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[PCBuds]

BUT I NEED HELP WITH HER, anyone have opinions what could be those yellow tips on the serrations? The strange thing is i only noticed them now that she greened up a bit , or im just "stressin" up and it is probably nothing?


peace

Yup, you're just "stressin"...

She's happy now and what's done is done with the first set of leaves.
They are just a picture of the past now.

Wait for the next set of leaves.
They will tell you how she's currently feeling.

She may have been pale from not enough light as opposed to too much?
I notice the stalk isn't purple like my baby.

It sucks how too much or too little of just about anything can present itself in the same way.



This is my baby right now.
She's got a short purple stalk even though her leaves look to be a bit bigger than your .

 

[gizmo666]

It's simply called PPFD meter...






I really your lights guys.

They seem really user friendly.

Now you just need 4 more to hang on your walls. Lol

thanks PC

 

[Sampas92]

Thanks gizmo666. I think maybe we push them harder sooner than we should be somehow. Its kinda hard to dial them in.

Regarding the over watering in reality since they are borned i must have gave them around (staying in the pots) around 4l maybe? The thing is, with the perlite in the bottom and watering from the bottom i feel that the pot swicks the water up.
Swicking up water the roots start to creat those capilary roots, the ones that we all want, the thing is, when i watered from the top and saturated the soil, did the capilary roots died or where afected somehow? And if so how the plant presents herself?i guess droopy?
The plan all along was to give them x ammount of water from the bottom to swick it, from beggining to end, low dosages off water, just enough to have moist soil until the top, if the soil have good aereation it works.
And in reality when i gave them that ammount of water it was mainly because to saturate the soil for A) see if they were under watered and B) to give that huge ammount of calmag to see if i could improve their health. The thing is that they drooped a bunch, but the reality was that i never had feeled the pot light, always at was seemed the same weight or them asking for water.
Thats why i came to the conclusion that under watered they werent, but then again, the droopiness was because of something off in the capillary roots, or indeed too much water? Also the soil swicking could not be equal in all parts. But the reality is that after the big watering the roots poke out reaching foe the remaining water in the plate, so they were there already, probably drinking from the perlite.

The plan is also swick with the coco experiment, but more in a similar way to how terpene used in his threads, always in water, but with space between the pot and water. The aeropot and the majority of the mix being coco is to minimize somehow overwatering, the organic dry Kalong ferts are to try to have the best of both worlds. I guess its all a question of waiting for a more established root system to hold the ammount of evaporation through the pot, i hope it works.

Either way, coming back to the light, i think i will wait a couple of days to see if i raised it in any parameter.


Buds, maybe, i was thinking about that along this day, but the setup is the same since borned, the only difference before the green up was maintaining a more suited rh to that stage, also she is not getting that tall, indeed is quite short,so i dunno what to think in all my newbiness.
Also since this is all new to me, and not advisable, at least was the conclusion that i get about growing coco with organic nutes a pinch of peat after looking online breafly.

some pics 1 hour into the night to foliar some girls

Under a 4k sil they all are better represented color wise, the the Rocky is not happy. Bwt she have an accidic smell, lemony i guess is how you call it? The Gorila smell is sour, i dont know, but is and me like it. The mazarilla i cant pick a lot but a bit fruity i guess? The killer for now nothing to say.

Peace

 

[Sampas92]

It was a very convincing post. No hint of being anything other than a professor until some way through it, when he questions himself. Then returns to form at the very end, with some 'everyone is keeping the truth from us, only I know now' stuff.
It's the guy I called in, but I guess he's on a post ban.
This is the thread where it all started. The pics are there in post #1 https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijua...led-deficiency-before-it-takes-over-the-world
Perhaps the most banned person on the internet. His last thread of note was his new extraction technique, making a product he wouldn't show, using a technique too dangerous to share. He has had a number of bans since then though.
CosmicGiggle calls him Drew, after his Drewsif account.

Oh shit, thats fucked up. What the thing with these guys? In reality i never take it seriously because i never find anywhere else something related to it, but i keep that in mind because there is always that 1% and you never know.


Btw, pcbuds, i forgot to answer that i cant properly compare it because they only provide at 100% blast, maybe some calculations. Today i didnt calibrate, tomorrow i will calibrate it according the Mars ppfd readings at 100% too and 30cm too, maybe the best way to use it as a rough guide.


Peace and thank you bros

 

[PCBuds]

Btw, pcbuds, i forgot to answer that i cant properly compare it because they only provide at 100% blast, maybe some calculations. Today i didnt calibrate, tomorrow i will calibrate it according the Mars ppfd readings at 100% too and 30cm too, maybe the best way to use it as a rough guide.


Peace and thank you bros

I'm liking that app. It knows what sensor my phone is using...

So the app knows better how to calibrate the phone.

My dumb ass phone uses the front facing camera as the light sensor, so I'm sure that's not the best.

I played around with some settings and I only had to reduce my calibration by 16% in the closet with the lights set low.

The hi and low CRI numbers are pretty close, so I have an idea how much difference the CRI ratings make.

