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Have you looked at the North Pole lately?

Phaeton

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The occupying US army in Alaska was given the vote and ordered to "make Alaska a state" by the commanding officers.
56 years later the large white cities have water and toilets, the other 97% of Alaska poops in holes or buckets.
I had plumbing during the year and a half I visited the states. The convenience was not worth having to live in a hive so here I am, pooping in a hole in the ground a -20 degrees.

If the villages were full of white people this would have changed 70 or 80 years ago.
The present administration stopped pretending and openly encourages this second class citizenship.
I suppose it is good we are only tan instead of dark brown.

In the for what it's worth, at -73 (Fort Yukon, winter of '79) the stream of pee cannot be seen through the vapors, and the outhouse 'stump' reaches high enough to poke the unwary.
 

Cannavore

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You guys that call me a denier, ( i really give two shits either way, i will be long dead before miami is turned into venice)
humanity would have crumbled to bits by now if every one held your attitude.

why have so many scientists, professors, ngo's, and governments been caught tampering with, omitting or just flat out falsifying evidence
got any proof? or do you guys have more misquotes and misinformation cherry picked from real documents.


that shows the earyh is actually in a cooling trend?
it's not.

16 of the 17 hottest years on record have all occurred after the year 2000.

https://youtu.be/xvMmPtEt8dc


If their theory is true, why the need to lie cheat and steal metaphorically? Or in the case of east anglia university really stealing grant monies.
climategate was debunked almost a decade ago
 

igrowone

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The occupying US army in Alaska was given the vote and ordered to "make Alaska a state" by the commanding officers.
56 years later the large white cities have water and toilets, the other 97% of Alaska poops in holes or buckets.
I had plumbing during the year and a half I visited the states. The convenience was not worth having to live in a hive so here I am, pooping in a hole in the ground a -20 degrees.

If the villages were full of white people this would have changed 70 or 80 years ago.
The present administration stopped pretending and openly encourages this second class citizenship.
I suppose it is good we are only tan instead of dark brown.

In the for what it's worth, at -73 (Fort Yukon, winter of '79) the stream of pee cannot be seen through the vapors, and the outhouse 'stump' reaches high enough to poke the unwary.

it's a wonder that the organ in question doesn't freeze on the spot
that's an intensity of cold i can only shudder at
 

Wendull C.

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humanity would have crumbled to bits by now if every one held your attitude.


got any proof? or do you guys have more misquotes and misinformation cherry picked from real documents.



it's not.

16 of the 17 hottest years on record have all occurred after the year 2000.

https://youtu.be/xvMmPtEt8dc



climategate was debunked almost a decade ago

Cannavore, i respect your opinion, but the controversy at east anglia university about the hockey stick graph was debunked? Please give me some proof on that one. I will not attack tje source if credible but come on man.

What about the recent controversy in australia cherry picking ocean temps? I mean it goes on and on. Warming/ change may well be reality but why the need to falsify data then?

:tiphat:
 

Wendull C.

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And that 16 of the 17 hottest years is bullshit. It comes from the same lyin fucks i have been bitchin about. C'mon man, you link to youtube for a source?

What trichrider gave you were sources. Youtube is some asshole with an opinion. I want scientific papers with proven scientists as sources. Kind of like trichrider posted as stated above.
 
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Wendull C.

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humanity would have crumbled to bits by now if every one held your attitude.

I agree but I could still give two shits about humanity.

According to al gore in an inconveniant truth, shouldn't miami be under water by now anyway? Or has tjat been debunked on youtube also?
 

Cannavore

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Cannavore, i respect your opinion, but the controversy at east anglia university about the hockey stick graph was debunked? Please give me some proof on that one. I will not attack tje source if credible but come on man.
couldnt give two shits if you respect my opinion or not. i already did. the youtuber potholer54 absolutely destroys all climate denial and conspiritard bullshit. he provides primary sources for everything. again i'm not here to debate. because if i were to engage in debate it'd be no different than debating if the earth were round or flat.

What about the recent controversy in australia cherry picking ocean temps? I mean it goes on and on. Warming/ change may well be reality but why the need to falsify data then?
:tiphat:

i searched and found nothing. more bullshit.
 

