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Have you looked at the North Pole lately?
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Still close to there, it is moving around more every year. There are alternate "facts" about this as well. In the 1600's it reached Europe before heading back north.
Oh, the physical pole, oops, my bad.
Earth takes it's time to accomplish changes. Earth takes even more time to take those changes back again.
Egyptian culture flourished and grew until it could build pyramids. This all happened while the Sahara was a paradise. That changed, the desert grew and the pyramids were abandoned.
Hold your breath, the monsoons will bring the Sahara back to paradise in only 15.000 years, we are already 5,000 years into the 20,000 year cycle.
This is caused by the wobble in Earth's axis, long term stuff. The 'natural' cycle the deniers do not understand.
Time, most have a concept of short time only, once past a few thousand generations the ability to comprehend the span is lost due to lack of anything to compare it to.
i am out of rep power in spite of not being here for a while. i WILL get back to you. very good post...
coconutcurry
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Shipping Plans Grow as Arctic Ice Fades
https://e360.yale.edu/features/cargo_shipping_in_the_arctic_declining_sea_ice
https://e360.yale.edu/features/cargo_shipping_in_the_arctic_declining_sea_ice
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
I'm not supposed to be able to grow Peaches here but last year I got 24 juicy ones. Not bad for a zone 4 plant growing in zone 5 huh?
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We are told that glacier ice melt will raise ocean levels, and drown coastal cities.
We are told glaciers are at the lowest levels, and are in danger of disappearing soon.
Why is the water not half way flooding coastal cities yet? (no, don't throw up an article about an island. We are talking mainlands)Or even risen a noticeable amount?
We are told glaciers are at the lowest levels, and are in danger of disappearing soon.
Why is the water not half way flooding coastal cities yet? (no, don't throw up an article about an island. We are talking mainlands)Or even risen a noticeable amount?
the level of sea level has risen modestly, a few inches or so
it's about what it may do
sooner if you believe some climate predictions, 40/50 years
later for some other predictions, 100+ years
or not at all if you're not believing any climate predictions
coconutcurry
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Have you looked at California lately?
droughtmonitor.unl.edu/CurrentMap/StateDroughtMonitor.aspx?CA
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...just-had-its-worst-drought-in-over-1200-years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmq4WIjQxp0
droughtmonitor.unl.edu/CurrentMap/StateDroughtMonitor.aspx?CA
https://www.theguardian.com/environ...just-had-its-worst-drought-in-over-1200-years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmq4WIjQxp0
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the top link is broken
do see that the recent drought was on the 1400 year mark for severity
that's kind of a notable event
some recent precipitation has helped from what i can gather
the west and east USA are really getting weird and different
damn cold in the eastern half, and shit loads of water
coconutcurry
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Sorry. Should work now. Link does not work with HTTPS, only with HTTP.
I live in north-western Germany and we always had west- or east-wind. Mostly west-wind from the sea. It was never different. North- or south-winds were very rare, but now it's standard. I think it changed about ten years ago. Wind switched from west/east to north/south or north-east / south-west. North wind means its much too cold and south-wind means its much too warm. In spring for example temperatures sometimes falter between +10 °C and -10 °C, what means the trees start blossoming and then all blossoms freeze, insects die. In summer it can be as cold as in November or as hot like the Sahara.
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"insects die..." well, i am for that, if we are talking chiggers, ticks, mosquitos, no-see 'ums, stinkbugs, & blackflies... i would walk all the way around the world to get a chance to kill the last tick & skeeters!
dirty fucking little disease-bearing bloodsuckers....
dirty fucking little disease-bearing bloodsuckers....
Climate is changing for sure, but the ocean's rise?
In the past the ocean has varied by over 500'. This has caused major events in evolution and dispersal of land animals.
But...the ice melts only account for a few meters, not hundreds and hundreds.
The big changes are caused by the ocean basins changing size. The Atlantic ridge causing the Atlantic ocean to grow in volume. The subduction zone in the Pacific, the 'Rim of Fire' causing all those volcanoes, is reducing the volume of the Pacific.
The tectonic changes are unaffected by mankind's shenanigans and are really slow. But are the main drivers of past major ocean level changes.
All that being true, the rise of just a meter has extremely enormous consequences for industrialized coastal lands of advanced nations.
This is short term and upon us now.
In the past the ocean has varied by over 500'. This has caused major events in evolution and dispersal of land animals.
But...the ice melts only account for a few meters, not hundreds and hundreds.
The big changes are caused by the ocean basins changing size. The Atlantic ridge causing the Atlantic ocean to grow in volume. The subduction zone in the Pacific, the 'Rim of Fire' causing all those volcanoes, is reducing the volume of the Pacific.
The tectonic changes are unaffected by mankind's shenanigans and are really slow. But are the main drivers of past major ocean level changes.
All that being true, the rise of just a meter has extremely enormous consequences for industrialized coastal lands of advanced nations.
This is short term and upon us now.
St. Phatty
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Almost every day.
They're coming up on a very difficult wildfire year.
And doing Zip Zero Zilch to prepare for it.
the fun is just starting
the fun is just starting
many members have posted about the unusual weather conditions they've been seeing
wild weather in my neck of the woods, the cold variety
but the real fun is looking to be up on the greenland ice sheet
the melt has started, and that REALLY should not be happening yet
we'll see if it's a bump or something more dramatic
the fun is just starting
many members have posted about the unusual weather conditions they've been seeing
wild weather in my neck of the woods, the cold variety
but the real fun is looking to be up on the greenland ice sheet
the melt has started, and that REALLY should not be happening yet
we'll see if it's a bump or something more dramatic
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fill a glass up with water, then add a bunch of ice cubes. what happens to the water level?
Soon isn't the same scale as humans think of as "soon". This'll happen over the next hundred+ years or so or longer. Land ice sheets are at an overall net loss. Greenland is losing land ice faster than Antarctica is growing land ice.
I mean, you can look this stuff up but I'm sure you'll just cry about some liberal bias as pertaining to scientific evidence.
"Researchers can say that global ocean levels have risen about 19 centimeters in the last century. And the rate of rise has sped up. The 20th-century average is about 1.7 millimeters per year; since 1993 the average rate has nearly doubled — to about 3.2 millimeters per year.Oct 21, 2013"
Hermen_eutics
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