plant mostly the solid light brown/green seeds?
Seed size is directly related to calyx size - a motherly trait. I'll guess - " like the mom".
On the same female, I get small mature seeds from small flowers on lower branches and bigger seeds from flower-tops.
I have a question, do the markings on a seed mean anything? From the 1970's, I remember Mexican seeds were mostly medium size and solid light brown / green. Chimera's Highland Guerrero x Blueberry f2 and in crosses, creates both darker molten seeds and solid light brown seeds. If you're looking for Guerrero genetics, does it make sense to plant mostly the solid light brown/green seeds?
pollinated different branches on above. got small seed from one branch, large from another.
both pollen donors were feminized (S1).
small seeds were striped, large seeds were solidly colored...have yet to utilize either.
K
kopite
I thought they had found that seed size was directly to do with small RNA and was controlled maternally? I don't think the plants want the seed to be too big.....
yes but to paint a broader picture let's also note that they have a thinner,, longer more surface area "crack" too lazy to look up the term lol where water penetrates (certainly not through the center of the shell as well as more energy in store for the task at hand when this in fact happens..
anyway yeah,, small seed stores longer, and takes longer to germinate, by far,, on average, over a fairly vast snapshot of experience. and yeah,, a female individual plant makes one size seed outside of achene development stage there is no other variable there..
high fambz!
depends on the parents used, long flowering "wispy" sativas tend to produce smaller calyxes and seeds in comperison to hybrids (which tend to produce the biggest ones as observed untill now), mostly/pure indicas tend to produce medium sized beans
if i remember right fertility, reproductive traits etc. (especially on the female side) is a qualitative trait -> influenced by 5+ genes
hope i didn't fail the class
blessss
ps.: what's actually the reason for asking this question if i may ask?
depends on the parents used, long flowering "wispy" sativas tend to produce smaller calyxes and seeds in comperison to hybrids (which tend to produce the biggest ones as observed untill now), mostly/pure indicas tend to produce medium sized beans
if i remember right fertility, reproductive traits etc. (especially on the female side) is a qualitative trait -> influenced by 5+ genes
hope i didn't fail the class
blessss
ps.: what's actually the reason for asking this question if i may ask?
