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pop_rocks

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lmao judging my cooking based on what queer people do in hotel rooms during the festival where pedophile heroes of the rainbow movement hold opening speeches sound kind of predjudiced. no worries though,

I bring good tidings that horse paste comes with apple flavor.
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hahah do you have horses? they like apples
or do you just like apple flavored shit?
/i have a hook up for apple flavored horse shit

im not the one talking about defacing others property with your feces man, you were
/just keeping it real here, but i get it man
and it wasnt queers smearing poo, it was you
/stay cool man and just post up a tamale or whatever it is you like to eat
 

pop_rocks

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The fruit processors often freeze or can those fruits that are too ripe to effectively make it to market, so many of the frozen or canned commercial fruits in the store are already at peak ripeness when they're canned or frozen. The trick is to get those that are not treated with sulfites, etc. Which none of these were (treated).

They were awesome peaches and strawberries, by the way. The wild blueberries are sweeter than the average wild Alaska blueberry, but they're still good, even if they don't have quite the level of antioxidants that the Alaska wild blueberries do.

I'm supposed to be headed to Chitina with my daughter to dipnet the Copper River reds/sockeye and one king on a personal use permit, pop.

The current formula for allowable catch is 25 fish for the head of household or permit holder, and 10 more fish for each additional household member, so my wife and I can keep 35 salmon now that our kids are all grown and gone, including the one king if the kings aren't shut down for dismal return numbers. My daughter and I haven't done that fishery together in many years.

Lots more oil and Omega-3's in those fish than in the Kenai River sockeye, which we also used to dipnet, but which I haven't harvested in years for specific reasons. That was back in the days when (with 5 of us here) we used to get well over 100 salmon between the two rivers.

But likely sometime right before that, the second week of July, we have a date for halibut, rockfish and ling cod out on the salt water in the Gulf of Alaska.

I'm a bit worried about my hip(s) at this point, as my lower spine is crumbly again after about 6 years since a triple laminectomy, and an epidural before this last, most recent solo ice fishing trip into the bush in the Wrangell-St. Elias Range in later March, early April, and the hips and lumbar are lighting up pretty good when I go clearing brush with the chainsaw or the brush cutter again, telling me my spinal cord is unhappy and has no "room to move" (to use a John Mayall lyric).

Thoracic spine is giving me shit when I work in the woods too long and hard as well, but that's a whole 'nother type of discomfort or pain. And with that, the neck and shoulders get aggravated due to cervical spine damage. Pretty much the whole spinal column is yelling at me anymore when I do necessary stuff around the place that requires some physical exertion.

I've got to take the older vintage Troybilt Horse rototiller out to the potato field this weekend to get that tilled, fertilized, hilled, and planted. Another preparatory or 'test' moment to see if pulling a 100+-lb. fish up from the bottom of the sea is going to paralyze me or not. :)


you take it easy on that yard work man and take care of that back
i know it needs to get done, but you are going dip fishing?! with your daughter
i guess thats using a hand net to scoop a fish out of the water?
/would i be overdressed in my wetsuit and flippers with my hawaiian sling; SOOOnNKK fish on
if you catch a 100# fish i own you a beer my friend!
 

Hiddenjems

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I love fish, but I worry about heavy metal and chemical contamination. We used to eat hundreds of walleye from Minnesota lakes every year.

I still eat fish, but sadly it’s not a weekly diet item anymore.
 

moose eater

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I love fish, but I worry about heavy metal and chemical contamination. We used to eat hundreds of walleye from Minnesota lakes every year.

I still eat fish, but sadly it’s not a weekly diet item anymore.
Limiting intake of fish is one way to manage intake of heavy metals, but looking at the life cycle of fish and how long they're growing in any body of water is another key; the longer they take to mature or the longer they live in a body of water, the more (typically atmospheric-sourced) heavy metals they're apt to possess.

Salmon are pretty much a 2–3-year life cycle, they leave the spawning grounds or hatchery and depending on species, don't return for 2-3 years, then they swim upstream, have an orgy and die. Shorter life cycle and typically very good omega-3s.

Most people love halibut, but the more mature halibut might take -many- years to mature. Same for lake trout.

We've caught trophy lakers that were probably 35 to 45 years old. That's a long time to be bathing in water with heavy metals in it.

If you go into the southern access to the Wrangell-St. Elias National Park and Preserve, along the Nabesna Rd., where we do our annual ice fishing back in the bush a good way, and look at some of the trail signage there, you can be in what appears to be pristine wild country and find signs telling you how often it's safe to eat the fish.

And after Fukushima's nuclear fiasco, there were literally measurable increases in Cesium-37 along the Alaska Coastline. And the Bering Sea and North Pacific are HUGE bodies of water, so dilution is not always the solution to pollution.... anymore..
 

moose eater

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you take it easy on that yard work man and take care of that back
i know it needs to get done, but you are going dip fishing?! with your daughter
i guess thats using a hand net to scoop a fish out of the water?
/would i be overdressed in my wetsuit and flippers with my hawaiian sling; SOOOnNKK fish on
if you catch a 100# fish i own you a beer my friend!
12-ft. to 20-ft. handle with D-rings on a 3.5 to 5 ft diameter landing-type net, ideally with the base of the handle where it meets the net hoop tied off with paracord to a tree limb or rock in or near a back-eddy, so the fish take a break in the back-eddy when the current reverses itself due to objects on the shore or bays/inlets, and that way the reversed current helps to keep your net pocket open upstream, and the fish swim in.

