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HOW MANY CHILDREN NEED TO DIE BEFORE GUN LAWS CHANGE IN THE USA

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JKD

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nope. you simply don't/won't/can't understand why insurance is a good idea. twist it all you want, that's what you are doing. i'm not personally so much concerned with the federal govt as i am overreach by local govt/LEO/criminals. THEY don't have tanks etc and are much more likely to be standing on my porch screaming ... "when seconds make the difference between life and death, the local police are only ten minutes away"

I'm actually highlighting dissonance in your own arguments. I haven't twisted anything.
I suppose you can pull a gun on local government/LEO. That's bound to go well.
 

JKD

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nope, no dissonance. i've been consistent as hell.

You have been consistent. But you've been using an argument of contrary positions.
"I need firearms to protect against a government who I don't believe would use them against me"
In a nutshell.
 

armedoldhippy

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You have been consistent. But you've been using an argument of contrary positions.
"I need firearms to protect against a government who I don't believe would use them against me"
In a nutshell.
still intentionally misconstruing my words, i see. you KEEP the firearms so they WON'T try. and no, i don't think American troops would attack the American people. but the troops are not the govt, are they? some dimwit like DeSantis might con the Fla. National guard into doing something stupid. you conflate the two as if they were a monobloc of like-minded creatures, a hive mentality. they are as individual as us on here. well, maybe not their haircuts...
 

Hammerhead

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at least you admit that it is a "right", unlike driving, which is a "privilege" and kills more people than gunfire...

It's an outdated right given when none had a clue how deadly weapons would end up being. Its long been overdue to update the constitution. Things change that have a massive impact on society.. What was once good has become bad.
 

JKD

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you've shown no signs of rationality since you got here. try again, but with sincerity in your voice, Linus. if you're not sincere, the Great Pumpkin won't swoop down and haul off all of those evil guns you are so frightened by...

I owned firearms for most of my life. Mine were for hunting, not defence against dictatorship. When I stopped hunting, I sold my rifles. I am not in favour of banning all firearms in all situations - I've not even suggested banning firearms in any situation. You're conflating my arguments with something else. I think if you re-read everything I've written in this thread you might continue to find things you don't agree with, but you won't find any hypocrisy or irrationality.
 
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awwc

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Me as a non-us Euro: 🍿🍿🍿

Yeah trump was right, USD is going to fall in the next 100 years almost certainly, Euro, RMB will be the new reserves lol.

US seems pretty doomed when one takes a look at discussions like this. I'll prolly get attacked for this lol.

Oh yeah and not to forget the mother of the Colony, GBP prolly also doomed
 

Hammerhead

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There's no need to insult people that don't have the same opinions. It's why I closed my Trump thread. Thiers no need for it. People have become so fragile that just another opinion makes them upset.
Me as a non-us Euro: 🍿🍿🍿

Yeah trump was right, USD is going to fall in the next 100 years almost certainly, Euro, RMB will be the new reserves lol.

US seems pretty doomed when one takes a look at discussions like this. I'll prolly get attacked for this lol.

Oh yeah and not to forget the mother of the Colony, GBP prolly also doomed


I don't disagree with you on parts. Trumps is hardly the person to quote as right lol. . Many don't think People's lives are worth saving. Playing with a specific gun is vastly more important. I'll be long dead when/if it happens. Those in power want the public divided/fighting.
 
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Capt.Ahab

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Hardly anyone is going to give up anything.
The cat is out of the bag.
100 MILLION gun owners (that they know about).
400 + MILLION guns.
Over 20 MILLION AR15' s
150 MILLION AR mags.
Close to TEN BILLION rounds of ammo.
If just 1 % resist, How long can the public stomach the deaths resulting from resistance to confiscation ?
 
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