Have you looked at the North Pole lately?

[Ununionized]

When you can't even name the law of thermodynamics specifically written for solving temperatures of gases hence atmospheres, that tells these other people all they need to know about your level of grasp of what you're prattling on about.

You've as much as admitted you think our cold nitrogen bath atmosphere is a heater anyway. That's called authority worship so gullible it'll believe anything.

The cold nitrogen atmosphere conduction chilling the planet is not a heater. No cold nitrogen bath ever 'warmed' the sunlight warmed rock it was

stopping 20% of otherwise available warming sunlight from reaching

and

conduction chilling 24/7/365. It's a cold nitrogen bath.


Just because ''guvurmint minn with bow ties and what not" told you "AT Tair Pot's like heroin boy" doesn't mean it is.

Just because another quorum of the same frauds told you a cold nitrogen bath is a magical heater doesn't mean it is, either.

 

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[St. Phatty]

You're so far out of the field you're not playing the same ball game. There is a law of thermodynamics written for solving temperatures and other values related to gases.

Stefan-Boltzmann processing alone doesn't account for temperatures of gases and atmospheres because if that gas law isn't processed properly the compression warming isn't accounted.

How useful is the
Pv=nRT formula

for calculating the amount of gas created by burning hydrocarbons & coal ?

e.g. you burn 1 cubic mile of oil and 1 cubic mile of coal, the approximate amounts we (7.5 billion people) consume annually.

I ballpark estimate that 1 cubic mile of solid as yielding 200 cubic miles of gas, CO2 & H20 in the case of hydrocarbons, CO2 in the case of the coal.

Anyway, the plants sure do like the higher CO2 levels.

I remember reading Ed Rosenthal grow books back in the 1980's, when they cited 389 ppm as a good supplemented level.

So now that our atmospheric CO2 is 402 to 405 ppm (more in the Northern Hemisphere ?), well, the plants like it. They grow faster, just like our pot plants do.

Then when they dry out and someone starts a fire ... it's a problem ... unless the fire is in the bowl on my water-pipe

 

[TychoMonolyth]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The question here is what in the world you thought the First Law has to do with solving gas and atmospheric temperatures.


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Not solving it. It's the simple math you need that you think NASA and NOAA got wrong, and Tony Heller got right. lol

Sheesh.

 

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[Ununionized]

Wrong answer, Tony Heller and the rest of the planet can calculate the temperature of the global atmosphere correctly.
YOUR HANDLERS at MAGIC GAISSINESS COUNTRY
told you to calculate the temperature of the global atmosphere
and come up
33 degrees short.

They also told you the identical law, - which you STILL can't name,
can't properly predict the temperature on Venus, at the same time countries from all over the world have landed 13 spacecraft on Venus,

and as far as I know haven't crashed one yet.

So much for the proper standard gas law and calculations in REAL science,
not actually working right to calculate temperatures on Venus because of the "Magical Gaissiness."

Did you ever name the law of thermodynamics for solving the temperature of a volume of gas properly? You still can't,

what about the two sections of the law, what are they? Which section contains the part you thought means that the law doesn't work properly on Venus? Is it the chart assigning CO2 less energy per mole than standard atmospheric air, or is it the equation, whose letters you obviously ALSO don't know, - what stand for...

Why is it that G.I.S.S. at N.A.S.A. and N.O.A.A. can't properly calculate the temperature of the atmosphere and reach the International Standard Atmosphere, against which we calibrate all our instruments,
and
LAND our CRAFT on VENUS remotely using CALCULATIONS identical to those establishing the I.S.A. ?

Why do some of the busted frauds at NASA claim the temperature of the planet is 33 degrees off what the REAL calculations are?

Again - if you knew the name of the law of physics you're discussing you'd be able to say clearly that Stefan-Boltzmann processing

doesn't account for the
33 degrees of compression warming
intrinsic to compressible phase matter,

which Stefan-Boltzmann processing
isn't designed to account for compression of.

Stefan-Boltzmann doesn't contain any gas volume/temperature/pressure considerations and CAN NOT PROPERLY CALCULATE temperature of a volume of gas, and if you
try it
for EARTH
YOUR fake church's shortfall will be - again kids, what's the magic shortfall that IMMEDIATELY APPEARS when COMPRESSION WARMING isn't accounted for Earth's global atmospheric temperature calculations?

