Imported (Moroccan, Afghani, Nepalase) Hash photo's and discussion....

[binaryfission]

just a comment on another misused word, kief.

seems like more people are picking this one up. well at least I'm surprised in my area how many people are really grasping what it is. as opposed to remembering it as some super weed powder someone smoked with them...

mriko ... is cherniak's book worth purchasing?? i've heard mixed reviews.


PEACE

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the correction on the usage of kif. There is a video on youtube of two young arabs preparing a joint with black tobacco and dried buds, and although I don't understand Arabic, they were calling it kif, so I'm sure you're correct. So is the correct term hashish powder?

I've order 500ml of isopropyl alcohol, got all the Jahwi's Joy and Thai plants chopped and dried, the while plants, stems and all chopped fairly fine, plus about 400g of trim from all kinds of things I've grown in recent months that has already been shaken for hashish., so that should be enough to make some really nice oil, although I think I'm gonna need at least a litre of alcohol to get through all the matter I have. I'm gonna do the Jahwi and Thai first to make some pure sativa oil, then I'll blend the Mexican hash powder into it to make some pure sativa jelly hash. I'm going on an excursion for someone's birthday next week, 30 of us are going, so I'll save this oil for then and blow a few minds! lol

 

[Limeygreen]

I would smoke anything Raco smokes any day of the week before many others stash, but then again I like birds

 

[Plutarque]

You're not alone as a matter of fact as loads of people call nonsensically the resin powder "kif". Kif is for the chopped buds, or the mix of black tobacco and chopped buds. Calling the plain sieved resin "kif" is wrongfull in m opinion (Cherniak calls the resin powder "kif" in his Great Book of Hashish vol. 1 book 1 but that's unaccurate actually, as it should be rather called hashish or garda). If everyone calls plain resin powder "kif", who's going to remember it's actually something which is part of a specific culture which probably spawn back to forgotten times, thousands of years before ours !
Names and local appelations are as important and valuable as local genetics, they're parts of this whole great green thing (and more !) that we all love and cherish (if not worship !) so let's do our best to protect and maintain and spread it the best we can!
Irie !

Jah mon, me to ...



But ... Calling the plain sieved resin "hashish" isn't correct also in my opinion >;-)° .... The plain sieved resin becomes hashish from the moment there's also a creation of oil (by heating and/or pressing it) ...
Do I make myself clear this way ?

Anyway, I <3 getting high & to y'all

 

[ojd]

GP
where did you order the isopropyl alcohol

i wouldnt mind trying to make oil with this to see the differece between butane

 

[Guest]

Hiya ojd

it's not hard to find:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=310022599637

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330248676564

http://www.digital-fusion.co.uk/Inu_products/INU_ProdDetailsL9.asp?ref=N7012232

 

[bonecarver_OG]

G P - sounds like u got a fun mission ahead! would be cool with pics!

plutarque - that distinguision is not entirelly apliable - since there is hash that is so dry, that oilyness is not the first thing that pops to ones mind. but generally id agree resin powder/harvested trichomes becomes hashish when in some way compressed - if even so lightly..

but we aint nitt-picking

 

[ojd]

thanks gp

 

[mriko]

that distinguision is not entirelly apliable - since there is hash that is so dry, that oilyness is not the first thing that pops to ones mind. but generally id agree resin powder/harvested trichomes becomes hashish when in some way compressed - if even so lightly..

but we aint nitt-picking

eheh, yes I admit I was wrong in my labelling of loose resin powder as hashish.

As far as I'm concerned it is the ageing which turns the resin powder into hashish. So obvious when I make my own. If I happened to smoke the resin (even pressed one) from only-dry buds (mean uncured), the taste is poor, the high is poor doesn't fit to the hashish appelation in anyway.
It's the same difference than between fermented grape juice and wine. For both smoke and drink ageing brings in the flavours, balance the effect, reveals its identity (a subtle mix of genetics and environement) which makes each "brand" distinguishable from each other.

Irie !

 

[Guest]

Sadly I haven't got a cam at the mo but I will post a report of how it smokes. I've sampled both the Thai and Jahwi's buds and they are both very potent heady highs, the Thai has a lovely vanilla/lemon taste, the Jahwi has a more earthy taste typical of African strains. I'm hoping the oil will have a very strong cerebral effect as it's been a while since I had any really strong heady sativas to smoke.

I've spent all day today constructing LED panels, I've mounted and soldered 358 LEDs so not had time to make the ISO today, but will tomorrow.

