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Have you looked at the North Pole lately?

moose eater

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I think that tracks with what I(and many others) are seeing, more extremes
warmer but nature won't give you a free ride, warm snap/cold snap and less moderate temps
not to mention extreme precipitation events, or lack thereof, northeast is getting into drought heading into December - wtf?
Still happening. A few mornings ago we were -30 f. on the front porch mercury and glass thermometer, and then the last day and a half we've had what even NOAA often refers to as 'frizzle', which is misting rain or slightly larger drops sometimes, occurring even when the air temps are well below freezing temps, often/sometimes between anywhere from 0 f to +25 f, encasing the vehicles in stippled tiny ice crystals and sometimes making driving a motherfucker by glazing the roads.

And not relative to what I once assumed, which was warmer upper atmosphere. More of some weird chemistry at play.

We've seen 80- and 90-degree temperature shifts in as little as 24 hours years ago, when we might bounce from a period of minus 50 f. (-50 f) and get a Chinook wind from the southern coast up over the Alaska Range, and bounce us up to over +30 f. in very short order, at which point we'd be acclimated to the preceding cold and put on t-shirts and be outside grilling and shit.

But this more recent stuff is a lot like this last summer, an unpredictable rollercoaster ride.
 

Eltitoguay

Well-known member
I think that tracks with what I(and many others) are seeing, more extremes
warmer but nature won't give you a free ride, warm snap/cold snap and less moderate temps
not to mention extreme precipitation events, or lack thereof, northeast is getting into drought heading into December - wtf?
The fact is that believing that climate change was little more than being able to grow haze outdoors in Alaska and avocados in Iceland is a childish vision that even part of our political class and its public have.
The initial phase of climate change, where the gradual rise in temperatures was the most observable (that was the still reversible phase), has already passed.

We are already in the next phase, which is irreversible (now it is about adapting to the new situation and trying not to get worse): we have added so much energy to the atmosphere, that now the great disasters begin, with all the possible meteorological phenomena much more energetic and destructive.

The next phase could be the total alteration of the large ocean currents, and even changes in the movement and axis of the earth due to the movement and redistribution of the oceanic water mass.
 

nepalnt21

FRRRRRResh!
Veteran
well, my house will prolly get blown over or float away, but maybe the global economic impact will finally give conservatives the kick in the pants they need to help us save ourselves from extinction! oh, who am i kidding? it's all planned: musk and bezos will live together in harmony on a permaculture barge in l.o.o. while zuckerberg'll hide in his hidey hole in hawaii. humanity will be fine!

as long as they can engineer a way to have babies with eachother
 

Eltitoguay

Well-known member
But I think that specifically, it is not due to climate change, although human activity may have an influence.
I was referring to alterations in the axis and movement of the planet:

How climate change is changing the Earth's axis of rotation:​


Earth Sciences​

The melting of the poles modifies the speed at which the Earth rotates :​


PHYSICS

Melting ice is slowing down the Earth's rotation :​


If all the ice on Earth melted and flowed into the ocean, what would happen to the planet's rotation? :​

 

Eltitoguay

Well-known member
scientist tell us already that the Gulf Stream is slowing. this is NOT a "good thing"...:eek:

The Atlantic Ocean is heading toward a tipping point that could trigger extreme climate change within decades.

What will happen if the Atlantic current stops? :​




The Gulf Stream could collapse at 'any moment': what would be the consequences?​

The ocean current system that regulates the planet's temperature could collapse by 2025-2030 due to climate change, scientists have concluded.
A new prediction from scientists at the University of Copenhagen in Denmark warns that the Atlantic meridional overturning circulation is close to a tipping point that would severely disrupt the climate . Experts warn that critical ocean currents, which transport heat, cold and precipitation between the tropics and the far reaches of the Atlantic region, could completely collapse sometime after 2025 if greenhouse gas emissions continue at their current rate.

The Gulf Stream: The Most Foretold Catastrophe :​

 
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