Holy grail Mr Nice.

[mexcurandero420]

Just add extra rock dust to your soil and PM will be less.

HzC was the Thai side of Haze and HzA to the Colombian.
Old Neville's Haze has that incense aroma in it and still you can detect that in Super Silver Haze or Amnesia (hypro cut), so what kind of aromas has the MNS Holy Grail?

 

[mexcurandero420]

Oh btw don't use any commercial pesticide or fungicide on your plants which is meant for smoking.You never know what is created after pyrolysis.The chemical companies don't do any safety tests for that.

 

[@hempy]

HzC was the Thai side of Haze and HzA to the Colombian.

Other way around Mex

 

[Hammerhead]

Oh btw don't use any commercial pesticide or fungicide on your plants which is meant for smoking.You never know what is created after pyrolysis.The chemical companies don't do any safety tests for that.

I have zero issues with using Growsafe to smoke. I've been using it for almost 8 years now. Id rather smoke this than mold or insects. Mold is far more unhealthy to smoke IMO. I don't know anyone who doesn't use something as part of their IPM.

AgroMagen’s flagship product, GrowSafe™, is a non-toxic bio-pesticide, yet superior to traditional chemical pesticides.

GrowSafe™ is the fruition of a 2-year study that demonstrated the effectiveness of pest control against a wide variety of pests and diseases, including: spider-mites, aphids, whiteflies and powdery mildew.

Extensive field work with the Agriculture Division focused on a commercial agribusiness product. Ongoing successful R&D since 2015 is devoted to the emerging medical cannabis industry.

Since 2010, 300+ successful field trials were conducted covering 23,000 acres of green and net houses treated with GrowSafe™.

In several countries, our product is licensed by the Plant Protection and Inspection Services for both conventional and organic cultivation.

 

[zachrockbadenof]

has anyone used 'greencure' recently?? - i have 2 half filled jars of it - seems its not sold any longer... i used it a few years ago on some outdoor weed, and it worked - it contains potassium bicarbonate...

 

[Hammerhead]

Potassium bicarbonate is a good example of what not to use on cannabis when smoked. Heating above 100°C (212°F) may produce dangerous levels of carbon dioxide gas. We smoke at 180°C and 210 °C. General health and safety measures: The usual precautionary measures are to be adhered to when handling chemicals. When using do not eat, drink, smoke, sniff. Wash hands before breaks and after work. Avoid contact with skin, eyes and clothes. Take off immediately all contaminated clothing. Do not breathe dust. Always research a product before you use it. I would find a better product..

 

[GrandpaMillenial]

edit: wrong thread

 

[SUPER_HAZE]

I have these seeds but haven't tried them yet.

 

[willydread]

Throw it all away and buy serious haze seeds of a certain level, not those cheap junk ...

(Ps of course I'm kidding, plant them and see how they grow, nl5haze '90 looks interesting from the few photos I've seen)

I have these seeds but haven't tried them yet.

 

[Hammerhead]

In search of my holy grail.. 100% germ rate on these. All have been sowed.

 

[lemonade]

Potassium bicarbonate is a good example of what not to use on cannabis when smoked. Heating above 100°C (212°F) may produce dangerous levels of carbon dioxide gas. We smoke at 180°C and 210 °C. General health and safety measures: The usual precautionary measures are to be adhered to when handling chemicals. When using do not eat, drink, smoke, sniff. Wash hands before breaks and after work. Avoid contact with skin, eyes and clothes. Take off immediately all contaminated clothing. Do not breathe dust. Always research a product before you use it. I would find a better product..

In terms of toxicity, potassium bicarbonate is as (non) toxic as sodium bicarbonate; aka baking soda.

We expect bicarbs to put off CO2. Thats why it works in baking!

Regarding “dangerous levels of carbon dioxide”. When combusting/smoking any organic material carbon dioxide (CO2, same as when you exhale) should be the least of your concerns.

