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Have You Been Vaccinated?

Have You Been Vaccinated?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 62 31.2%
  • No!

    Votes: 42 21.1%
  • Soon!

    Votes: 15 7.5%
  • No Way!

    Votes: 66 33.2%
  • I Just Wanna Watch!

    Votes: 14 7.0%

  • Total voters
    199

mowood3479

Active member
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I doubt it. The drug companies aren’t goin to make their nut if everyone who got the virus is off their hook.
 

BudToaster

Well-known member
Veteran
shouldn't the spike protein antibodies fade away once the covid virions are eliminated from the system - the body is pretty efficient, i.e. only turning the crank to create proteins when needed, not "just in case it happens again", that is the B cell function, to fire it up when the virus is reencountered, i.e. immunity.
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
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star crash

We Will Get By ... We Will Survive
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Yes I did ...It’s a two shot version... I got one more in less than a month ...
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gaiusmarius

me
Veteran
I have seen no evidence of this myself or written. Just like any other virus, the first is the worst. Now it just washes off.

Very few things are worse the second time. I can think of only one.

My sense of smell was the first to go. I was trimming away thinking 'what have I done' then riddled all my coco and developed a new cough. It was some time later I realised I was too ill to make a will, and could probably make it to bed of the fridge. Obviously 'I aint going out like that' so fetched a beer. After some recovery I heard of this corona thing so went off to get antibiotics before that hit me. They had me in hospital the next day.

Took about 4 months to get my sense of smell right, but it's perhaps better than before. I had to get a stinking tenner out my car last week, handed to me by somebody wearing the stink. Yet as I made a fuss about it back at work, most couldn't smell it at all. This tenner that was stinking my car out so much my stomach was upset. This isn't an isolated case either.

this is interesting, for me i lost my hearing the first time round, then i got it again about 6 months later and lost my smell. strangely i could still taste my weed when smoking it, but i had no smell. i also was freaking out touching my plants before harvest and not smelling anything, thinking oh no, what have i done? really smelly stuff like Cheese smelled of nothing. it was freaky.

it also took me months and months to get my smell back, but now it seems to be changed. some shower gel smells bad to me now that i used to like just fine. its strange as most everything seems back to normal and not all shower gel has the same sour, chemical smell, some are smelling fine. freaky.
 

flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
I cannot post the video directly, but start listening to this attractive MD at 6:00. https://www.investorvillage.com/smbd...g&mid=21882357

The part I find scary is that this has never been used in humans before, yet they are all pushing for people to let it in their bodies. Over what? Nobody is sick.

Show me a test for the antibodies we develop against BS fever. There is none that I have heard of.
 

tobedetermined

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Premium user
ICMag Donor
Up here in Canukistan, the vaccine rollout has been slow. We are at the mercy of supply since we aren’t a producing country. Last week it burst open a bit as we received some Astra from the US (thanks btw) and other shipments arrived from UK, Europe, India etc. After a week of confusion, it appears that our pharmacies (including big box pharms) have started using the Astra while the gov’t centres are slinging the others - Pfizer & Moderna (and J&J when it arrives). My age bracket slot opened up a few days ago for both avenues & we hurriedly made an app’t at a centre & I happily got a Pfizer jab last night. I head for surgery tomorrow – which doesn’t thrill me during a pandemic – but I feel much better knowing that the vax is at least starting to work before I lose all my control of my personal protection in the hospital.

Btw . . . when are those blue screen of death nightmares supposed to start? :rasta:
 

f-e

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Veteran
this is interesting, for me i lost my hearing the first time round, then i got it again about 6 months later and lost my smell. strangely i could still taste my weed when smoking it, but i had no smell. i also was freaking out touching my plants before harvest and not smelling anything, thinking oh no, what have i done? really smelly stuff like Cheese smelled of nothing. it was freaky.

it also took me months and months to get my smell back, but now it seems to be changed. some shower gel smells bad to me now that i used to like just fine. its strange as most everything seems back to normal and not all shower gel has the same sour, chemical smell, some are smelling fine. freaky.

Such a similar experience. Has it been long? After a couple of months I was thinking my sense of smell existed but was barely half what it was, with things just not what they were. It was perhaps 6 months before familiar smells were common enough occurrences for me to be happy with what I had. 9 months to think I'm back to normal. From what I remember.. as my memory will of undergone some alteration through smelling things and forcing the connection. A learning process I can't really numerate as it's unconscious behaviour.

Hope things work out for you. Smell and taste are basically the same thing with different wiring routes from the olfactory glands to the area of brain brain that does the processing. It tells us a bit about what went on. Disturbingly, something in our brain.
 

St. Phatty

Active member
Part of the Con of Covid19 is, using the term Vaccine to refer to the experimental therapy they are marketing, using the term "vaccine".
 

imiubu

Well-known member
mexcurandero420[/QUOTE said:
I looked this obit up as often these type things are hoaxes.
Just a few short days after her jab, she dies of "natural causes"?
No one finds this suspicious? smh
 
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gaiusmarius

me
Veteran
If you are like me and have recovered from a covid-19 infection do you need the vaccine? Information available seems to say no.