We used to catch as many as 2-4 salmon in a single dip back in days of less pressure when the run was really good and can still sometimes catch a couple in a dip.

The whole affair down there has changed in the last 30-some years.

But I just looked at the Miles Lake Sonar, and things are looking alarming, seriously, as far as the returns this year. I just posted a link elsewhere, but I'm really hoping this is simply a later start on the run. We have had a bit of consistently cool weather here, so... who knows?



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The water moves pretty fast through the canyon, and it's more than a good idea to wear a GOOD flotation device and to tie both yourself and your net off with good rope to a solid anchor point. Folks can die there in a heartbeat and numerous people have gone in, to never be found again.

But it's a good time. Just keep your balance and wits about you.


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pop_rocks

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12-ft. to 20-ft. handle with D-rings on a 3.5 to 5 ft diameter landing-type net, ideally with the base of the handle where it meets the net hoop tied off with paracord to a tree limb or rock in or near a back-eddy, so the fish take a break in the back-eddy when the current reverses itself due to objects on the shore or bays/inlets, and that way the reversed current helps to keep your net pocket open upstream, and the fish swim in.

We used to catch as many as 2-4 salmon in a single dip back in days of less pressure when the run was really good and can still sometimes catch a couple in a dip.

The whole affair down there has changed in the last 30-some years.

But I just looked at the Miles Lake Sonar, and things are looking alarming, seriously, as far as the returns this year. I just posted a link elsewhere, but I'm really hoping this is simply a later start on the run. We have had a bit of consistently cool weather here, so... who knows?



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The water moves pretty fast through the canyon, and it's more than a good idea to wear a GOOD flotation device and to tie both yourself and your net off with good rope to a solid anchor point. Folks can die there in a heartbeat and numerous people have gone in, to never be found again.

But it's a good time. Just keep your balance and wits about you.


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oh wow man! that looks like beautiful country and i can imagine how that water could be no joke when its moving fast
/im pretty much drown proof, so even if i go under , i always pop up somewhere: but i might have a long walk back to camp
so if im reading that data correctly it looks like the numbers are way low but it looks like the miles lake numbers are kicking up
fwiw, we are having a slow spring too here in socal
is that your daughter?! 😘
i will buy her a beer too, she would laugh at me
/im an old man
catch some fish!!
 
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pop_rocks

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well look at you ansel adams!
that is a nice photograph!
so does that fancy stick have a net attaches to the end? to scoop fish or is it the fish trap net
i see some fish on the bank, if the scale is correct, those things look pretty fat!
are they alays that green color or what
/some fish fade when you catch them
that loos like easy water and i hope you guys hook em up
 
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moose eater

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oh wow man! that looks like beautiful country and i can imagine how that water could be no joke when its moving fast
so if im reading that data correctly it looks like the numbers are way low but it looks like the miles lake numbers are kicking up
fwiw, we are having a slow spring too here in socal
is that your daughter?! 😘
i will but her free beers too
catch some fish!!
No, these are online file pics. My personal Chitina pics are buried on a desktop within my desktop from an older computer I salvaged files from many times over and put on a back-up. And I've done that enough times now that I probably have 2 or 3 other computers' worth of files on this computer and my stand-alone hard drive.

I figure that when I die my wife, or someone, will have to go through a HUGE stash of files and probably find stuff that even I didn't realize I still had.

The water in that canyon where it narrows, and thus accelerates the speed a bit, forms whirlpools, and going over them (if in a boat) can be quite a rush.

Former partner/former friend and others used to take down a gallon of whisky and some LSD or 'shrooms 40 years ago and have a party while loading up the freezers.

I never wear hip waders or chest waders, because if they fill with water while you're in the water, and especially if you're in the current, you're done for. Sneakers and blue jeans, ratty t-shirts, some good beer or a flask of tequila, and some reefer. Good to go.

Sometimes we blast through and don't sleep, as once you start putting whole fish on stringers (5 to 6 fish to a stringer, as the decent size reds, whole, can weigh between 6 and 10 lbs.) in silty water in the sun, you want to hurry up and finish, get them filleted in a nearby clear water creek (never in the silty river water if you can help it, and fileting 35 fish will give the carpal tunnel a run), then bagged inside larger coolers in 33-50 gallon trash bags and iced down on top, then the marathon home.

Always worked well with my dyssomnia and some Rx amphetamines. And with a truck that smells like over 100 lbs.+ of fresh fish filets, you get selective on where you set up a camp to rest.
 