I'm still playing around with it and need to calibrate it at 100%, but my closet is different with all the lights up and down the walls.

I don't know if it maxes out at 20,000 lux like the other light meter apps do?

And my actual LUX meter isn't calibrated for LED light, so there's that too just to make sure that I never really know what my numbers are. Lol


EDIT:
I should add that f-e has the same light meter as I have and he calibrated it with a proper light meter.
He sent me a list of numbers to use.

I still run my lights brighter than recommended because that's just what I do... Lol

I'm beaming up my window plant with 75,000 lux. Lol

 

[PCBuds]

..., tomorrow i will calibrate it according the Mars ppfd readings at 100% too and 30cm too, maybe the best way to use it as a rough guide.


Peace and thank you bros

Yeah that's what they describe to do..

You may end up with more accurate numbers than me using my LUX meter to calibrate my app?

 

[Sampas92]

Killer praying and getting ready

Mazarilla, tucked some leafs, she looks good, dont pray like her sister but is not mad like the other one, getting ready too

Gorilla, seems better but then again, no resin for now and still that odd presentation, could i be giving it too much light still? I also think about nutrients, but what i mixed should be good for the entire grow and stages

Rocky today seems better and i tucked some big top fans just for fun, she seems to want to start to be ready

Coco Gold, leafs seem bigger but somehow the start is not good, she is 4 days old, still a bit pale, i was expecting more growth, the pot seems moist, not a lot just a bit, just to be sure i remove the plastic wrap around the aeropot to promote more dryness, lets see. I think i will foliar some epsoms and seaweed later in the day.

Peace

 

[Sampas92]

So in 2 days the Killer passed from 74cm from the light to 68 and the Mazarilla to around 71. The Gorila remains the same and the Rocky i didnt follow it.

So today at lights out they were droopy again, so i raised the light to be at 80cm from the Killer that is the tallest one and powered up to 75%. Tomorrow is my day off, since my temps drop 2c to night temps 2 hours before lights off, i will keep an eye on them to see if they start to drop on the beggining of the 2 hours until the end. At least the purpling slowed down a bit. The rocky is at 1m distance from the light and the Coco with at 1.25m at soil level, but the dome is still there and quite opaque so it lowers the light intensity.

The Coco Gold was all prayable at the end of the day, without the plastic wrap covering the pot i noticed the rh dropped a bit more than before in the dome, need to spray more. On the other hand i think i will put a hose from the humidifier to her and ditch the dome, since the humi runs 24/7 at least she would have always humidity reaching her, but then i think keeping the top soil moist would be a bit harder..need to think on it.

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Peace

 

[Sampas92]

I ditched the dome of the Coco Gold to hose her to the humidifier, after some hours i notice the soil still moist and some droplets formed. The clip on fan provides air flow making it not 100% humidity 100% of the time..for now she looks the same, i will keep an eye to see if the soil dont moist up too much

The Killer is getting taller and taller, everyday she is taller than the previous day, very prayable, but now i ask is this only stretch and the happy pray or her reaching for stronger light?i ask because since i started to raise the lights from the Gorila i notice the Kiler pointing her leafs to the middle of the tent where the light is supposedly higher, now should i take it as a sign of she wants more light? I feel i should somehow ignore the Gorila and provide the bet for the bigger and better girls.

Mazarilla, looks the same as the other days. Slight burned tips in the new growth, guess the huge ammount of calmag contributed to that

Rocky

The Gorila today looks more perky and more prayable, i guess since she started flowering way earlier she must have a smaller root mass and therefore less capable of getting the same ammount of light that her sisters can? But then again i think that they all got the purpling stems at about the same time, and still having them even if is not so fast at purpling more

Also this is the measurments of the ppfd app with the light at 100% at 30cm distance like Mars advertise

At plant levels

At plant level at 75% like it is today

i feel the pots on the lighter side on the bottom but some moist on the top so i will bottom water them about 7% of the total ammount of pot l. I wonder if a bit of biogrow or the ashes from the Guano Kalong would help her, even though the mix should hold until harvest.

Peace

 

[exploziv]

I think the pics got lost..

 

[Sampas92]

I think the pics got lost..

It was my mistake, i corrected it bro, thanks

 

[PCBuds]

The Killer is getting taller and taller, everyday she is taller than the previous day, very prayable, but now i ask is this only stretch and the happy pray or her reaching for stronger light?i ask because since i started to raise the lights from the Gorila i notice the Kiler pointing her leafs to the middle of the tent where the light is supposedly higher, now should i take it as a sign of she wants more light? I feel i should somehow ignore the Gorila and provide the bet for the bigger and better girls.

That's what I would do.
Your Gorilla won't be happy about it but I don't think you'd really damage her?

You could maybe pinch off a few fan leaves so she doesn't get as much light?

I end up removing almost all the leaves from my plants.

