kids brought some home. nasty shit!
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well, that's one thing, advice.
it takes years of lurking to figure out who is full of shit and who is not! so much good & bad advice given freely. not pointed at u mm, you just brought up a good point.
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Haha! No he didn't but I would advise it. I don't mind your help. You're nice even after a disagreement as we don't always have to agree.
Mojave, tell them that's no caviar. I asked jokingly if they even sell it and people do?!?!
Doesn't bother me one way or the other.When I see there's no use wasting my time I back out and let the cycle continue.
Then you say-"[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Why would you give someone free pot every single time[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]? A whole oz too?[/FONT]"
Well that's giving back right? That's what you're going on about right? What does it matter how much i pass out. Had what I needed. All 3 of those patients were in pain and bedridden and knocking on[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] deaths door. Literally close to death. They decided the money was more important than the meds and chose to sale it. Never again. They fucked it up for everyone else. Can't help that but did learn from it. I'm a nice guy with a big heart that was lending a hand but won't be taken advantage of. Needing extra so soon is what clued me in.
Then-"[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This ones not as bad as the last one where he told me to fuck my man with a strap on."
That's not completely in the context of how it was typed in your thread now was it? But hey, sensationalize it all ya like.
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Greed is in the consumer too.....We have all seen someone clean house and not give a thought about doing so. Was chatting someone up in the lobby, and she happened to mention the edible lady is inside......I kinda cocked my head and asked who is she? She will ransack and clean house of all the good potent edibles. Shit, I never want to be that guy or gal.
Was looking at some bho recently...min she said last one I didn't want it; based on principles. said it looks good, but I got a good supply. Next guy in line bought it. I am sure I made that dudes day if he didn't have the means to make bho himself and or was running low. I am sitting on 4-5 grams of oil. with herb to make more in need be. I come from a state that has had a med shortage in the area before I moved here.
Recently the place I go for oil and herb used to charge $65 a gram for bho. They recently lowered it to $60 and are selling $80 a gram using (trade secrets)...Is it worth it...to me NO. There is a yield loss, and some minimal work involved; and that's why it is marked up. I got all the gear to pull it off. I think I may have sampled the prototype at $65 a gram....and I swear it came with an evil troll that smoked my oil when I wasn't looking
That stuff went quick cuz it was so smooth. I like a prefer a little more bite to my oil. I say hell yea..as long a quality stays there...you just made med more affordable to patients at 60 a gram...high five!!! If I got the coin, its a strain that I interest me and it looks like a magical bho unicorn pooped it out. I might give it a go. 
Was looking at some bho recently...min she said last one I didn't want it; based on principles. said it looks good, but I got a good supply. Next guy in line bought it. I am sure I made that dudes day if he didn't have the means to make bho himself and or was running low. I am sitting on 4-5 grams of oil. with herb to make more in need be. I come from a state that has had a med shortage in the area before I moved here.
Recently the place I go for oil and herb used to charge $65 a gram for bho. They recently lowered it to $60 and are selling $80 a gram using (trade secrets)...Is it worth it...to me NO. There is a yield loss, and some minimal work involved; and that's why it is marked up. I got all the gear to pull it off. I think I may have sampled the prototype at $65 a gram....and I swear it came with an evil troll that smoked my oil when I wasn't looking
That stuff went quick cuz it was so smooth. I like a prefer a little more bite to my oil. I say hell yea..as long a quality stays there...you just made med more affordable to patients at 60 a gram...high five!!! If I got the coin, its a strain that I interest me and it looks like a magical bho unicorn pooped it out. I might give it a go. Former Guest
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well resin, I'm really sorry you got taken advantage of so severely. one can only hope that they needed the money since they were bed ridden with kids and chose that over pain management. yes that is a way of paying it forward but I don't want people being taken advantage of either so I guess that's what I'm saying. when you get taken advantage of, you tend to get resentful and find the whole process unattractive which was part of mikells point. don't be overly generous because you feel taken advantage of. part of giving in a relationship is a back and forth give/take and the both are supposed to work in a way that is harmonious. when out of whack like it is right now, there is unrest, anger, resentment and then you get a big thread on here with a bunch of pissed of little guys and a tiny proportion of commercial growers (albeit most the ratio on here is a little off base in comparison to total card holders).
