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Have you looked at the North Pole lately?
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i'll say we somewhat disagree
i'm not going to try to give a percent contribution of what co2 is doing, because i think fairly it's too complicated
the 'big' statement issued by the scientific community is that human activities are driving climate change
i'm good with that statement, but more details will emerge over time
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for the record, this is how the current mainstream science ranks the warming contributions of the greenhouse gases
now i will concede these are based on some degree of calculation and isolation of effects
it is simply not possible to factually assert this is absolute
we are doing a mixed emissions experiment on our planet
now i will concede these are based on some degree of calculation and isolation of effects
it is simply not possible to factually assert this is absolute
we are doing a mixed emissions experiment on our planet
Scientists have proven that there has been an ice age approximately every 100,000 years. . .
Tao
Tao
I am willing to postulate that at least one percent of the five of n2o was caused by people at music festivals.
CaptainDankness
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Can anyone post what's so bad about global warming?
I don't get what all the fuss is about, we ain't exactly made for cold weather we are pretty much hairless apes. We can't survive butt naked very far from the equator. Lol, We are all burning wood, coal and fuel just to heat our homes we are surviving the ice the equator beautiful weather year round.
I want to see the downside global warming sounds fucking awesome to me. I have to layer up just to cook on the grill! Fuck anti global warming ideology!
Everyone start burning your old car tires, the corporations can't do it all themselves. 
Can anyone post what's so bad about global warming?
I don't get what all the fuss is about, we ain't exactly made for cold weather we are pretty much hairless apes. We can't survive butt naked very far from the equator. Lol, We are all burning wood, coal and fuel just to heat our homes we are surviving the ice the equator beautiful weather year round.
I want to see the downside global warming sounds fucking awesome to me. I have to layer up just to cook on the grill! Fuck anti global warming ideology!
you have a point here
could be a blessing, could be a curse
it's how much, and there the estimates do differ a lot
at this point, the bullets are out of the gun, it's in the cards so to speak
but pumping the atmosphere indefinitely? there's going to be a point where it's not good
stadanko
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Can anyone post what's so bad about global warming?
I don't get what all the fuss is about, we ain't exactly made for cold weather we are pretty much hairless apes. We can't survive butt naked very far from the equator. Lol, We are all burning wood, coal and fuel just to heat our homes we are surviving the ice the equator beautiful weather year round.
I want to see the downside global warming sounds fucking awesome to me. I have to layer up just to cook on the grill! Fuck anti global warming ideology!
I'm guessing you don't live in a low-lying coastal community. Or near a school.
CaptainDankness
Well-known member
No, the school is not far but it's not going under water.
But as for people living in low-lying coastal communities, they were warned long ago and can still sell their property. Of course who knows what to believe? I believe Al Gore's Inconvienent Truth said Florida would be under water by now and we ain't even close to that.
I only see an upside Canada might have more land than America but most of that land is cold as hell, nobody lives too far north. Global warming can bring plenty of opportunity. Larger oceans will also make for an abundance of fish.
russia seems to be good with the idea, i can understand that being where russia is
probably the biggest issue is water, where will the rains fall?
may be the same, may be not
for example, suppose it's a net increase in rainfall we see, that could be good
but if rainfall goes down in the american midwest and goes up in the african sahel, that's not a win/win
CaptainDankness
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Still not all bad, at one time in human history the Sahara desert was green. People made cave drawings about it fishing and swimming.
Don't really matter what happens life will find a way. Anything we possibly can do has already happened, unless we all go into a full on nuke war but even that won't end life on Earth.
The cup is half full, no need to worry about it, don't want to give yourself a heart attack.
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The cup is half full, no need to worry about it, don't want to give yourself a heart attack.
words to the wise and good advice
though i don't get stressed over this issue, actually fascinated is closer
probably a win where i live, which would be good timing, getting to the age where the cold is less fun than it used to be
just not too much warmer is fine by me, a horde of climate refugees streaming north i could do with out
CaptainDankness
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Yeah, fuck bringing refugees north, they can be shipped to Antarctica. Though I would want to see an ice free Antarctica too. Lol, would be great putting a bunch of flat earthers on Antarctica too and make a TV show, Searching For The Edge.
The more I think about it, a warmer Earth sounds epic. Only downside I hear is stronger storms, really the only thing I miss about Florida, well other than the warm weather.
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thank you trichrider for that post
i guess that says not 'end of world' situation, but still it's not that reassuring
on the info side, the latest temperature data is out, crickey, and it's interesting
baked alaska is showing up pretty clear, and the freeze in the northeast
December
December 2017 Blended Land and Sea Surface
Temperature Anomalies in degrees Celsius
December 2017 Blended Land and Sea Surface
Temperature Percentiles
During December 2017, the most notable temperature departures from average occurred across the Northern Hemisphere land. Western Canada, Alaska, eastern Europe, and western Russia had temperature departures from average that were +4.0°C (+7.2°F) or greater. Meanwhile, western Canada, the northeastern contiguous U.S., northwestern Africa, and eastern Asia had temperatures that were -1.0°C (-1.8°F) or cooler. Across the oceans, the eastern and central tropical Pacific Ocean, the southern Atlantic Ocean, northwestern Pacific Ocean (off the coast of Japan) and parts of the Indian Ocean had near- to cooler than average conditions. Record warmth was present across Alaska, southeastern China, New Guinea and surrounding ocean, the southwestern and central Pacific Ocean, the south-central Indian Ocean, and scattered across the Atlantic Ocean. No land or ocean areas had record cold December temperatures. According to NCEI's Regional Analysis, four of six continents had a top eight warm December, with Oceania having its third warmest December on record.
