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Holy grail Mr Nice.

Wallynoland

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Curious, what happened to Nevils seeds after his death? Any plans to go forward?
Hi Chi13,
Things are progressing and thats a positive outcome after many years of Trails and tribulation from the other camp of scum.
The original work is apparently too valuable as exclusive breeding stock to those that have it to share in Nev's original form.
Instead, it seems THE RABBLE have to be satisfied with hybrid outcrosses that other people make for the market. Poly hybrids. Like what they are doing with "Outback Haze."
Might be some fire phenos in what other people do with it, but it's not really Nev's work anymore once it's outcrossed like that is it?

Sad that the original stuff is hoarded that way $$$.
Hard to believe that is what Nev would have wanted, but I wasn't his best buddy.
Just exchanged a few PM's with him back in the day at MNS.
Yeah Raho,
What Nevil wanted has been swindled away buy Greed and inexperiance of Family and the hanger on Fluffers, the Devils in the detail but I have signed a gag order so enough said.
Dj9 and his band of fools can only produce Poly's as they Don't have the Good's. Sure he has a few lines but thats all. If you want an Outback Haze x Vietman Hermi then be my guest.
The Outback haze was breed as an end product. It will be reproduced from the original genetic lines at a later date.
Im not into $$$$ Just love good Weed.
I have a few people who are helping out in keeping Nevil's and Kanga's Lines/work moving forward and to a set of plans that we i.e Nevil and I had been working on for many years.
The people who helped Nevil out and who received seeds from him are welcome to contact me.
Nevil had big plans and I know what his goals were and that will happen.
The strain called Kununurra Sunshine is the real deal and can be accessed though "Oldskoolhash" on Insta
Ojd @Connoisseur Genetics is also a reputable source.
I have no plans to exploit my position I am happy for the genetics to be available to all for free if that what needs to be.
That's all from me atm Peace & Love the Weed: Wallynoland, aka Bushpig.

Pic is a Pure Mullumbimby Madness seed plant.
 

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Hi Chi13,

Things are progressing and thats a positive outcome after many years of Trails and tribulation from the other camp of scum.



Yeah Raho,

What Nevil wanted has been swindled away buy Greed and inexperiance of Family and the hanger on Fluffers, the Devils in the detail but I have signed a gag order so enough said.

Dj9 and his band of fools can only produce Poly's as they Don't have the Good's. Sure he has a few lines but thats all. If you want an Outback Haze x Vietman Hermi then be my guest.

The Outback haze was breed as an end product. It will be reproduced from the original genetic lines at a later date.

Im not into $$$$ Just love good Weed.

I have a few people who are helping out in keeping Nevil's and Kanga's Lines/work moving forward and to a set of plans that we i.e Nevil and I had been working on for many years.

The people who helped Nevil out and who received seeds from him are welcome to contact me.

Nevil had big plans and I know what his goals were and that will happen.

The strain called Kununurra Sunshine is the real deal and can be accessed though "Oldskoolhash" on Insta

Ojd @Connoisseur Genetics is also a reputable source.

I have no plans to exploit my position I am happy for the genetics to be available to all for free if that what needs to be.

That's all from me atm Peace & Love the Weed: Wallynoland, aka Bushpig.



Pic is a Pure Mullumbimby Madness seed plant.
Im honoured to work with some of Nevils last genetics and thank you for safeguarding the rest of Nevils grail project.

The Swiss Thai Nevil made by Nevil himself has turned out amazing and 1 of the best ive tried . I cant wait to run the Original Kununurra Sunshine in the new years which also has the Swiss Thai in i believe , and it was made by Nevil himself , the last ever pure strain made by Nevil , anyone wants info on where to grab them email me for info.

Grab a pack of Kununurra Sunshine and run a log on icmag.com and il send you a FREE pack of your choice from my Nevil Fem or Reg projects once completed
 

flower~power

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Im honoured to work with some of Nevils last genetics and thank you for safeguarding the rest of Nevils grail project.

The Swiss Thai Nevil made by Nevil himself has turned out amazing and 1 of the best ive tried . I cant wait to run the Original Kununurra Sunshine in the new years which also has the Swiss Thai in i believe , and it was made by Nevil himself , the last ever pure strain made by Nevil , anyone wants info on where to grab them email me for info.

Grab a pack of Kununurra Sunshine and run a log on icmag.com and il send you a FREE pack of your choice from my Nevil Fem or Reg projects once completed
You got my address :sasmokin:
 

Raho

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Hi Chi13,
Things are progressing and thats a positive outcome after many years of Trails and tribulation from the other camp of scum.

Yeah Raho,
What Nevil wanted has been swindled away buy Greed and inexperiance of Family and the hanger on Fluffers, the Devils in the detail but I have signed a gag order so enough said.
Dj9 and his band of fools can only produce Poly's as they Don't have the Good's. Sure he has a few lines but thats all. If you want an Outback Haze x Vietman Hermi then be my guest.
The Outback haze was breed as an end product. It will be reproduced from the original genetic lines at a later date.
Im not into $$$$ Just love good Weed.
I have a few people who are helping out in keeping Nevil's and Kanga's Lines/work moving forward and to a set of plans that we i.e Nevil and I had been working on for many years.
The people who helped Nevil out and who received seeds from him are welcome to contact me.
Nevil had big plans and I know what his goals were and that will happen.
The strain called Kununurra Sunshine is the real deal and can be accessed though "Oldskoolhash" on Insta
Ojd @Connoisseur Genetics is also a reputable source.
I have no plans to exploit my position I am happy for the genetics to be available to all for free if that what needs to be.
That's all from me atm Peace & Love the Weed: Wallynoland, aka Bushpig.

