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Have You Been Vaccinated?

Have You Been Vaccinated?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 63 31.3%

  • No!

    Votes: 43 21.4%

  • Soon!

    Votes: 15 7.5%

  • No Way!

    Votes: 66 32.8%

  • I Just Wanna Watch!

    Votes: 14 7.0%
  • Total voters
    201
TNTBudSticker

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#COVID19 "breakthrough cases" have canceled tonight's performance of "Aladdin" on Broadway just one day after the show reopened for the first time in 18 months.
 
entropical

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It appears that vaccine efficacy is down to a mere 15 percent within only 7 months after a second injection. All to be compared with a lasting natural immunity that retains high levels of antibodies even a full year after infection. It really does not compare at all.
 
gaiusmarius

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entropical said:
It appears that vaccine efficacy is down to a mere 15 percent within only 7 months after a second injection. All to be compared with a lasting natural immunity that retains high levels of antibodies even a full year after infection. It really does not compare at all.
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i saw that data from Israel about natural immunity. if you think about the way the body creates immunity, it never made any sense that natural immunity would be worse then mrna induced immunity, which relies on only creating immunity to the spike protein. a natural infection exposes your body to the whole complex virus sequence, meaning your immune system has way more to work with and a way easier time recognising mutations and fighting them in future.
 
audiohi

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gaiusmarius said:
Harvard business school shuts down due to a surge of covid in their 100% vaccinated facility. what a great vaccine eh. useless to stop the spread by the looks of the data coming in recently more and more.

Harvard Business School SHUTS DOWN Classes Despite 100% Vaccination Rate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uurGOOBOtjM

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How many 100% vaccinated were hospitalized and/or died?


62% are virgins. Lol.

Is that video about "Harvard Business School" MBA student vaccination, or "Harvard" freshman class not having sex and voting more for the green party than for trump?


Your video is more opinion on social issues than vaccine data, eh?
 
gaiusmarius

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audiohi said:
How many 100% vaccinated were hospitalized and/or died?


62% are virgins. Lol. That first video frame looks legit.
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so the vaccine only protects you then? is that your point? if so, we agree. so stop demonising the unvaccinated, they can't hurt you any more or less then anyone else.
 
h.h.

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entropical said:
It appears that vaccine efficacy is down to a mere 15 percent within only 7 months after a second injection. All to be compared with a lasting natural immunity that retains high levels of antibodies even a full year after infection. It really does not compare at all.
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Perhaps a vaccination to keep so many folks from dying while they acquire natural immunity as recent studies suggest? Have you not read those. I’ve posted a few. I know others have. Use your favorite search engine. Seek you’ll find.

If the virus had spread naturally, it would have been localized. We live in the age of globalization. Products and diseases are imported from around the world. Natural immunity alone never had a chance. Folks were and are still needlessly dying or dead.
 
h.h.

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Conclusions This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
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https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1

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This study found that among Kentucky residents who were previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 in 2020, those who were unvaccinated against COVID-19 had significantly higher likelihood of reinfection during May and June 2021. This finding supports the CDC recommendation that all eligible persons be offered COVID-19 vaccination, regardless of previous SARS-CoV-2 infection status.
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https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm?s_cid=mm7032e1_w
 
gaiusmarius

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NY to fire 70k of the 416 k heroic health care workers that fought on the front line against covid for nearly 2 years, now they are to be made jobless with no right to unemployment. nice.

NY Governor To Fire 70 THOUSAND Healthcare Workers Over Vaccine Mandate!

 
entropical

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gaiusmarius said:
i saw that data from Israel about natural immunity. if you think about the way the body creates immunity, it never made any sense that natural immunity would be worse then mrna induced immunity, which relies on only creating immunity to the spike protein. a natural infection exposes your body to the whole complex virus sequence, meaning your immune system has way more to work with and a way easier time recognising mutations and fighting them in future.
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When has vaccine immunity ever been shown to offer a better protection than a natural immunity? I can not think of even one example in history that this has ever been the case. Maybe someone else could, who knows. In either case it does not apply here. Add to that an infection fatality rate of 0.05 percent among those below 70 years of age. Why then would you have politicians tell you that you have to get it, and why would they cause you to loose your job for not getting it? I see two reasons: money and power. That is what they care about.
 
Switcher56

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gaiusmarius said:
i saw that data from Israel about natural immunity. if you think about the way the body creates immunity, it never made any sense that natural immunity would be worse then mrna induced immunity, which relies on only creating immunity to the spike protein. a natural infection exposes your body to the whole complex virus sequence, meaning your immune system has way more to work with and a way easier time recognizing mutations and fighting them in future.
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+1
 
audiohi

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gaiusmarius said:
so the vaccine only protects you then? is that your point? if so, we agree. so stop demonising the unvaccinated, they can't hurt you any more or less then anyone else.
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Generally, yes. I would say vaccines protect the vaccinated person with potentially additional benefits for others. “Potentially” relies on other factors in my opinion.

I mean… I got vaccinated to protect myself (and hopefully my loved ones). So… here's to hoping. Wait, they're vaccinated and protected, too.


This was actually my point. I just hit post a little too quickly.
audiohi said:
How many 100% vaccinated were hospitalized and/or died?


62% are virgins. Lol.


Is that video about "Harvard Business School" MBA student vaccination, or "Harvard" freshman class not having sex and voting more for the green party than for trump?


Your video is more opinion on social issues than vaccine data, eh?
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audiohi

audiohi

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gaiusmarius said:
NY to fire 70k of the 416 k heroic health care workers that fought on the front line against covid for nearly 2 years, now they are to be made jobless with no right to unemployment. nice.

NY Governor To Fire 70 THOUSAND Healthcare Workers Over Vaccine Mandate!

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Do cops next!

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