 

[British_Bulldog]

Surely resin powder's real name is "skuff" and not "kif" or "hashish", as Hashish is pressed powder imo, and kif is indeed mixed with tobacco and traditionally smoked in Morocco, etc.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

hello all

brittish bulldog - im not really sure if skuff is more than just a coffeshop label for dutch produced hashish - normally coming from "skimmed" buds (passing the buds thru a tumbler before export etc) and i guess its a nice smoke - but not a term u will be very likelly to hear in many places. i only heard this word while i was living in UK.

mriko -
its true aging is an important part of the QUALITY of hashish, but just like in wines, there is wines that should be consumed within the year of produce - like world famous "young wines" that are very popular like, the burcak from czech rebuplic, the french Beaujolais Nouveau, New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc or the spanish varieties of "vino joven".

in my humble opinion i dont think the normal comercial moroccan dry-sieved hashish does improve much at all with aging - rather it looses flavour. but this is mostly because the plants are misstreated in the drying process and allready come with very little aromas. hashish that comes from live plants, or from more fresher plants dried and handled better should have more terpenoids and flavours still in it, so im sure an aging in those cases improves flavour.

i agree 100% about the home made hash, the flavour before cure is mostly like the bud it came from.

i dont drink any alcohol but i happen to live in a wine district hehe

 

[Farmer John]

Kif is what you get from "kiffy plants". Up here kif and skuff mean the same thing, resin that hasnt been pressed, pressed is called hashish...

In these books they call resin kif, and pressed resin from kiffy plants is hashish, thats where I got my info but hell, call it what you want if it melts its good.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

well.... to put things short (and tiny) since i dont feel like starting any discussion;

(for educational purposes only - read only if really interested)

"In Morocco, resin powder is produced using methods historians say have only been used in the country since the early 1960's. Before these methods were introduced, allegedly by Europeans and North Americans, Moroccans did not process cannabis into powder and hashish – they only smoked it as kif."

this means kif was chopped up buds before the "hippie influence" came to morocco, but with the resin still intact..

mean while;

a flower

 

[Tokermon]

Surely resin powder's real name is "skuff" and not "kif" or "hashish", as Hashish is pressed powder imo, and kif is indeed mixed with tobacco and traditionally smoked in Morocco, etc.

i thought kif was just unpressed hash, same as skuff.

 

[British_Bulldog]

Ok cool bonecarver, and no I've not heard it called that outside the UK or the Netherlands.

Well Tokermon, I thought it'd been established above that "kif" is resin powder mixed with black tobacco, and traditionally smoked in Morocco.


....and ok that's it, I've decided I'm just calling it resin powder from now on...seems like the most appropriate generic name, LoL

 

[bonecarver_OG]

british bulldog - not really resin powder - it was not pure - it was not SIEVED for example. kif before the western influence was buds, finelly cleaned and then chopped up and smoked in the sebsi pipe with black tobacco - just like a big part of the moroccan populations stil do.

the sieving is something some westerners tought the moroccans. maybe those westerners learnt it in turn in asia - i vaugly remember about reading something about that ages ago.. but really i dont know much about asian hash technics at all.

in morocco - if u ask for kif u get a small bag of not too strong weed chopped up with black tobacco. its only really interesting as a curiosity for a hash smoker to try. it didnt get me high - only just in one occasion when i had not smoked hash for a few days at all.

 

[binaryfission]

now for the final answer.

called hashish when pressed, coming from the arabic hassassins, this commodity is known as skuff in some parts of europe and more widely as kief. not to be confused with moroccan kif, a mixture of tobacco and the tops of flowering marijuana plants.


alec, what is resin powder?

 

[bonecarver_OG]

haha wonderfull im gonna smoke a fat spliff for that

 

[Guest]

skuff is a derogatory term for crap hash, or at least it was in the circles I moved in.

Hashish manufacture in Morocco does indeed date from the 1960s, the influence came from the Lebanon. According to the tales told in the rif, a Moroccan went to the Lebanon to study and returned home with the knowledge to make hashish. The Lebanon has only been a hash producing centre since the mid 1930s as production moved there from Greece. Until 1932 hashish production was legal in Greece and it was Greek farmers who supplied most of the hashish smuggled around the mediterranean at the time. Egypt was a major market and it was mostly smuggled from Greece or along camel routes from the middle east.

BTW, the QWISO making went well, got 2.2g of oil which I mixed with kif to make jelly hash (oil is such a PITA to handle) and it's very strong stuff, but not a patch on the Trainwreck/Chemdawg/Sour Diesel batch I made back in February, that stuff was lethal, this batch is merely hazardous, but very nice still.