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moose eater

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oh wow man! that looks like beautiful country and i can imagine how that water could be no joke when its moving fast
/im pretty much drown proof, so even if i go under i will always pop up somehow:: but i might have a long walk back to camp
so if im reading that data correctly it looks like the numbers are way low but it looks like the miles lake numbers are kicking up
fwiw, we are having a slow spring too here in socal
is that your daughter?! 😘
i will buy her a beer too, she would laugh at me
/im an old man
catch some fish!!
The green and silver-skinned ones are what we call 'ocean bright' sockeye. They haven't started turning color with the spawn. Deluxe eating or smoking. equivalent to what you'd pay $10 to $20/lb. for in the stores' fish coolers.

There are also trails you can bike into or hike into, depending on your energy level and fitness.

It's an 'Alaska residents only' fishery due to the 'personal use' designation. Subsistence fishing above the bridge is also Alaska-resident only.

Subsistence fishing, a minor distinction and difference from personal use, with greater catch permitted, is done above the bridge, and often involves fish wheels. Personal use fishery is strictly below the bridge at the Copper River.

Yes, with the dipnets, the pole goes down to a hoop of various shapes and the net is typically between 3.5 and 5 feet in diameter.

The subsistence fish wheels above the bridge are sometimes traditional in design and sometimes less so.
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moose eater

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@pop_rocks wrote: "" /im pretty much drown proof, so even if i go under , i always pop up somewhere: ""


There can be boulders of many sizes and driftwood sweepers or trees from up the canyon wall that are lodged or located on the bottom, and depths can vary radically. The current is so fast/powerful that if it sucks you under, you can become lodged or entangled in/under one of those objects, and then... That's one reason why some who go in are never found.
 

pop_rocks

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@pop_rocks wrote: "" /im pretty much drown proof, so even if i go under , i always pop up somewhere: ""


There can be boulders of many sizes and driftwood sweepers or trees from up the canyon wall that are lodged or located on the bottom, and depths can vary radically. The current is so fast/powerful that if it sucks you under, you can become lodged or entangled in/under one of those objects, and then... That's one reason why some who go in are never found.
i hear you man and if its my time to go, well...
but im used to swimming in the ocean so the water is not always working with you, plus some of the places we used to surf were pretty nasty
shallow water and nasty rocks, but thast was where the waves were
but i respect the water and play it safe now
/i dont swim out in deep water, and i dont climb steep stuff anymore
 

moose eater

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i hear you man and if its my time to go, well...
but im used to swimming in the ocean so the water is not always working with you, plus some of the places we used to surf were pretty nasty
shallow water and nasty rocks, but thast was where the waves were
but i respect the water and play it safe now
/i dont swim out in deep water, and i dont climb steep stuff anymore
I've only fallen in there once, and we were drinking beer and stoned, in an inlet where the current was tamer and the temps were warmer. I was tied off and wearing an OSHA work/falling harness with an Alyeska Pipelines dock worker flotation vest. We were hooting and hollering, having a grand time, and the cooler water felt good.

The folks across from us on our little bay were looking at us pretty sternly and somewhat critical of our goofiness for fucking around like that. That would've been the mid-90s.

Water, at a minimum of 8-lbs. per gallon, and in that place, loaded with glacial silt, moving at 7-10 mph is an incredible force.
 

pop_rocks

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oh man! sounds like fun
and f' osha! and their rules
who are they to keep epopel safe
the thing about water is you dont fight it
go with the flow and water is your friend
now cold water is a different beast
we swim in 60 bathtub water here in california
but ive been in water that takes your breath away
/yeah! good times
 
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pop_rocks

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lmao judging my cooking based on what queer people do in hotel rooms during the festival where pedophile heroes of the rainbow movement hold opening speeches sound kind of predjudiced. no worries though,

I bring good tidings that horse paste comes with apple flavor.
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......derp
 

So Hai

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/just keeping it real here, but i get it man
and it wasnt queers smearing poo, it was you
/stay cool man and just post up a tamale or whatever it is you like to eat
Coprophagia is queer. I am not in support of anything queer but you are. And while your queer support is obviously faltering on this point you have confirmed your support of transgenderism etc.

How can you keep it real not knowing what is real? You cant.
 

pop_rocks

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Coprophagia is queer. I am not in support of anything queer but you are. And while your queer support is obviously faltering on this point you have confirmed your support of transgenderism etc.

How can you keep it real not knowing what is real? You cant.
but you are the only one smearing pooin here and that has nothing to do with your sexuality
and for the record i have nothing against a gay/transgender person
good people are good people and bad people are bad people
it seems you are so quick to judge
 
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So Hai

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but you are the only one smearing pooin here and that has nothing to do with your sexuality
and for the record i have nothing against a gay/transgender person
good people are good people and bad people are bad people
it seems you are so quick to judge
I am not ”smearing poo”. I am discussing the gender queer issue and gave you example of what happened during pride week. Since gay and trangender persons are social constructs, what you are saying is that you have nothing against the state constructing such persons by religious indoctrination and gentital mutilation. And mutilating genitals is what ”good people” do, right? Only in a society where mental illness has been made into the norm.
 

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