Cannavore

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I agree but I could still give two shits about humanity.

According to al gore in an inconveniant truth, shouldn't miami be under water by now anyway? Or has tjat been debunked on youtube also?

al gore isnt a scientist. i could give fuck all what he has to say.
 

Cannavore

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you're entitled to believe whatever you will.

i apologize for the discomfort i've inflicted upon you for backing my opinion with actual scientific papers and discussions, which you claim i have not read and of which it is certain you have not.

you want to believe some guy named potholer on youtube instead of bonifide scientific investigations that dispute your contention, and then accuse me of cherry-picking titles to support mine.

lame. i guess i'm also responsible for causing you to stoop so low as to defend fraud and criminal conspiracy with the potholer post.

i stand by my statement that the sun is the climate driver and our role, being what it is, amounts to insignificance in the amount of energy involved.

it's well documented that the sun provides earth with around 1340 watts electrical energy per square meter and that CO2 doubling could/would only increase that energy by 1 (one) watt.

however, since the earths and solar magnetic fields have weakened there are more GCRs affecting cloud nucleation which increases cloud cover globally adding albedo and insolation of absorbed UV.

the dominant GHG is water vapor. GCRs cause ionization of H2O molecules leading to nucleation and formation of clouds.

clouds cool the planet. yet the climate computer models used by the IPCC ignore diurnal cloud albedo in their computation leading to erroneous and fraudulent results...like say the 19 year pause in warming that the models predicted.

you indirectly indicate i don't know what i'm talking about yet you offer little and no evidence to corroborate that ignorance.

yet again i offer you my sympathy and condolence for causing you such angst.

be well

that's the thing. with scientific fact, belief is irrelevant. facts don't need my belief to make it true. "some guy" named potholer54 is a scientist who literally destroys every conspiracy and misrepresentation of facts you people can come up with. again i dont need to present facts for a consensus argument, actually giving the time of day to this shit is no different than debating the shape of the earth. go ahead post on potholer54's videos. he answers many posts. currently greenhouse gases are warming the planet. the sun is a classic driver of planetary warming this isn't questionable. increased greenhouse gases caused by humans is currently warming the planet. this is pretty much irrefutable. cherry picking a single paper out of a consensus view literally means nothing.
 

igrowone

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https://cci-reanalyzer.org/wx/DailySummary/#t2

this site has great graphics of a multitude of measurements.
click on the "SEA ICE/SNOW COVER" and then click on the planet to change views.

the arctic has plenty of ice as well as northern latitudes with lots of snow.
the Bering, Chukchi, and Beaufort Seas all have ice.
the warmth doesn't seem to mind the ice and snow.

this graphic is updated daily.

interesting tool, will take some time to get the hang of it
as for ice, yes there is ice, it's the middle of january, there better be ice
but the measurements put it at a near record low for this time of year
that said, that's just a 40ish year time span, satellites are pretty new to the human experience
 

Wendull C.

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Cannavore, Was trying to have a civil discourse. Fuck you too. Suck a dick and i bid you a fond self fornication.
 

Wendull C.

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couldnt give two shits if you respect my opinion or not. i already did. the youtuber potholer54 absolutely destroys all climate denial and conspiritard bullshit. he provides primary sources for everything. again i'm not here to debate. because if i were to engage in debate it'd be no different than debating if the earth were round or flat.



i searched and found nothing. more bullshit.
dickholer 66 the next fucking isaac newton.

If you searched and found nothing your a short bus ridin motherfucker who isnt woth another minute of my time.

Typical lib, well fuck it. You arent worth another word.
 

igrowone

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yep. forty years ago we didn't have computers we could carry in our shirt pockets....or the interwebs where data is just keystrokes away...or even the problem we're discussing.

could someone please post papers proving CO2 is causing warming?

i doubt that such papers will have sufficient weight to change minds here
you have posted that h2o vapor is an even more effective greenhouse, and if memory serves that is true
it's more about the synergy of stuff we're tossing into the air
methane is high on that list, so is nitrous oxide
not to mention the mountain of crap we're shovelling in every which way
but isolating things to just co2? not really possible, too much shit going down so to speak
 
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