Have You Been Vaccinated?

[imiubu]

I already had the 4 hour version of Covid19.

Why would I get an experimental treatment, marketed by an industrial machine with a long history of deep-sixing Adverse Effects (from multiple Western medical technologies), fraudulently labelled a vaccine ? To demonstrate my obedience to a dishonest sociopathic group of strangers ?

My sentiments also.

 

[mexcurandero420]

Severe reaction to the J&J vaccine

[video]https://www.wric.com/news/local-news/goochland-county-man-suffers-rare-severe-reaction-to-covid-19-vaccine/[/video]

 

[sdd420]

My appointment is Friday for the first dose I’m happy to go

 

[Doctor M]

Curses on you Dr. M for sidetracking me from my work this morning. You better get a guesthouse at your Florida digs Here is what I believe the hoophoorah about Mullis comes from;

"Kary Mullis … is thoroughly convinced that HIV is not the cause of AIDS. With regard to the viral-load tests, which attempt to use PCR for counting viruses, Mullis has stated: “Quantitative PCR is an oxymoron.” PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral-load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV. The tests can detect genetic sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves"

I took it from a retracted article https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172096/

Here is the interview with Mullis which I referenced; https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/ch...anscript-1993/

I'd be interested to see the interview you referenced.

Here is a link to an article by the associate or critic/writer, John Lauritsen I referenced as likely being the source of the PCR not working for viruses statement. https://link.springer.com/content/pd...-1651-7_25.pdf

My opinion is that PCR testing has been responsible for many false positives, as antibody testing has been for false negatives. IMO this is due to technician error in not using these tests at the correct timing or as designed. As Mullis stated PCR is for protein detection and genetic sequencing pertaining to viruses and this would be its correct use related to SARS-2.

The antigen test using swabbed fluids [usually] looks for proteins [similar to PCR] produced [like a pregnancy test] but can also produced false negatives. It is a bit of a shit show with many poorly trained technicians doing the testing. Where I am presently it is about the money paid for the tests. I think that samples properly taken and tested result in fairly accurate results.​

A nationwide standard for cycle thresholds for the PCR test is needed. Fauci said anything over 35 is useless, I've heard anything over 25 is useless. CDC recommends 40 cycles and some states are doing as many as 45.

https://youtu.be/a_Vy6fgaBPE?t=230


Kary Mullis on Fauci "He doesn't know anything about anything"




https://www.bitchute.com/video/hfzL5gUeQvxr/

 

[1G12]

Second poke next week....can't come soon enough.

 

[Doctor M]

Second poke next week....can't come soon enough.

Good luck with the future autoimmune diseases

 

[1G12]

Good luck with the future autoimmune diseases

Total nonsense!

 

[Doctor M]

Total nonsense!

Moderna’s promise — and the more than $2 billion it raised before going public in 2018 — hinged on creating a fleet of mRNA medicines that could be safely dosed over and over. But behind the scenes the company’s scientists were running into a familiar problem. In animal studies, the ideal dose of their leading mRNA therapy was triggering dangerous immune reactions — the kind for which Karikó had improvised a major workaround under some conditions — but a lower dose had proved too weak to show any benefits.
https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10...leading-technology-in-the-covid-vaccine-race/

 

[Doctor M]

Nonsense said the person who hasn't spent 10 minute researching the shit being injected in to him.


Could mRNA COVID-19 vaccines be dangerous in the long-term?

But he acknowledged that there are unique and unknown risks to messenger RNA vaccines, including local and systemic inflammatory responses that could lead to autoimmune conditions.

https://www.jpost.com/health-science/could-an-mrna-vaccine-be-dangerous-in-the-long-term-649253



Lavishly funded Moderna hits safety problems in bold bid to revolutionize medicine

​​​​​​https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/10/moderna-trouble-mrna/

​​​​​​Right before winning federal funding for COVID vaccine development in March 2020, only 3 of Moderna's projects had made it past Phase 1 testing, and only one of these was a vaccine (a cytomegalovirus vaccine codenamed mRNA-1647).

