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Siku

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Welcome to ICMag @Siku :giggle: and thanks for choosing ACE genetics!

What's your growing media and ph? It looks like there may be typical ph out of range and/or macro nutrient deficiencies. How many days has she been in flowering? What photoperiod cycles did you use?
Hi @dubi!
Thank you for your answer and the welcome! This plant is amazing and tough and i am a little bit sad, that she is suffering! I can not say for sure how long she is in flower, as i am running her at 11/13 from start. (last week in march) But i think she is in week 4 or 5?
I am growing on soil plagron light mix in 9 l pot! Yes, ph was out of range! I checked ph and it was at 5 to 5.2 in drain. Too much salt due to overfeeding, i think! 😬 I corrected the ph by flushing to 6.2 to 6.4. But its getting worse, she is loosing a lot of leaves now! The ec from last watering was 0.8 to 1 ( tap water is ec 0.5) and i am not sure wether i should feed her with higher ec or not! I was also thinking to start a new grow! But i now decided to wait another 2 or 3 weeks!
Do you think i could try to transplant her to new media as a last option?
 

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dubi

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Our genetics have been tested in many conditions, including under many type of stresses.

I'm sorry you took my bad joke the wrong way, it was not my intention. If you are serious about conducting stress testing, you need to control all variables and play with the one you want to learn from. You won't gain insights if the environment is not controlled and multiple stresses are present simultaneously.
 

Sensistar42

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Our genetics have been tested in many conditions, including under many type of stresses.

I'm sorry you took my bad joke the wrong way. If you are serious about conducting stress testing, you need to control all variables except the one you want to learn from. You won't gain insights if the environment is not controlled and multiple stresses are present simultaneously.
I must say the honduras handles cold weather better. Especially my purple Mexican. I had no vigor issues and finished great in colder weather. 68-72 thermostat the heater was set at.

Compared to the Ethiopian ones that were much more sensitive in the cooler nights during the spring when I did not have the heater going.
 

goingrey

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Our genetics have been tested in many conditions, including under many type of stresses.

I'm sorry you took my bad joke the wrong way, it was not my intention. If you are serious about conducting stress testing, you need to control all variables and play with the one you want to learn from. You won't gain insights if the environment is not controlled and multiple stresses are present simultaneously.
Well it's more a question of strain selection for a certain kind of stress based on the catalogue descriptions than "serious" stress testing (or cult torture). So that "controlling the variables" could be avoided (more importantly the electricity use associated with that control).

Like last summer I chose Beldia because of the claimed drought resistance as I knew it would be hot and I would have to be away from the grow for longer than is good. Well, they made it to the end but were tortured for sure, ok result overall but the expectation was way higher.

This winter I tried Erdpurt and Nepal Mist because of the claimed cold resistance. Erdpurt did poorly, but just one plant. Three out of four Nepal Mist girls did very well, in fact my issue was light stress from growth so vigorous it kept hitting the lamp, despite daily training. One of the four girls did poorly. Pretty good success on the Nepal Mist at least cold resistance wise.

And now I'm growing Honduras on the side of my main grow, both figuratively and literally, because of the "huge vigor" but that has not been my experience so far. The males did a bit better, as is usual, but nothing impressive. They had the benefit of getting a couple weeks of veg though. One of the three males put out pistils towards the end, fortunately the other two still had some spunk in them as what I had harvested so far had to be rejected.

The next set aren't doing so great. Well, they still have time. But this is just funny. EC and pH? Probably the EC is below the range of my EC meter, only goes down to 0.4. pH going in was a little bit below 6. Who knows what it is now, they don't drink much so there is quite some time between waterings.

Not expecting a huge yield from literally the light that misses my hydro setup but would be nice to get something, get to try that mexibrick type weed.
 

Sensistar42

Well-known member
Well it's more a question of strain selection for a certain kind of stress based on the catalogue descriptions than "serious" stress testing (or cult torture). So that "controlling the variables" could be avoided (more importantly the electricity use associated with that control).

Like last summer I chose Beldia because of the claimed drought resistance as I knew it would be hot and I would have to be away from the grow for longer than is good. Well, they made it to the end but were tortured for sure, ok result overall but the expectation was way higher.

This winter I tried Erdpurt and Nepal Mist because of the claimed cold resistance. Erdpurt did poorly, but just one plant. Three out of four Nepal Mist girls did very well, in fact my issue was light stress from growth so vigorous it kept hitting the lamp, despite daily training. One of the four girls did poorly. Pretty good success on the Nepal Mist at least cold resistance wise.

And now I'm growing Honduras on the side of my main grow, both figuratively and literally, because of the "huge vigor" but that has not been my experience so far. The males did a bit better, as is usual, but nothing impressive. They had the benefit of getting a couple weeks of veg though. One of the three males put out pistils towards the end, fortunately the other two still had some spunk in them as what I had harvested so far had to be rejected.

The next set aren't doing so great. Well, they still have time. But this is just funny. EC and pH? Probably the EC is below the range of my EC meter, only goes down to 0.4. pH going in was a little bit below 6. Who knows what it is now, they don't drink much so there is quite some time between waterings.

Not expecting a huge yield from literally the light that misses my hydro setup but would be nice to get something, get to try that mexibrick type weed.
These tropicals are very touchy to ph and temperatures. Right now I’ve been keeping mine at 6.5ish . Refrain from any bloom boosters and a general very light feedings. My advice so far with this strain. Not that it’s a bunch of help, but my 2 cents. 🤣
 

goingrey

Well-known member
These tropicals are very touchy to ph and temperatures. Right now I’ve been keeping mine at 6.5ish . Refrain from any bloom boosters and a general very light feedings. My advice so far with this strain. Not that it’s a bunch of help, but my 2 cents. 🤣
Temperature is high atm like 30-32 Celsius.

