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Have You Been Vaccinated?

Have You Been Vaccinated?

  • Yes!

    Votes: 63 31.3%
  • No!

    Votes: 43 21.4%
  • Soon!

    Votes: 15 7.5%
  • No Way!

    Votes: 66 32.8%
  • I Just Wanna Watch!

    Votes: 14 7.0%

  • Total voters
    201

armedoldhippy

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Do you know what an anecdote is?
Nothing in that can be verified, and even if it was true, statistically you are much better off being vaccinated, than not. You have less chance of catching the virus, spreading it, and getting very sick and dying from it. Are vaccines 100% effective? No, they aren't. Some who are vaccinated will still get ill, some will die, but overall you are much better off vaxed.

statistics, lol. might as well use reason and facts. they're not interested in those either, lol. i read somewhere that nearly 90% of statistics are made up on the spot...😀
 

audiohi

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JUST IN - Harvard Business School moves classes online as #COVID19 "breakthrough" cases soar despite a 95% vaccination rate among students and staff.

How many were hospitalized?

You must know that statistic as well, right?

More than 1,000 students are enrolled in the business school’s class of 2023.

The university administered 41,864 Covid tests from Sept. 20 to Sept. 25 and found that graduate students comprised 60 of the 74 positive test results recorded over those six days.

How many people is 5% (unvaccinated) out of 1,000 ?
 

buzzmobile

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I did order one from Wish dot com, but they sent me women's undies with fake silicone butt cheeks instead.
Did they fit? I heard they ran small.
I keep a pair of double barrel 1911s close by during bat season. Much smaller holes to patch.
batgun.gif
 

gaiusmarius

me
Veteran
the mask things is simple, it can help in some circumstances, but not when you have prolonged sharing of air. its logical masks are not needed for brief daily interactions (under 5 mins) and they don't protect you in prolonged interaction inside. so the only use is for those interactions in the middle. ie a 20 min train ride or some such shortish time in an enclosed space. but any more then 40 mins or so and the mask is no longer doing anything as the air in the enclosed space becomes to heavy with the virus (if there is a covid case in the space) and will get to you past the mask. you are better off focusing on airing out regularly and co2 meters and hepa air filtration. there are countless cases of out breaks documented in facilities with full mask mandates, for anyone to think they are actually doing much. but like i say, they do have some use, its only logical.
 

gaiusmarius

me
Veteran
Hazard group 4 (HG 4): Biological agent that causes severe human disease and is a serious hazard to employees and it is likely to spread to the community and there is usually no effective prophylaxis or treatment available.

sounds like covid19 checks all those boxes.
 

h.h.

Active member
Veteran
Ventilation is more important than masks. I can’t count on ventilation.
With that, since getting vaxed I hardly wear a mask. I generally shop early and avoid crowds. I keep a distance and I don’t breath on anybody. Getting gas in Indian country, they asked me to put one on, which I gladly did. I did wonder how one could buy gas(cash) without a mask or buy a mask without a mask so they could buy gas. I’d like to see them at the door. I’d also like to see clean shopping carts..
Much easier mandating customers to wear masks than it is to mandate commercial establishments to update their ventilation. The change will come in the building codes. That will take time.
In many situations the mask is still the best we got. Watching the trends. If things get worst, I’ll put mine back on. I do believe in some exposure to the elements. Just not stupidly so.
 

Cannavore

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https://twitter.com/JonGordon11/stat...32437872402433

Talked to a 30 year old at the gym. She was at a party with all vaccinated friends. She is unvaccinated. Has natural immunity. A few days later one of the friends tested positive. Everyone then got tested and they all had covid except her. Seems more common that vaxxed transmit.

so an asymptomatic unvaxxed person with "natural immunities" got vaccinated people sick at a party.

this is exactly why people are advocating everyone of age recieve the vaccine lol.

the variants are mutating in the unvaccinated and is making the vaccine less and less effective, causing the call for booster shots and mandates, which anti vaxxers then get mad about even though they are the ones driving all of this now. it's a stupidity feedback loop of epic proportions.
 

Gry

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Ventilation is more important than masks. I can’t count on ventilation.
With that, since getting vaxed I hardly wear a mask. I generally shop early and avoid crowds. I keep a distance and I don’t breath on anybody. Getting gas in Indian country, they asked me to put one on, which I gladly did. I did wonder how one could buy gas(cash) without a mask or buy a mask without a mask so they could buy gas. I’d like to see them at the door. I’d also like to see clean shopping carts..
Much easier mandating customers to wear masks than it is to mandate commercial establishments to update their ventilation. The change will come in the building codes. That will take time.
In many situations the mask is still the best we got. Watching the trends. If things get worst, I’ll put mine back on. I do believe in some exposure to the elements. Just not stupidly so.

Been disgusted to see virtually no change to air exchange systems anywhere.
Would like to have seen that done first in public schools.
May have made it easier to sell the idea of reopening schools.
 

Gry

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moose eater

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Very powerful and touching.
Heard a night mare of a story this morning over a older man who broke a leg,
but then died a terrible nightmarish death, as a result of local
hospitals being filled by those who had the virus.
Hospitals in four states were called, and every one was full.

Alaska had over 4,000 confirmed infections this last weekend, and over 40 deaths, the youngest of which was in her 30s. We have (arguably) about 720,000 people in the entire State.

Like with old-age homes (what are often dubbed 'Pioneer Homes here), a short stay for ANY sort of injury can amount to a death sentence due to the prevalence now of COVID infections. A senior had a fall, went into assisted care for a brief period, and you can guess the rest.

Attitude toward those who helped to make this what it is through conspiracy-lunacy and refusal to cooperate with basic policy requests like masking and distancing?? FUCK-TONS! I don't cut the miscreants ANY slack in my space in public. None.
 

h.h.

Active member
Veteran
Been disgusted to see virtually no change to air exchange systems anywhere.
Would like to have seen that done first in public schools.
May have made it easier to sell the idea of reopening schools.
A jet has a ceiling to floor air flow. That seems to be very efficient. Opening a window or updraft fans would seem productive as well as counterproductive in that the falling droplets were instead circulated in the room before exiting. Retrofitting downdraft fans in the floors of many buildings. They’re going to fight it.
Easier to lower the building capacity. Or better yet, put it on the consumer.
 

Gry

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We are told the market always delivers what is needed.
One might think that at such a time we would see a number of new low cost and innovative ways of
improving the ventilation for buildings.
All I have seen thus far is big pharma targeting public health.
 

Chi13

Well-known member
ICMag Donor
Been disgusted to see virtually no change to air exchange systems anywhere.
Would like to have seen that done first in public schools.
May have made it easier to sell the idea of reopening schools.

There's been recent talk here of putting air purifyers in every classroom. Not a bad idea regardless of the virus, as indoor air is not as healthy as we would presume.
 

Switcher56

Comfortably numb!
We are told the market always delivers what is needed.
One might think that at such a time we would see a number of new low cost and innovative ways of
improving the ventilation for buildings.
All I have seen thus far is big pharma targeting public health.

Treat the air inside buildings the same way we grow. 30+ exchange/hr (to the outside). Air coming into building, via UV filters/plenums. Govt could learn a lot from us renegades :biggrin:
 
M

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Well, i got my first Pfizer vaccine shot today.... apart from the ear that instantaneously started growing out of my forehead, i haven't noticed any side effects....

:peek:

I spoke too soon.... didn't feel too great the next day.... headache, light headed, mild fever kind of feeling....

Nothing extreme, but definitely not a great feeling. Still feel a little achey today but less than yesterday.
 

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