First, if we look at the SARS coronavirus in general, 17 years after infection recovered individuals from SARS (2003) still have strong numbers of antibodies;

"Next, we showed that patients (n = 23) who recovered from SARS (the disease associated with SARS-CoV infection) possess long-lasting memory T cells that are reactive to the N protein of SARS-CoV 17 years after the outbreak of SARS in 2003;" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z

And specific to Covid-19 studies run on recovered individuals to forecast potential vaccine behavior have shown strong numbers of antibodies including T cells in recovered patients up to 8 months post recovery. B cells which produce new antibodies as required actually increased over time.



"After people recover from infection with a virus, the immune system retains a memory of it. Immune cells and proteins that circulate in the body can recognize and kill the pathogen if it’s encountered again, protecting against disease and reducing illness severity.

This long-term immune protection involves several components. Antibodies—proteins that circulate in the blood—recognize foreign substances like viruses and neutralize them. Different types of T cells help recognize and kill pathogens. B cells make new antibodies when the body needs them.

All of these immune-system components have been found in people who recover from SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. But the details of this immune response and how long it lasts after infection have been unclear. Scattered reports of reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 have raised concerns that the immune response to the virus might not be durable.

To better understand immune memory of SARS-CoV-2, researchers led by Drs. Daniela Weiskopf, Alessandro Sette, and Shane Crotty from the La Jolla Institute for Immunology analyzed immune cells and antibodies from almost 200 people who had been exposed to SARS-CoV-2 and recovered.

Time since infection ranged from six days after symptom onset to eight months later. More than 40 participants had been recovered for more than six months before the study began. About 50 people provided blood samples at more than one time after infection.

The research was funded in part by NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and National Cancer Institute (NCI). Results were published on January 6, 2021, in Science.

The researchers found durable immune responses in the majority of people studied. Antibodies against the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, which the virus uses to get inside cells, were found in 98% of participants one month after symptom onset. As seen in previous studies, the number of antibodies ranged widely between individuals. But, promisingly, their levels remained fairly stable over time, declining only modestly at 6 to 8 months after infection.

Virus-specific B cells increased over time. People had more memory B cells six months after symptom onset than at one month afterwards. Although the number of these cells appeared to reach a plateau after a few months, levels didn’t decline over the period studied.

Levels of T cells for the virus also remained high after infection. Six months after symptom onset, 92% of participants had CD4+ T cells that recognized the virus. These cells help coordinate the immune response. About half the participants had CD8+ T cells, which kill cells that are infected by the virus."
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-...overy-covid-19

The question which comes to mind; is my antibody lab result going to be accepted in place of a 'vaccine passport'? Maybe a question for the other thread.

having had it won't stop you getting it again, it just won't be as bad as the first time. at least thats what i gather from Swiss medic. there again its the same thing with the vaccine, you just won't get a bad case of it. so yes untill there is a vaccine that stops you getting it, having had it is just as good.
 
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armedoldhippy

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having had it won't stop you getting it again, it just won't be as bad as the first time. at least thats what i gather from Swiss medic. there again its the same thing with the vaccine, you just won't get a bad case of it. so yes untill there is a vaccine that stops you getting it, having had it is just as good.

unless having it proves fatal. how many now? are we to 600,000 yet?
 

Doctor M

Active member
CDC COVID 19 Death coding is an easy way to reach whatever death toll you need to induce fear in a population incapable of critical thinking.

If COVID-19 is determined to be a cause of death, it should be reported on the death certificate, likely as the underlying cause of death. – Testing should be conducted, if possible. – If a definitive diagnosis cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely, it can be reported as “probable” or “presumed.”
https://emergency.cdc.gov/coca/ppt/2020/Final_COCA_Call_Slides_04_16_2 020.pdf

Combined with a financial incentive...

News 8 can verify that hospitals do get paid more for COVID-19 related cases. A provision in the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security or CARES Act pays an additional 20% on top of traditional Medicare rates during the public health emergency.


Fear Porn History repeating.........

 

BudToaster

Well-known member
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the first 100,000 deaths or so were due to bad medical procedures - like ventilators which killed most of those hooked up. bring back the leaches - to suck out the poisons.
 

Microbeman

The Logical Gardener
ICMag Donor
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I get the feeling from comments posted that some believe that a vaccine works like a force field, off of which pathogens bounce. My take, which I believe is accurate > Someone vaccinated against measles [for example], still can be 'infected' by the virus however the immune system has been 'primed' by the vaccine to immediately recognize and destroy the virus (B & T lymphocytes). There is even some possibility that a vaccinated person can pass the measles (rubeola) virus to another person. Similar to the covid virus this aspect is not fully understood (best of my knowledge).

This applies to virtually all vaccines.
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
Follow the English YT doctor since end of January last year, but he is sick at the moment like fever, sore throat etc.He got his jab last February.He said yesterday he'll be back common Monday.Lets hope so.
 

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