That's right, 33 degrees.

Take apart Magic Gas Hansen's models and what do we notice in ALL these models? NO GAS LAW CALCULATIONS IN THEM. Simply Stefan-Boltzmann processing with a 33 degree shortfall, plugging in different numbers to "try to account for the magical gaissiness what we cain't evun hardly under stand, just like whin we discovered abowt that
devil weed
bein just like heroin.
It takes a long time for the "signts two mature" in cases where magical, devilish gaissiness and weediness dun violated the laws of atmospheric and biological chemistry so bad!"

LoL

Not solving it. It's the simple math you need that you think NASA and NOAA got wrong, and Tony Heller got right. lol

Sheesh.

 

[Ununionized]

The identical people telling you magical gassiness dun made a cold nitrogen bath a magical heater cain't nobody understand hardly, cause awl thim physics laws is awl messed up,

also told you a clunky hockey stick generator with thousands of extra lines of code left to hide that fact, "is a whole new branch of mathematics! Climate mathematics!"

They also told you it's possible to calculate the temperatures of compressible fluids using Stefan-Boltzmann processing alone, not solving for the MANDATORY 33 degrees COMPRESSION WARMING ACTUAL GAS LAW ACCOUNTS FOR.

Hence, your church's 'calculation' of the planetary temperature is 33 degrees short, and all kinds of excuses are made for this fake artifact.

It's an inversion scam, call a cold nitrogen bath a heater, then lie, steal, lie, and program kids to believe that the same fellurs what discovered about the devil weed being just like heroin, and worse for you than methyl amphetamine,

can't be wrong about that,
or be wrong when they tell you a hockey stick generator is a new form of math,
and that a cold nitrogen bath is a giant magical heater.

 

[Ununionized]

Them heroinajuanas and marijuanas and magical gaissinesses, ain't somethin evurbody can understand
if they doant understand abowt
yew know


guvurmint signts.

Whur pot's jist laik heroin and yew can go to jail for "not believing in the signts"

and that it's ''werse fur yew than meth amphetamines" c a u s e it's ...yew know..
DEVIL weed,

well it's jist like thim Devil Gaisses, jist cain't evurbodie understand about devilish gaissiness what makes a cold nitrogen bath,
into a big old heater!"

YaW.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

In a California court case this week (27 March 2018), Judge William Alsup asked the two sides to provide him a climate science tutorial.

The plaintiffs are the coastal cities of San Francisco and Oakland. They’re suing five major oil companies (Chevron, ExxonMobil, Shell, ConocoPhillips and BP) to pay for the cities’ costs to cope with the sea level rise caused by global warming. Chevron’s lawyer presented the science for the defense, and most notably, began by explicitly accepting the expert consensus on human-caused global warming, saying:

"From Chevron’s perspective, there is no debate about the science of climate change"

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Tuvalu is going to be under sea in no time.

 

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[igrowone]

Climate Change Saves Tuvalu!
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interesting situation in Tuvalu
in short, sea levels rising(as measured)
Tuvalu is growing by sand accumulation, etc., basically the process that created the island
this article does seem to show agreement with current climate change science

 

[CaptainDankness]

I can't wait until Antarctica thaws, it can become New America.

 

[igrowone]

I can't wait until Antarctica thaws, it can become New America.

that would be 'interesting'
if all the ice melted there, changes in seal level by 100's of feet
i suppose survivors will be in an acquire territory mindset
that's how it has always worked before though without the presence of nuclear weapons

 

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[Hermanthegerman]

Just yesterday I saw a documentation about Norway, the tree frontier goes up North. Foxes come in, Lemmings are in danger. Of Course not the biggest Problem, but I think you can see the climate Change in Little Things like that.

 

[Ununionized]

Since the worldwide physical, calibration and regulatory standard called the International Standard Atmosphere

declares the temperature of the planet hasn't changed since 1864 - or else

every astronaut
every pilot
every scuba diver
every welder
every air conditioner tech
every radio man

* * *would have to have part of their EDUCATION set aside to * * *

* * *explain how the LAWS OF PHYSICS CHANGED* * *

ALL YOU WHO wish THE CLIMATE CHANGED or CAN or IS changing

are OUT of LUCK: the LAWS of PHYSICS DECLARE that FAKERY to be just THAT.