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Have you looked at the North Pole lately?

igrowone

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not yet at the end of the ice making season, which is where i usually update
but a short statement from the nsidc for the end of month observations

'January of 2018 began and ended with satellite-era record lows in Arctic sea ice extent, resulting in a new record low for the month. Combined with low ice extent in the Antarctic, global sea ice extent is also at a record low.'
 

Wendull C.

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The sun influences temperature on the big blue marble? Fuck, someone better tell the global warming, um, I mean climate change morons.
 

igrowone

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Satellite observations show sea levels rising, and climate change is accelerating it

Updated 3:39 PM ET, Mon February 12, 2018

By Brandon Miller, CNN Meteorologist




Story highlights


  • Global sea level is on the rise at an increasing rate, according to a new study
  • By the end of the century, it could rise another 2 feet



(CNN)Sea level rise is happening now, and the rate at which it is rising is increasing every year, according to a study released Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Researchers, led by University of Colorado-Boulder professor of aerospace engineering sciencesSteve Nerem, used satellite data dating to 1993 to observe the levels of the world's oceans.
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Changes in sea level observed between 1992 and 2014. Orange/red colors represent higher sea levels, while blue colors show where sea levels are lower.




Using satellite data rather than tide-gauge data that is normally used to measure sea levels allows for more precise estimates of global sea level, since it provides measurements of the open ocean.
The team observed a total rise in the ocean of 7 centimeters (2.8 inches) in 25 years of data, which aligns with the generally accepted current rate of sea level rise of about 3 millimeters (0.1 inches) per year.
But that rate is not constant.
Continuous emissions of greenhouse gases are warming the Earth's atmosphere and oceans and melting its ice, causing the rate of sea level rise to increase.
"This acceleration, driven mainly by accelerated melting in Greenland and Antarctica, has the potential to double the total sea level rise by 2100 as compared to projections that assume a constant rate, to more than 60 centimeters instead of about 30," said Nerem, who is also a fellow with the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Science.

That projection agrees perfectly with climate models used in the latest International Panel on Climate Change report, which show sea level rise to be between 52 and 98 centimeters by 2100 for a "business as usual" scenario (in which greenhouse emissions continue without reduction). Therefore, scientists now have observed evidence validating climate model projections, as well as providing policy-makers with a "data-driven assessment of sea level change that does not depend on the climate models," Nerem said.
Sea level rise of 65 centimeters, or roughly 2 feet, would cause significant problems for coastal cities around the world. Extreme water levels, such as high tides and surges from strong storms, would be made exponentially worse.
Consider the record set in Boston Harbor during January's "bomb cyclone" or the inundation regularly experienced in Miami during the King tides; these are occurring with sea levels that have risen about a foot in the past 100 years.
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Nerem provided this chart showing sea level projections to 2100 using the newly calculated acceleration rate.




Now, researchers say we could add another 2 feet by the end of this century.
Nerem and his team took into account natural changes in sea level thanks to cycles such as El Niño/La Niña and even events such as the 1991 eruption of Mount Pinatubo, which altered sea levels worldwide for several years.
The result is a "climate-change-driven" acceleration: the amount the sea levels are rising because of the warming caused by manmade global warming.
The researchers used data from other scientific missions such as GRACE, the Gravity Recovery and Climate Experiment, to determine what was causing the rate to accelerate.
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NASA's GRACE mission used satellites to measure changes in ice mass. This image shows areas of Antarctica that gained or lost ice between 2002 and 2016.




Currently, over half of the observed rise is the result of "thermal expansion": As ocean water warms, it expands, and sea levels rise. The rest of the rise is the result of melted ice in Greenland and Antarctica and mountain glaciers flowing into the oceans.
Theirs is a troubling finding when considering the recent rapid ice loss in the ice sheets.
"Sixty-five centimeters is probably on the low end for 2100," Nerem said, "since it assumes the rate and acceleration we have seen over the last 25 years continues for the next 82 years."
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"We are already seeing signs of ice sheet instability in Greenland and Antarctica, so if they experience rapid changes, then we would likely see more than 65 centimeters of sea level rise by 2100."
Penn State climate scientist Michael Mann, who was not involved with the study, said "it confirms what we have long feared: that the sooner-than-expected ice loss from the west Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets is leading to acceleration in sea level rise sooner than was projected."

CNN's Judson Jones contributed to this story.
 

vta

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So Al Gore tells us now that there is another player is climate change {that is what they are calling it nowadays right?}...Mother Nature ! Yep...good old Mother nature is now partly responsible for climate change...go figure.
 

igrowone

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it's difficult to believe that top chart concerning sea level.
water seeks a level surface. that chart/graph shows anomalous areas mid ocean where it indicates levels lower than surrounding waters, which i find impossible...water would immediately flow in to fill those low spots.
to believe what that graph allegedly indicates would imply very active high and low pressure areas effecting water levels, not melting snow or ice. those high and low pressure areas are positive and negative electrical effects generated by the sun and galaxy that our magnetosphere used to protect us from.

no offense, but step away from the lame-stream media, they're not educating but instead programming a paradigm...and that's not just opinion on my part. it's like looking through a kaleidoscope and thinking it's reality.

that's my bucktwothirtynine.

that's where we disagree to some extent
mainstream media has its weak points
however, this is a real science article presented to a credible science organization
no offense, but when you start throwing out everything that appears in mainstream media, that is not very rigorous reasoning
it's a simple and convenient excuse to toss out what you don't like
 

mean mr.mustard

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So Al Gore tells us now that there is another player is climate change {that is what they are calling it nowadays right?}...Mother Nature ! Yep...good old Mother nature is now partly responsible for climate change...go figure.

So it does exist?
 

EasyGoing

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Hehe, love these threads.

Ice cap still there? Check!

As for the water being higher or lower in the ocean, this is very possible. High and low pressures push on the water. Hence why during hurricanes the surf raises. The tides, ext.
 

EasyGoing

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So Al Gore tells us now that there is another player is climate change {that is what they are calling it nowadays right?}...Mother Nature ! Yep...good old Mother nature is now partly responsible for climate change...go figure.

Next he will tell us the sun has an effect as well.......... :moon:
 

igrowone

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... it's been twenty+ years of overwhelming evidence to the contrary that global warming is happening, yet they refuse to embrace an alternative explanation, other than changing the alarm to 'climate change'...

:thinking:

it is interesting how different, different points of view can be
it's why perjury charges are seldom brought, most people think they're telling the truth(as they see it)
now where i reside, and i've resided for all of my years in upstate ny
the damn weather is changing, and the change isn't small
mostly weird
anyhow, the arctic is still doing it's thing, a new low for the maximum looks pretty certain at this point
so many points of data, it's just not possible to create a conspiracy theory that holds water here
 
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