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HOW MANY CHILDREN NEED TO DIE BEFORE GUN LAWS CHANGE IN THE USA

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Hammerhead

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The GOV is not who is going into schools, clubs, and Walmart killing children/people. However much we hate our GOV it's the people that have gone nuts. You have become radicalized once you believe the GOV is gonna kill you. None of us need weapons of war that can kill 25 people in 60 sec. You will have a happy/prosperous life without them. You will not be defenseless with 1 less option in your arsenal. All you do with them is shoot targets or kill people. It won't be the gov you end up killing. Some think someday you might need them to fight an unwinnable war against our gov lol..
 

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None of us need weapons of war that can kill 25 people in 60 sec.
you badly underestimate people AND guns. i could do a LOT more damage than that with a good pump shotgun in a crowded bar. still focusing on a tool, i see. no surprise, everyone wants to take the (seemingly) easy way out and "do something!" that won't accomplish what they want done. after ridding the world of the obviously "scary/evil" AR-15, they'll be back within weeks with ANOTHER "reasonable" restriction that won't fucking work either...👎
 

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fight an unwinnable war against our gov lol..
still pretending that our military would be involved, lol. tell me, with your attitude, haven't you already conceded defeat? how "winnable" is ANY war if you willingly give your enemy the tools you would need to fight back? if we all thought like you, we would still be a fucking colony...:pointlaug
"you will miss 100 percent of the shots that you don't take." - Wayne Gretzky
 

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the government wouldn’t actually behave like a dictatorship
like The Chump wouldn't drag us in that direction as fast as his stubby little legs could scurry, lol. they "haven't yet" gone down that road. us having firearms is what gives those laws teeth and makes it less likely for the govt to overreach. you keep firearms in case of the worst scenario, not give them up hoping for a miracle that aint gonna happen. "freedom, once surrendered, is nearly impossible to claw back."
 

entropical

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The public has a false sense of thinking any guns we have would defeat our GOV. It would not be possible to do that in the 21st century.




Rubbish. You do not need an AR to protect people.. A shotgun/pistol for closed range and a sniper rifle for long range. I don't need anything else. If AR platforms were not available we would not see the same death toll on our children/people when mass shootings happen. You have been brainwashed thinking you can't live without them
Actually the AR is not common here. It is more common with AK47, Škorpion, grenades and so on. I would question your right to a sniper rifle on the same grounds though, you don’t need a sniper rifle to protect people. A small caliber pistol should be enough.

As for defeating your government well, it is being defeated by other state actors as we speak. True though that the AR is no match against tanks and artillery, it goes without saying if you ask me.
 

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How is it that you know the intentions of those that are for gun control laws?
their intentions are irrelevant. it is the end result that matters. "why" certain groups of people might want gun control matters not one iota to me, none, looking at what the end result is going to be. those with evil intent rejoice when well-meaning fools join the parade.
 

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"people themselves do not originally have convictions. Opinion is molded through media owned by capital interests."

How on earth did people have convictions (or even opinions!) before 'media owned capital interests' came along?

"As for gun control laws those are not intended to stop mass shootings but to control people in a way as to render them defenceless. They will then look to the state as their saviour."

How is it that you know the intentions of those that are for gun control laws? Is it possible that SOME people are for gun laws because they lost a loved one in a mass shooting? Or impossible?
While individuals can and do have opinions diverging from those of the masses, they are few and far in between. If you want an example of what it was like before mass media then, there was the Church (and people like Galileo Galilei). So individuals can and do have original convictions, but not the broad masses of people.

As for ”the intentions of those who are for gun control laws”, I was not speaking of them but of those who write the laws. Of course it is possible but the state however has its own interests. For state and its capitalist owners the people do not matter in the least.
 

zachrockbadenof

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like The Chump wouldn't drag us in that direction as fast as his stubby little legs could scurry, lol. they "haven't yet" gone down that road. us having firearms is what gives those laws teeth and makes it less likely for the govt to overreach. you keep firearms in case of the worst scenario, not give them up hoping for a miracle that aint gonna happen. "freedom, once surrendered, is nearly impossible to claw back."
jesus... fukin trump is yesterday's fukin news - he shot his load, he is toast...lets concentrate on the future...
 

Hammerhead

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Actually the AR is not common here. It is more common with AK47, Škorpion, grenades and so on. I would question your right to a sniper rifle on the same grounds though, you don’t need a sniper rifle to protect people. A small caliber pistol should be enough.

As for defeating your government well, it is being defeated by other state actors as we speak. True though that the AR is no match against tanks and artillery, it goes without saying if you ask me.

Any bolt action rifle can be a sniper rifle with a high-power scope added. 100% LEGAL IN EVERY STATE..
 
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Hammerhead

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still pretending that our military would be involved, lol. tell me, with your attitude, haven't you already conceded defeat? how "winnable" is ANY war if you willingly give your enemy the tools you would need to fight back? if we all thought like you, we would still be a fucking colony...:pointlaug
"you will miss 100 percent of the shots that you don't take." - Wayne Gretzky

Its not I that thinks this .. Why do you think people attacked the capital lol. They think our military would. Most rightards believe this. Having an AR is a poor tool.. As I said Shotgun , .45, and my bolt action with a good scope attached all day over any AR. Theres nothing else I need to defend against the nuts that want a coup.
 

audiohi

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fuk black on black crime.... their lives are worthless... where are the head hocho's of BLM??? ohhh... out buying million $$$ houses...

A white person leading the charge to throw black people out of government out here commmitting crimes, buying houses, and stealing from the taxpayers?

huh.

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entropical

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Any bolt action rifle can be a sniper rifle with a high-power scope added.
That is true to some extent, and while such rifles are great for hunting what sort of threat could someone who is between say 200 meters and 2000 meters away pose against you?
 

Hammerhead

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That is true to some extent, and while such rifles are great for hunting what sort of threat could someone who is between say 200 meters and 2000 meters away pose against you?

There are enough of us that have the talent to pick off from a very long range. I would have great success in that range and beyond.. You better believe others will as well. Those that don't will surely try and get lucky enough to matter. Especially if you have a buddy to be your spotter.

My gen grew up learning these skills from our parents who fought in WWII/Vietnam. If you have/had someone close that fought in a war you would know to do anything possible to prevent another. The public really has no idea of the carnage. Anyone wanting one has never fought in one.
 
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like The Chump wouldn't drag us in that direction as fast as his stubby little legs could scurry, lol. they "haven't yet" gone down that road. us having firearms is what gives those laws teeth and makes it less likely for the govt to overreach. you keep firearms in case of the worst scenario, not give them up hoping for a miracle that aint gonna happen. "freedom, once surrendered, is nearly impossible to claw back."
What if the gubmnt were to severly restrict ammunition but let folks keep their 'arms', would that ever become a legal possibility? :whistling:
 
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