I doubt it. The drug companies aren’t goin to make their nut if everyone who got the virus is off their hook.
I have seen no evidence of this myself or written. Just like any other virus, the first is the worst. Now it just washes off.
Very few things are worse the second time. I can think of only one.
My sense of smell was the first to go. I was trimming away thinking 'what have I done' then riddled all my coco and developed a new cough. It was some time later I realised I was too ill to make a will, and could probably make it to bed of the fridge. Obviously 'I aint going out like that' so fetched a beer. After some recovery I heard of this corona thing so went off to get antibiotics before that hit me. They had me in hospital the next day.
Took about 4 months to get my sense of smell right, but it's perhaps better than before. I had to get a stinking tenner out my car last week, handed to me by somebody wearing the stink. Yet as I made a fuss about it back at work, most couldn't smell it at all. This tenner that was stinking my car out so much my stomach was upset. This isn't an isolated case either.
this is interesting, for me i lost my hearing the first time round, then i got it again about 6 months later and lost my smell. strangely i could still taste my weed when smoking it, but i had no smell. i also was freaking out touching my plants before harvest and not smelling anything, thinking oh no, what have i done? really smelly stuff like Cheese smelled of nothing. it was freaky.
it also took me months and months to get my smell back, but now it seems to be changed. some shower gel smells bad to me now that i used to like just fine. its strange as most everything seems back to normal and not all shower gel has the same sour, chemical smell, some are smelling fine. freaky.
Part of the Con of Covid19 is, using the term Vaccine to refer to the experimental therapy they are marketing, using the term "vaccine".
mexcurandero420[/QUOTE said:I looked this obit up as often these type things are hoaxes.
Just a few short days after her jab, she dies of "natural causes"?
No one finds this suspicious? smh
If you are like me and have recovered from a covid-19 infection do you need the vaccine? Information available seems to say no.
First, if we look at the SARS coronavirus in general, 17 years after infection recovered individuals from SARS (2003) still have strong numbers of antibodies;
"Next, we showed that patients (n = 23) who recovered from SARS (the disease associated with SARS-CoV infection) possess long-lasting memory T cells that are reactive to the N protein of SARS-CoV 17 years after the outbreak of SARS in 2003;" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z
And specific to Covid-19 studies run on recovered individuals to forecast potential vaccine behavior have shown strong numbers of antibodies including T cells in recovered patients up to 8 months post recovery. B cells which produce new antibodies as required actually increased over time.
"After people recover from infection with a virus, the immune system retains a memory of it. Immune cells and proteins that circulate in the body can recognize and kill the pathogen if it’s encountered again, protecting against disease and reducing illness severity.
This long-term immune protection involves several components. Antibodies—proteins that circulate in the blood—recognize foreign substances like viruses and neutralize them. Different types of T cells help recognize and kill pathogens. B cells make new antibodies when the body needs them.
All of these immune-system components have been found in people who recover from SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. But the details of this immune response and how long it lasts after infection have been unclear. Scattered reports of reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 have raised concerns that the immune response to the virus might not be durable.
To better understand immune memory of SARS-CoV-2, researchers led by Drs. Daniela Weiskopf, Alessandro Sette, and Shane Crotty from the La Jolla Institute for Immunology analyzed immune cells and antibodies from almost 200 people who had been exposed to SARS-CoV-2 and recovered.
Time since infection ranged from six days after symptom onset to eight months later. More than 40 participants had been recovered for more than six months before the study began. About 50 people provided blood samples at more than one time after infection.
The research was funded in part by NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and National Cancer Institute (NCI). Results were published on January 6, 2021, in Science.
The researchers found durable immune responses in the majority of people studied. Antibodies against the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, which the virus uses to get inside cells, were found in 98% of participants one month after symptom onset. As seen in previous studies, the number of antibodies ranged widely between individuals. But, promisingly, their levels remained fairly stable over time, declining only modestly at 6 to 8 months after infection.
Virus-specific B cells increased over time. People had more memory B cells six months after symptom onset than at one month afterwards. Although the number of these cells appeared to reach a plateau after a few months, levels didn’t decline over the period studied.
Levels of T cells for the virus also remained high after infection. Six months after symptom onset, 92% of participants had CD4+ T cells that recognized the virus. These cells help coordinate the immune response. About half the participants had CD8+ T cells, which kill cells that are infected by the virus."
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-...overy-covid-19
The question which comes to mind; is my antibody lab result going to be accepted in place of a 'vaccine passport'? Maybe a question for the other thread.
having had it won't stop you getting it again, it just won't be as bad as the first time. at least thats what i gather from Swiss medic. there again its the same thing with the vaccine, you just won't get a bad case of it. so yes untill there is a vaccine that stops you getting it, having had it is just as good.
https://emergency.cdc.gov/coca/ppt/2020/Final_COCA_Call_Slides_04_16_2 020.pdfIf COVID-19 is determined to be a cause of death, it should be reported on the death certificate, likely as the underlying cause of death. – Testing should be conducted, if possible. – If a definitive diagnosis cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely, it can be reported as “probable” or “presumed.”
News 8 can verify that hospitals do get paid more for COVID-19 related cases. A provision in the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security or CARES Act pays an additional 20% on top of traditional Medicare rates during the public health emergency.
unless having it proves fatal. how many now? are we to 600,000 yet?