Humidity isn't quite tropical. For the males it actually was, but had to start using a dehuey so the buds from other strains don't rot...
 

Sensistar42

Well-known member
Temperature is high atm like 30-32 Celsius.

Humidity isn't quite tropical. For the males it actually was, but had to start using a dehuey so the buds from other strains don't rot...
That’s the hard part for me to, I’ve been more in the mindset that I should have separate tents for regular hybrids and one for longer sativas. I also run 10/14 for them as well and takes a bit away from the regular hybrids for sure. But you do get the see better/different expressions in them though as well.
 

PapaThai

New member
Hi there,
I just read almost through the whole thread and I'm glad I have some Ace Honduras beans in the fridge already.
Next year I'm planing to find a vigorous male to (pls don't kill me :D) pollinate some autoflower with it, probably a Wild Thailand Ryder and/or Siberian Ruderalis (and of course any Honduras female for conservation of the original genetics). Then grow some F2 seeds and pollinate the best autoflowering female from the F2 with a Honduras male again and repeat these steps for a couple of years to get an autoflower strain that is at least 90% Honduras.

My question is: When can I expect to see pollen if I veg a Honduras for 1 week and then flower it under 11/13? (for proper timing).

Any further advice for this project is highly appreciated. What could I expect from the final automized Honduras?
And is Ace Seeds going to release new Autoflower strains in future?

PapaThai
 
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Sensistar42

Well-known member
Hi there,
I just read almost through the whole thread and I'm glad I have some Ace Honduras beans in the fridge already.
Next year I'm planing to find a vigorous male to (pls don't kill me :D) pollinate some autoflower with it, probably a Wild Thailand Ryder and/or Siberian Ruderalis (and of course any Honduras female for conservation of the original genetics). Then grow some F2 seeds and pollinate the best autoflowering female from the F2 with a Honduras male again and repeat these steps for a couple of years to get an autoflower strain that is at least 90% Honduras.

My question is: When can I expect to see pollen if I veg a Honduras for 1 week and then flower it under 11/13? (for proper timing).

Any further advice for this project is highly appreciated. What could I expect from the final automized Honduras?
And is Ace Seeds going to release new Autoflower strains in future?

PapaThai
For me after putting in 8 or so honduras and flipping them on 10/14. It took about 4 weeks or so to show sex for me.
 

FaithfulFlower

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Hey guys

At the beginning of spring a seed of the feminized Honduras x A5 Haze (R+D) went into the ground. It's my first post and I'm leaving the pictures here in this thread. She is currently in her 13th week of flowering and will be harvested at the end of the week.

I can speak little from experience as it is my 2nd indoor and my first sativa hybrid grow.

She has forgiven me many mistakes and despite the wrong PH value of my self-mixed soil at the beginning, underfed at the beginning of the flowering phase, then overfed with N to correct it, she developed super at the end.
Due to the poor growth at the beginning until the 3rd week of flowering, was the stretch until full flowering very minimal. There was a 2nd reflowering because of all the nitrogen, but thanks to that it was possible to make a cutting from a tip. It was under 11.30h for the first weeks and under 10/14 for the last 2 weeks and is now fully mature. Currently almost all trichomes are milky or still a little clear.

I have crossed it with an early outdoor Nepali hybrid to test the offspring next year on the 54°.

After curing I will do a smoke report.

best regards
 

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PapaThai

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Hey guys

At the beginning of spring a seed of the feminized Honduras x A5 Haze (R+D) went into the ground. It's my first post and I'm leaving the pictures here in this thread. She is currently in her 13th week of flowering and will be harvested at the end of the week.

I can speak little from experience as it is my 2nd indoor and my first sativa hybrid grow.

She has forgiven me many mistakes and despite the wrong PH value of my self-mixed soil at the beginning, underfed at the beginning of the flowering phase, then overfed with N to correct it, she developed super at the end.
Due to the poor growth at the beginning until the 3rd week of flowering, was the stretch until full flowering very minimal. There was a 2nd reflowering because of all the nitrogen, but thanks to that it was possible to make a cutting from a tip. It was under 11.30h for the first weeks and under 10/14 for the last 2 weeks and is now fully mature. Currently almost all trichomes are milky or still a little clear.

I have crossed it with an early outdoor Nepali hybrid to test the offspring next year on the 54°.

After curing I will do a smoke report.

best regards

Keep an eye on humidity. Plants that where overfed once have a tendency for budrot. And maybe try to remove dead leaves from the buds to help prevent rot.

Good luck with your harvest. I'm looking forward to read your smoke report. Can't wait to germinate mine... next year...
 

Podenco

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Lovely plants Faithfullflower, real narrow leaf drug types. Waiting for your smoke report too, but there is no hurry.

P
 

dubi

ACE Seeds Breeder
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Welcome to ICMag @FaithfulFlower :) and thanks for supporting our work.

Guess it was a challenging cycle running a long flowering sativas like Honduras A5 Haze for your first sativa run. Glad you managed to harvest something decent despite all the issues, i'm sure you learnt a lot through the process.

She looked like our Green Honduras Haze limited edition, but with thicker flowers thanks to NL5.
How would you describe her terpenes during second half of flowering ?
Please, keep us updated also with a smoke report when you feel the is the right moment.
 
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