Regarding the GrowSafe product, i haven't used it specifically however ive used other products that contain the same active compounds. It’s definitely somewhat effective IMO. I guess what bothers me is claims of it being safe to use up till harvest. You're basically spraying oil all over the plants. Yuck! I personally don’t wanna smoke oil. When hydrocarbons are burnt CO2 as a byproduct would be the least of concerns! In terms of combusting things, CO2 is just about the safest thing you could hope for. And for the record i don't personally use either bicarb or oils for IPM.

Now, back to Haze puhleaaase

 

[Hammerhead]

In terms of toxicity, potassium bicarbonate is as (non) toxic as sodium bicarbonate; aka baking soda.

We expect bicarbs to put off CO2. Thats why it works is baking!

Regarding “dangerous levels of carbon dioxide”. When combusting/smoking any organic material carbon dioxide (CO2, same as when you exhale) should be the least of your concerns.

Regarding the GrowSafe product, i haven't used it specifically however ive used other products that contain the same active ingredient. It’s definitely somewhat effective IMO. I guess what bothers me is claims of it being safe to use up till harvest. Yuck! I personally don’t wanna smoke oil. I can assure you when hydrocarbons are burnt CO2 as a byproduct should be the least of concerns!

Now, back to Haze puhleaaase

I responded with the info. You guys can choose what to use and not to use like we should. MSDS states to not smoke potassium bicarbonate. Growsafe works 100% for me or I wouldn't use it or recommend it. It is not snake oil. MSDS doesn't say not to smoke it. As I posted research any product before you use it. I choice not to smoke Potassium bicarbonate. I'm not concerned about smoking Growsafe oils, it's undetectable to anyone that tried my flowers including me. It has no aroma. As I also posted I don't know anyone that doesn't use something as part of their IPM. This includes every cannabis brand in every legal state. Ive noticed People have become paranoid, for no reason. If anyone doesn't want to smoke what everyone uses, grow your own..

 

[lemonade]

I responded with the info. You guys can choose what to use and not to use like we should. MSDS states to not smoke it. Growsafe works 100% for me or I wouldn't use it. MSDS doesn't say not to smoke it. As I posted research any product before you use it. I choice not to smoke Potassium bicarbonate. Im not concered about Growsafe oils.

When using do not eat, drink, smoke, sniff.

Lolol @Hammerhead. The MSDS is saying not to smoke when handling the product. As in “don’t eat, drink while handling, dont’t smoke, rub it in your bodily orifices, snort it etc”. That kinda thing

Not like, don't smoke this product.

Btw potassium bicarbonate is actually safe to eat. But it has to be food grade of course. Nuances.

 

[F2F]

No experience with this yet, but @xet recommended gypsum to deter PM.

post on Bush weed thread

Peace,
F2F

 

[Hammerhead]

Lolol @Hammerhead. The MSDS is saying not to smoke when handling the product. As in “don’t eat, drink, rub it in your bodily orifices, snort it etc”. That kinda thing

Not like, don't smoke this product.

'll just disagree so the thread won't become screwd and we can move on. It says what it says. I read it to not smoke it that's what it says. Your conclusion makes no sense to me. IMO it's prob included as they know people use it on smokable cannabis.

People do stupid shit every day. Just like the dumbass chick that used gorilla glue on her hair. Would someone smoke potassium bicarbonate probably.

 

[F2F]

I cut my teeth on MNS SSH & MH. Solid seeds if I do say, from ~2017. No idea on the grail or the male plant in question. Funky has the right attitude. nice plant BTW!

Peace
F2F

with enough love and patience you will find your own personal Haze C

 

[lemonade]

I can assure you MSDS do not list whether a chemical is “smokable” or not.

Just trying to correct misinformation at this point. Back to the Haze!!!

Maybe?

 

[Hammerhead]

Ok, if you say so it must be true.

 

[lemonade]

Or you could take two seconds to look up literally any chemical in MSDS and search for a “smokable” () field. There isn't one..

Instead you continue to clutter the thread with nonsense. Of well. I was just trying to clear up misinformation. Wasn’t expecting your defensive attitude honestly

 

[Hammerhead]

Its there in Black and white. Your interpretation is not mine. People need to learn how to agree to disagree and leave it at that. I all see is the kids wanting to argue about the sky color. It gets old.