vapor made an excellent point about getting out into your community to let people know about how legalization would work well for their community, benefits to changing laws and such. I think instead of trying to focus on making growing an easier ordeal and instead work on public policy by speaking at the Judiciary House of Legislation when voting on such things and contact NORML to see about getting something going. who knows what type of response i'll get. tried once with wounded warrior org to see about getting info to start a therapy dog training program for vets and kill shelter dogs but got no replies. I'm not done with that idea yet as I've been a little side tracked with growing but this wouldn't be so distracting as it fits right in...hrm
new life plan?
vapor made an excellent point about getting out into your community to let people know about how legalization would work well for their community, benefits to changing laws and such. I think instead of trying to focus on making growing an easier ordeal and instead work on public policy by speaking at the Judiciary House of Legislation when voting on such things and contact NORML to see about getting something going. who knows what type of response i'll get. tried once with wounded warrior org to see about getting info to start a therapy dog training program for vets and kill shelter dogs but got no replies. I'm not done with that idea yet as I've been a little side tracked with growing but this wouldn't be so distracting as it fits right in...hrm
new life plan?
NV Norml is a total joke. Legislature here is also. Passed a law saying patients can't grow once a dispensary opens within 25 mile of them. Our constitution states we have the right to use and possess the plant. The whole plant not just pieces and parts. They know the law is illegal but they are counting on no one challenging it in court. .
I wrote the beer bit as an analogy about the habits of the strawmen that pander that particular type of nonsense. Money is of no use or function to them other than to supply others with the means to support them.
Hand outs depend on the person. If it's an angry drunk lying in a puddle of piss, drooling all over himself, eat a bag of dicks my friend. Hey now brother, that may be just the line of work for you..
A group of punks travelling on the bum, vaguely looking like zombies, flying a sign emblazoned with "Spare Brains?", hell yeah, here's a pre-rolled or some other pocket treasure.
They are different, no arguement there. What I meant is that I find there to be a common thread in a large percentage of reactions/perceptions towards anyone that falls in to any of those columns. A tendency to look for faults, character/personality flaws, relish in their failures, etc. along that vein. A little armchair anthropology, gleaned from observations of the large population of Full Time Humans on the West Coast, and myself obviously.
What folks? These folk? This feels dangerously close to a Cosmo questionnaire.
Wildly off topic, but this thread is like an octopus anyhow.
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it is VERY easy to speak to the house when they are deciding on such matters. they give you two to three minutes to speak and everyone signs up before the day starts. the amount of people who show up really helps determine the response. i would highly recommend people going to speak or write to them by letters or through Facebook as social media is more powerful than ever due to it being such a public profile where anyone can call them out via twitter or whatever.
do something, get angry, don't be scared people! we can change anything we want to! maybe not right off the bat but fighting for something can really make you invigorated and full of life.
i heard the NORML in Washington is kinda bogus too. there are other cannabis org's though but of course their medical so I'm thinking best bet is through the state (i can't believe i am saying that).
first get out to help change public opinion so when it does go to vote it's easier to get signatures and pass the bill to make changes. people don't just sit there, talk with your neighbors, wear a pro cannabis tshirt, reach out to people who otherwise wouldn't know about pot or consider it. the people who are not the typical stone pothead were the ones who got the bills for medical passed and they will be the ones to keep patient rights enforced while taking the profits from one hand and giving it to school kids, health care and other taxes to benefit the economy. i however think the taxes on the legal pot are too much and that caters to black market. i hope that the states get good advisors for the policy making.
BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, THEN THE GOVERNMENT WILL.
do something, get angry, don't be scared people! we can change anything we want to! maybe not right off the bat but fighting for something can really make you invigorated and full of life.
i heard the NORML in Washington is kinda bogus too. there are other cannabis org's though but of course their medical so I'm thinking best bet is through the state (i can't believe i am saying that).
first get out to help change public opinion so when it does go to vote it's easier to get signatures and pass the bill to make changes. people don't just sit there, talk with your neighbors, wear a pro cannabis tshirt, reach out to people who otherwise wouldn't know about pot or consider it. the people who are not the typical stone pothead were the ones who got the bills for medical passed and they will be the ones to keep patient rights enforced while taking the profits from one hand and giving it to school kids, health care and other taxes to benefit the economy. i however think the taxes on the legal pot are too much and that caters to black market. i hope that the states get good advisors for the policy making.
BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, THEN THE GOVERNMENT WILL.
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well if you like clever signs, you'd love my town of snarky roaming hippies in busses sitting at the truck stop with a tiny gas can talking about what a strange long trip they want to go on 
i don't mind those folks as they don't make me feel bad passing them by.
i suppose i just have this stupid bleeding heart who wants to help and change the world while the world tells me that is stupid flowerchild and breaks my daisy chained headband. i guess i hadn't thought about it quite like that with the common thread that judges people based on their situation but i can't just be that cold person who would look down in anger at a drunk. i feel sorry for them as i wonder how much pain they had to feel to want to drink themselves into a position like that. ironically i don't give hand outs to people bumming on the street. i help people who want to help themselves and i don't think people bumming on the corner are wanting to help themselves out of that situation. there are other avenues for doing that with programs and such through the state and other charities.
i don't mind those folks as they don't make me feel bad passing them by.i suppose i just have this stupid bleeding heart who wants to help and change the world while the world tells me that is stupid flowerchild and breaks my daisy chained headband. i guess i hadn't thought about it quite like that with the common thread that judges people based on their situation but i can't just be that cold person who would look down in anger at a drunk. i feel sorry for them as i wonder how much pain they had to feel to want to drink themselves into a position like that. ironically i don't give hand outs to people bumming on the street. i help people who want to help themselves and i don't think people bumming on the corner are wanting to help themselves out of that situation. there are other avenues for doing that with programs and such through the state and other charities.
some of those people have been burned by the system already, or the onset of mental disorders ranging from simple paranoia of authority figures to full blown schizophrenia, of course all too often it's rather easy to spot loafers workin' the system.
when I worked in NYC and on the coldest nights of the winter I'd always stop @ a McDonald's and grab 8 cheeseburgers, 8 fries and then hand them out to the street dwellers; these guys (gals too) weren't begging, no, they'd be shielding themselves from the wind by stashing themselves into corners here & there. This was on my walk from 33rd street to 42nd (Grand Central), I passed these folks every day several times & knew more or less where they'd be.
we don't see many homeless folk up here in northern Minnesota, too frikkin' cold, even a summer night can get down into the 30s (fahrenheit) for an hour or three on occasion. Young alert looking beggars that appear in town every now n' again get nothing from me, I've bought a few meals for some of the desperate looking people though.
Okay so now we are talking about helping out street people? There's an interesting test you can run to determine whether someone asking for help is genuinely in need. Rather then just handing them cash and trusting they'll use it for food rather then a bottle of Mad Dog 20/20. Offer to take them to a soup kitchen or to buy them a meal at a local fast food place. If they genuinely need help getting food they'll be grateful for your offer. if they're just trying to prey on peoples sympathies and guilt they'll reject your offer.
I went thru a period in my life where I got to know a lot of "street people" the vast majority of the 50 or so I met were making a conscious choice to live the way they did. Most knew of all the ways one can work the system for money, food stamps, clothes, etc. and were more then happy to take advantage of it so long as they didn't have to make any greater effort then to hold out their hand. One guy I knew actually got about 2 grand per month between Social Security and the VA checks he got so he had plenty of money to afford to rent and live a normal modest life, yet he preferred to be on the street doing nothing and drinking away his monthly benefits rather then paying them for shelter, food, and utilities.