 

[Sampas92]

So today when i picked the Coco Gold i noticed the pot heavier that it should be. I seeded it with a weigth of around 2550G, the last time i check 2 days ago it was coming close to 2300, now it was at 2498G, so the mix absorved the humidity from the humidifier so i ditch the hose, and she will need to get used to around 55 rh.

Killer, stretching like mad but mostly columnar, if its more genetic than stretching to reach the light it would be fun to fill the tent with a bunch of them

Mazarilla, stretching but much more branchy and lower in height, i like it a lot

Gorila, still no resin to see, or stickyness to feel. The Kalong nutes that i mixed are the Complete, wich is a blend advertised for veg and flowering, Powder wich is a slow release for flowering stronger in P but i guess it helps in veg too in roots. And i have the their Palm tree ashes strong in K that i didnt have. Im thinking on feeding them to see if anything changes for the better, maybe with a bit of Biobloom. I need to try her again and better.

Rocky, she is thick short and bushy, i like it

I did not water them yesterday..the pots feel lighter but i still feel moist in the top, im wondering for now if i should do it, need to think.

Also im wondering if i should push them harder and power up the light a bit everyday until 100% since they are reaching the flowering stage and maintain the same distance and if needed lower the distance a bit, light is at 70cm from Killer, the tallest one, 80cm from Gorila an Mazarila, around 95 from the Rocky.

Peace

 

[exploziv]

Looking good! I am sure those are (g) grams and not kg tho.

 

[Sampas92]

Looking good! I am sure those are (g) grams and not kg tho.

thanks bro

yes they are, i corrected it, thanks, sorry guys.

peace

 

[gizmo666]

they are looking really good sampas

 

[Sampas92]

 

[Sampas92]

I bought 2 lights traps for the intakes from Secre Jardin, they seem do work. Need to think how im going to arrange things to flower photoperiods in the future, thanks Alpenglow

All the 3 big girls take well the watering from yesterday, Btw, damn those ashes are a bitch to ph in water, really really strong. Besides them i also add 3ml/l of calmag, epsoms, and 1ml/l of biobloom. The pot of the Killer looks quite heavy, the pot of the Mazarilla feels light and i feel she drank it all, so today im going to bottom water her again, the Gorilla im not sure also.

The Killer have some purple stripes on the main stem, right at the middle of her, dont find them anywhere else neither i know when they show up

The Mazarilla is a bunch of branches, there are a bunch of them near the soil that fucks me watering from above and i dunno if i should maintain them, in her and the Killer..i mean, so close to the soil, so far from the light, i wonder how productive they may be vs how prone to mold etc could be wich is good because i never was able to have branches on side branches like this before

Gorilla looks better compared to some days ago..she darken up a lot wich i guess is from that huge dose of calmag. Even though its better, i dont see resin forming and i think if is genetic or something nutrient related. I guess that if something where lacking for this stage i guess they would tell me, i wonder if lacking resin is one of the ways of them telling something, nutrient, light or environment. If the resin vaporized it should be from the light because i dont have higher temps, but i dont feel smell in the air, not even when i open the tent, just something slight so i guess they are not? Maybe i should just wait and let her do her thing..

Rocky, today is her watering day, she will get a bit of calmag, i think i will not add any biobloom.. its easy to top water her since she stretched a bit more than her cousing at seedling stage..im thinking of adding a hanfull of castings on the top, maybe mixed with a bit of mycos..or maybe a bit of ashes but i guess is too soon for it

Now the girls are all at ground level, and the Killer still is the tallest one, Gorila coming in second but will be a 3rd because Mazarilla is getting taller..light is was at 80% and is now at 77cm from them. I think i will bump the power again in 2 days

Peace

 

[Sampas92]

Today the Coco Gold is going to have her first foliar, pinch of calmag, epsoms and seaweed. Water a tiny bit with root stimulant.

1 hour before lights out and all of the girls are droopy.

Notice how the Killer flex her leafs down from earlier to now
Earlier

now

The Mazarilla is all drooped out the thing is that is only the various tops that are like this..i notice that is only the tallest part or more sensitive parts of the plant that seems to droop hard..the leafs that are in the middle of the plant body remain perkyish.

The rocky also doing it

On the other hand now the Gorilla looks better than the other girls.
Somehow i feel they are getting to much light looking at how the Mazarilla looks overall since is more bushy and similar in height overall and looking how the upper part of the Killer looks more affected, since she is more columnar its noticeable and since the Gorilla is further into flowering stage i guess she can take a bit more light and seems a bit better than her sisters..
Light is at 80%, 75cm from the girls, im thinking on lowering the power..anybody have the same opinion than me that its too much for the 3 youngers girls?
the only reason i could find they drop so much is because the temps are at night mode, 22c instead of 24..maybe i should run them with the same temp everytime?

Another thing, maybe is in my mind but now that the Mazarilla is crashed, i feel the pot heavier.
Its stupid i know because the water if its there is going to have the same weight, but is something iv been noticing on some days now, my mind playing tricks on me.


Peace

 

[Sampas92]

Almost 5 hours after into the night and the Killer is all up, everyone else stil sleeping or in coma mode.

Peace