Pic is a Pure Mullumbimby Madness seed plant.
Thanks for this reply Wally :tiphat:
I'm grateful for your candor. Not many people "in the know" about these things speak directly. They hint and suggest, but never answer a question clearly. I understand there are limits on what you can talk about, but your sharing of this information is a true gift.

That Mullum pic you shared brings back great memories. Smaller than the boys used to grow them of course, but well grown and you can clearly see her ancestors.

Best wishes for success with your projects amigo!
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
I don't know why you keep talking about the "mango haze" test line Shanti gave you (that he never sold) as if it has anything to do with what other people have bought.
If it is so different from the retail line, you really shouldn't even use the name "Mango Haze" to describe it, right?
Seems obvious that you are never going to share or sell seeds/cuts you might have created/saved from that line, so why not call it "Hempy Haze"?
Shanti re worked the Mango Haze because the growers you know the people that buy his seeds didn't want a long flowering jungle sat but wanted a more practical plant so take it up with them not me Raho.

The last time i looked people were very happy with the re worked Mango haze some you know like Bushy Donald and others.

I do share clones and seed Raho with people i call friends but your not a friend.

Lets keep the thread on topic shall we.

So who has smoked the the Holy Grail ?

Dose it compare to say Nevils Haze ?

What is the flower time and yields people seeing.
 

Raho

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Shanti re worked the Mango Haze because the growers you know the people that buy his seeds didn't want a long flowering jungle sat but wanted a more practical plant so take it up with them not me Raho.
Hmmm. Back after a week away.
So, you know what Shanti's customers want eh?
It wasn't about that anyway. It was about you calling your tester seeds Mango Haze. Classic Hemp. Missing the point.

The last time i looked people were very happy with the re worked Mango haze some you know like Bushy Donald and others.
Bushy and Donald grow the "Mango Haze Inbred" line, not regular "Mango Haze."
Different name, different parents.
Just like your "Mango Haze" genetics that aren't Shanti's Mango Haze.
Different.
"Mango Haze Inbred" is almost never listed in the auctions BTW, so it's basically a full price purchase to get by request only.

I do share clones and seed Raho with people i call friends but your not a friend.
You're not my friend either Hemp.
You've never apologized to all the good people you wrongly attacked and drove away from MNS when you were a Mod.
Why should anyone consider you a decent human, entitled to share the forum with good ICmag members if you won't atone for those hostile misdeeds?

Lets keep the thread on topic shall we.
Nothing in this thread is on topic.
Usually when you make calls in a thread to stay on topic, it's after you have just finished an off-topic rant and somebody starts pointing out the incorrect things you said, so you look for a way to change the subject.

So who has smoked the the Holy Grail ?

Dose it compare to say Nevils Haze ?

What is the flower time and yields people seeing.
Do you really care? Ask GypsyEyes.
He's the only one in the thread that has grown it and he already shared his experience.

I'm sure you could get a pack for free from Shanti.
Why don't you get some and do a side by side grow journal between Shanti's Grail and Outback Haze?
They are both the work of people you claim to support and defend here on the board.
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
Bushy and Donald grow the "Mango Haze Inbred" line, not regular "Mango Haze."
Different name, different parents.
Just like your "Mango Haze" genetics that aren't Shanti's Mango Haze.
Different.
"Mango Haze Inbred" is almost never listed in the auctions BTW, so it's basically a full price purchase to get by request onl
There are only 2 mango Haze that i am aware of 1 is the test seed and only 10 people got them and most of them culled the plants. I know this as i was there in the thread at Cannabis World.

Then there is the re worked or inbreed line that was released and sold to the public and both are Mango Haze.

You should try it very good line i am told.
 

Donald Mallard

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that makes 3 really
because the ibl mango haze is not the same as the one commonly sold as mango haze ,
so its mango haze and mango haze ibl ,

oh then theres the initial test ones ,
that we never will forget because we get a constant reminder ,
10 people and hempy is the only one brave enough to see them through to the end ,
dont forget that , oh you dont have to worry , it will get mentioned again before you do .. lol ...

i think thats the point raho was making hempy ,
pretty sure we all know you were the only champ that managed to finish those very difficult and stubborn first test seeds ... bravo , well done ...
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
Its about the facts not whether i got the test seed or not Donald.

The test seed was the first and that used the 5HzC -122 mother and the SkHzA father making the F1 mango haze seed.

The version that was released was a very different looking mango haze.

When it was released we all new the new version was very different.
 

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OldCoolSativa

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Shanti has always been frustratingly obscure regarding the lineage of the seeds he sells, especially so with mango haze inbred. I'm sure Hempy is spot on the the MH tester seeds he got had different parents and the strain was reworked to yield faster flowering offspring. Shanti said something along the lines of the MHI was line was an early effort to reduce the flowering time.

Connecting the dots, my guess is that MHI derived from the same parents that spawned the MH testers that Hempy grew. MHI packs now go for serious money on the MNS auctions, so the market sees more value in the MHI seeds than in Shanti's regular the MH. I've read all the MNS grow logs about MH and MHI, and it seems MHI does give more interesting plants, but MHI flowering times are all over the place. I'd love to find a 20-weeker in the one pack I have. I think MHI would also be a good place to look for late-flowering hazy males.
 

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