I went thru a period in my life where I got to know a lot of "street people" the vast majority of the 50 or so I met were making a conscious choice to live the way they did. Most knew of all the ways one can work the system for money, food stamps, clothes, etc. and were more then happy to take advantage of it so long as they didn't have to make any greater effort then to hold out their hand. One guy I knew actually got about 2 grand per month between Social Security and the VA checks he got so he had plenty of money to afford to rent and live a normal modest life, yet he preferred to be on the street doing nothing and drinking away his monthly benefits rather then paying them for shelter, food, and utilities.
and lots of these folks are transient as well, not knowing how long they'll be sticking around they're probably reluctant to make the effort of putting themselves in the system, getting welfare benefits can take up to 6 weeks up here, or so I've heard, idk about elsewhere.
the old catch 22 of the homeless/jobless. no home address, no home phone, tough job prospects. yeah, I know that any homeless shelter will allow clients to use their #s but I'm sure most employers would see those familiar #s on applications.
tough life.
Kendo The Green
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Confidence and EGO are one in the same. I think you confuse Ego with selfish, self-centered, ego-centric. Ego is what drives confidence. EGO IS SELF..
I would venture that the majority of people are jealous. Consider the reaction the majority have shown towards successful cannabis ganjaprenuers in t
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Brilliant. Strong hugz
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So you don't like it when people don't take your advice? Could it be that it creeps them out more to see you rubbing your glands together? This is mostly a male dominated site. All kidding aside, most people don't like it when their advice isn't taken. That is how you find compatible people
Why would you give someone free pot every single time? A whole oz too? People who are good folks have a hard time asking for your help. If asking seems easy for them, obviously they've had practice. Sucks ya got taken but that's a fuckload of free pot to hand out to one house. The amount alone should've clued you in.
I have had a few people who paid for and then did not take my advice. At $100 an HR w/ a 4 hour minimum that can get expensive.
You wanna know a secret. They have not been newbs, these were seasoned growers experiencing serious crop losses and small yields due to environmental system problems. Experiencing PM, mold, heat issues, BUGS there was an immediate need to redo these entire systems. Argued the entire time, never changed and now......OUT OF BUSINESS.
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Caviar. Whoever is selling larfy caviar is an idiot..
I have been making and marketing this since 06 calling it Triple Threat. Making it with NICE buds.
I was at 420 in Golden Gate park with a bunch of online bro's. Joe schmoe passed me a freshy bowl that I torched up. Little did I know it was seriously tainted, I immediately got that closed in feeling and Schmoe told me what it was. I just glared at him and he laughed bigtime.. To top that off Good ole Guano/Juice passed me a bowl of some racy ass DTC type of sativa, I could not muster a proper speech pattern for like 30 minutes.
Here is a tip for you. You don't roll the herb in BHO, you hold the bud under the stream of oil infused Butane as it flows from the tube. Place the bud into a freezer to pull the butane to the outer material. Pull the bud and let the butane evaporate. Do this 3 times then click your heels together. After this you can vac purge if you so choose to.
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I guess I am pretty outraged, but not jealous, you have duped people or practically ransomed into paying a $100 an hour by refusing to lower your hourly wage. german car mechanics don't even make that much money per hour! i think that is highway robbery and if you can't think of anything else to retort back with besides "you're just jealous" it just shows how weak that argument is. this type of bullshit is exactly what i was talking about. overpriced consultants taking advantage of people in shitting situations by overcharging them for something they can't do themselves. what part of that screams ethical and okay? i feel so sorry for you as you're the only one to post and brag about it. most of the others have just read the thread.
i obviously have not made the caviar as I'm not trying to pass off shit buds by covering them up and then charging an arm and a leg for a product you came up with just to line your pockets with the crap buds that won't sell.
I'm sorry you don't know the difference between the two: ego and confidence but it really doesn't surprise me after reading your posts. Confidence says I'm valuable while ego says I'm invaluable. ego says i can do no wrong while confidence says i can get this right. similar but vastly different and only a person with confidence can realize this.
i obviously have not made the caviar as I'm not trying to pass off shit buds by covering them up and then charging an arm and a leg for a product you came up with just to line your pockets with the crap buds that won't sell.
I'm sorry you don't know the difference between the two: ego and confidence but it really doesn't surprise me after reading your posts. Confidence says I'm valuable while ego says I'm invaluable. ego says i can do no wrong while confidence says i can get this right. similar but vastly different and only a person with confidence can realize this.