​​​​​​https://web.archive.org/web/20200221035219/https://www.modernatx.com/pipeline


​​​​​​Why This Secretive Tech Start-Up Could Be The Next Theranos

​​​​​​https://www.thrillist.com/tech/nati...apeutics-do-why-is-it-a-silicon-valley-secret




​​​​​​At the heart of the new vaccines is special mRNA that has been engineered to contain instructions on how to make a fragment of the “spike protein” unique to SARS-CoV-2 a.k.a COVID-19. The spike protein comprises those surface spikes you see in commonly depicted pictures of a COVID-19 virus molecule.

​​​​​​This customized mRNA is given a special coating that will aid its entry into cells. In the case of the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, this coating consists of liposomes and a chemical called polyethylene glycol (PEG). PEG has never been used before in an approved vaccine, but is found in many drugs that have triggered anaphylaxis — a potentially life-threatening reaction that can cause rashes, plummeting blood pressure, shortness of breath, and rapid heartbeat.

 

[Microbeman]

A nationwide standard for cycle thresholds for the PCR test is needed. Fauci said anything over 35 is useless, I've heard anything over 25 is useless. CDC recommends 40 cycles and some states are doing as many as 45.

https://youtu.be/a_Vy6fgaBPE?t=230


Kary Mullis on Fauci "He doesn't know anything about anything"




https://www.bitchute.com/video/hfzL5gUeQvxr/

I'm certainly no lover of Fauci and don't care what Mullis thought of him but I'm disappointed you would use an edited cut out video to support a twisted view. The original video is from a 1996 interview and he is criticizing Fauci about HIV and microscopy; hardly about covid. Criminal Cabal!!! What a joke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ogPbJzqtZM

https://archive.org/details/kary-mullis-the-full-interview-by-gary-null-1996

 

[Amynamous]

Ive been volunteering at a local vaccination clinic since my state began vaccinating the public. I suppose that made me a “front line” person even though i am retired. In doing so, i was able to receive the vaccine immediately. Just throwing that out there in case anyone wants to try that in their area.

 

[mexcurandero420]

First victim of lung embolism after AstraZeneca vaccine in the Netherlands.

 

[St. Phatty]

First victim of lung embolism after AstraZeneca vaccine in the Netherlands.

Makes me wonder if there is an element of Suicide-ality in common behaviors like smoking Tobacco cigs & getting vaccines.

 

[BudToaster]

First victim of lung embolism after AstraZeneca vaccine in the Netherlands.

i'm not a doctor, but i read a lot of medical articles and journals and biochem is beginning to make some sense to me. i wonder if the injection is going into a vein, and the vaccine DNA adenovirus carrier is getting into platelets (there are receptors for adenovirus on the platelet membrane - or so i read) and cranking out spikes that emerge on the membrane, thereby signaling the immune system to destroy platelets. very rare occurrence of clotting, so could just be an unfortunate injection spot. them's the breaks, eh?

 

[mexcurandero420]

i'm not a doctor, but i read a lot of medical articles and journals and biochem is beginning to make some sense to me. i wonder if the injection is going into a vein, and the vaccine DNA adenovirus carrier is getting into platelets (there are receptors for adenovirus on the platelet membrane - or so i read) and cranking out spikes that emerge on the membrane, thereby signaling the immune system to destroy platelets. very rare occurrence of clotting, so could just be an unfortunate injection spot. them's the breaks, eh?

In the Netherlands we have Lareb which examines the side effects of registrated medication and now also the covid vaccines just like VAERS in the US and they brought it today into the news.

What you say could be a possibility.

 

[Gry]

The role of cycle threshold values in infectious disease diagnostics

https://www.mlo-online.com/continui...hold-values-in-infectious-disease-diagnostics

 

[Doctor M]

Results of the study: COVID-19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated. Vaccines for SARS, MERS and RSV have never been approved, and the data generated in the development and testing of these vaccines suggest a serious mechanistic concern: that vaccines designed empirically using the traditional approach (consisting of the unmodified or minimally modified coronavirus viral spike to elicit neutralising antibodies), be they composed of protein, viral vector, DNA or RNA and irrespective of delivery method, may worsen COVID-19 disease via antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). This risk is sufficiently obscured in clinical trial protocols and consent forms for ongoing COVID-19 vaccine trials that adequate patient comprehension of this risk is unlikely to occur, obviating truly informed consent by subjects in these trials.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/

 

[CaptainDankness]

I heard a decent idea - Covid passports as voter id.