The combined global average temperature over land and ocean surfaces for December 2017 was 0.80°C (1.44°F) above the 20th century average of 12.2°C (54.0°F)—tying with 2016 as the third highest December global temperature since records began in 1880. Only December 2015 and 2014 were warmer. The last five years (2013–2017) are among the ten warmest Decembers on record. December 2017 also marks the 33rd consecutive December (since 1985) and the 396th consecutive month with temperatures at least nominally above the 20th century average. The global land surface temperature for December 2017 was 1.45°C (2.61°F) above the 20th century average of 3.7°C (38.7°F) and the second highest December temperature on record, trailing behind 2015 by 0.43°C (0.77°F).
Select national information is highlighted below. Please note that different countries report anomalies with respect to different base periods. The information provided here is based directly upon these data:
i guess that says not 'end of world' situation, but still it's not that reassuring
on the info side, the latest temperature data is out, crickey, and it's interesting
baked alaska is showing up pretty clear, and the freeze in the northeast
December
December 2017 Blended Land and Sea Surface
Temperature Anomalies in degrees Celsius
December 2017 Blended Land and Sea Surface
Temperature Percentiles
During December 2017, the most notable temperature departures from average occurred across the Northern Hemisphere land. Western Canada, Alaska, eastern Europe, and western Russia had temperature departures from average that were +4.0°C (+7.2°F) or greater. Meanwhile, western Canada, the northeastern contiguous U.S., northwestern Africa, and eastern Asia had temperatures that were -1.0°C (-1.8°F) or cooler. Across the oceans, the eastern and central tropical Pacific Ocean, the southern Atlantic Ocean, northwestern Pacific Ocean (off the coast of Japan) and parts of the Indian Ocean had near- to cooler than average conditions. Record warmth was present across Alaska, southeastern China, New Guinea and surrounding ocean, the southwestern and central Pacific Ocean, the south-central Indian Ocean, and scattered across the Atlantic Ocean. No land or ocean areas had record cold December temperatures. According to NCEI's Regional Analysis, four of six continents had a top eight warm December, with Oceania having its third warmest December on record.
The combined global average temperature over land and ocean surfaces for December 2017 was 0.80°C (1.44°F) above the 20th century average of 12.2°C (54.0°F)—tying with 2016 as the third highest December global temperature since records began in 1880. Only December 2015 and 2014 were warmer. The last five years (2013–2017) are among the ten warmest Decembers on record. December 2017 also marks the 33rd consecutive December (since 1985) and the 396th consecutive month with temperatures at least nominally above the 20th century average. The global land surface temperature for December 2017 was 1.45°C (2.61°F) above the 20th century average of 3.7°C (38.7°F) and the second highest December temperature on record, trailing behind 2015 by 0.43°C (0.77°F).
Select national information is highlighted below. Please note that different countries report anomalies with respect to different base periods. The information provided here is based directly upon these data:
When the ocean's mean temps get to the point of releasing more CO2,
and circulation currents slow down, then we start to see the greater impact.
Can't wait.
and circulation currents slow down, then we start to see the greater impact.
Can't wait.
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this is an often quoted phrase by those sceptical of co2 warming
here's the counter from the skepticalscience site
This statement does not tell the whole story. The initial changes in temperature during this period are explained by changes in the Earth’s orbit around the sun, which affects the amount of seasonal sunlight reaching the Earth’s surface. In the case of warming, the lag between temperature and CO2 is explained as follows: as ocean temperatures rise, oceans release CO2 into the atmosphere. In turn, this release amplifies the warming trend, leading to yet more CO2 being released. In other words, increasing CO2 levels become both the cause and effect of further warming. This positive feedback is necessary to trigger the shifts between glacials and interglacials as the effect of orbital changes is too weak to cause such variation. Additional positive feedbacks which play an important role in this process include other greenhouse gases, and changes in ice sheet cover and vegetation patterns. A 2012 study by Shakun et al. looked at temperature changes 20,000 years ago (the last glacial-interglacial transition) from around the world and added more detail to our understanding of the CO2-temperature change relationship. They found that:
- The Earth's orbital cycles triggered warming in the Arctic approximately 19,000 years ago, causing large amounts of ice to melt, flooding the oceans with fresh water.
- This influx of fresh water then disrupted ocean current circulation, in turn causing a seesawing of heat between the hemispheres.
- The Southern Hemisphere and its oceans warmed first, starting about 18,000 years ago. As the Southern Ocean warms, the solubility of CO2 in water falls. This causes the oceans to give up more CO2, releasing it into the atmosphere.
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