Yeah, only because Trump 2024!! I certainly don't think Biden is doing any better. He supposedly supports decriminalization of marijuana though, but he also wants to hand medical marijuana over to GW/Bayer/Monsanto. Meanwhile you can get CBD enriched seeds and can grow it in as little as 3 months and for almost free outdoors.

 

[GMT]

i'm not a doctor, but i read a lot of medical articles and journals and biochem is beginning to make some sense to me. i wonder if the injection is going into a vein, and the vaccine DNA adenovirus carrier is getting into platelets (there are receptors for adenovirus on the platelet membrane - or so i read) and cranking out spikes that emerge on the membrane, thereby signaling the immune system to destroy platelets. very rare occurrence of clotting, so could just be an unfortunate injection spot. them's the breaks, eh?

No its not going into a vein but instead into muscle tissue. But it will slowly get into the bloodstream like everything does. However destroying platelets will not cause clotting, it would prevent it.

 

[Microbeman]

If you are like me and have recovered from a covid-19 infection do you need the vaccine? Information available seems to say no.

First, if we look at the SARS coronavirus in general, 17 years after infection recovered individuals from SARS (2003) still have strong numbers of antibodies;

"Next, we showed that patients (n = 23) who recovered from SARS (the disease associated with SARS-CoV infection) possess long-lasting memory T cells that are reactive to the N protein of SARS-CoV 17 years after the outbreak of SARS in 2003;" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2550-z

And specific to Covid-19 studies run on recovered individuals to forecast potential vaccine behavior have shown strong numbers of antibodies including T cells in recovered patients up to 8 months post recovery. B cells which produce new antibodies as required actually increased over time.



"After people recover from infection with a virus, the immune system retains a memory of it. Immune cells and proteins that circulate in the body can recognize and kill the pathogen if it’s encountered again, protecting against disease and reducing illness severity.

This long-term immune protection involves several components. Antibodies—proteins that circulate in the blood—recognize foreign substances like viruses and neutralize them. Different types of T cells help recognize and kill pathogens. B cells make new antibodies when the body needs them.

All of these immune-system components have been found in people who recover from SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. But the details of this immune response and how long it lasts after infection have been unclear. Scattered reports of reinfection with SARS-CoV-2 have raised concerns that the immune response to the virus might not be durable.

To better understand immune memory of SARS-CoV-2, researchers led by Drs. Daniela Weiskopf, Alessandro Sette, and Shane Crotty from the La Jolla Institute for Immunology analyzed immune cells and antibodies from almost 200 people who had been exposed to SARS-CoV-2 and recovered.

Time since infection ranged from six days after symptom onset to eight months later. More than 40 participants had been recovered for more than six months before the study began. About 50 people provided blood samples at more than one time after infection.

The research was funded in part by NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and National Cancer Institute (NCI). Results were published on January 6, 2021, in Science.

The researchers found durable immune responses in the majority of people studied. Antibodies against the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, which the virus uses to get inside cells, were found in 98% of participants one month after symptom onset. As seen in previous studies, the number of antibodies ranged widely between individuals. But, promisingly, their levels remained fairly stable over time, declining only modestly at 6 to 8 months after infection.

Virus-specific B cells increased over time. People had more memory B cells six months after symptom onset than at one month afterwards. Although the number of these cells appeared to reach a plateau after a few months, levels didn’t decline over the period studied.

Levels of T cells for the virus also remained high after infection. Six months after symptom onset, 92% of participants had CD4+ T cells that recognized the virus. These cells help coordinate the immune response. About half the participants had CD8+ T cells, which kill cells that are infected by the virus."
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/lasting-immunity-found-after-recovery-covid-19

The question which comes to mind; is my antibody lab result going to be accepted in place of a 'vaccine passport'? Maybe a question for the other thread.