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From the TSW 2000 to the FCE 3000

stiff

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Mills, hakaphos or yara are all commercial and cheap stuff,I'd go with that. GHE and others have started salts lines too,but of course to growshop prices. Stick to the commercial stuff and you will save thousands over the years on nutrients. If you pick them right you won't need many snake oils either. I only use hakaphos red and blue and MKP. All three are cheap as chips and give me results just like the stupid bottles in the shop which are made from those salts🤭
 

PCBuds

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Im wondering if in the future should get something like drip clean or something similar.

Peace :tiphat:

I'm just guessing here, but I'm thinking that if a nozzle gets clogged or slows down, you could remove the orange cap and silicon valve thing and soak them to remove the salt buildup.
You could replace those parts with parts from a spare to keep the nozzle going.
That way you aren't removing the entire nozzle from the tubing every time.

IIRC, you've got PH down? phosphoric acid?
That should work good to dissolve salts? That or vinegar or some acid wash.
Plastic and silicon should be acid proof.


I don't know what drip stop is, but I assume you put it in your reservoir, then it gets sprayed on your plants.
That might not be a good thing?
 

stiff

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I hope your nozzles won't block up too much. Those yara salts are made for irrigation systems, I think even aeroponic if I remember right. I'd be dissapointed if they cause drama.
Maybe get your hands on a kilo of MKP as a flower booster. If you need some feeding scheme guidline,I do have one.
Edit:
I figured I just throw it in anyway.
MKP you start using in week 4 of flower.
In Hydro
FW 4 10g/100L
FW 5 25g/100L
FW 6 50g/100L
FW7 50g/100L
And then either flush a week or continue like in FW7

In soil
FW4 5g/100L
FW5 10g/100L
FW6 25g/100L
FW7 25g/100L
FW8 flush or continue like FW7
 
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Sampas92

Just newbin
I hope your nozzles won't block up too much. Those yara salts are made for irrigation systems, I think even aeroponic if I remember right. I'd be dissapointed if they cause drama.
Maybe get your hands on a kilo of MKP as a flower booster. If you need some feeding scheme guidline,I do have one.
Edit:
I figured I just throw it in anyway.
MKP you start using in week 4 of flower.
In Hydro
FW 4 10g/100L
FW 5 25g/100L
FW 6 50g/100L
FW7 50g/100L
And then either flush a week or continue like in FW7

In soil
FW4 5g/100L
FW5 10g/100L
FW6 25g/100L
FW7 25g/100L
FW8 flush or continue like FW7
Thanks bro, i will get later on in the gro some mkp, for now i just get micros individually to tweak a bit.
I saw a lot of hakaphos products, the calcidic line seems nice for coco, price point i find hand in hand with the yara blends i can get.

I dont know if you are european, but do you know some good fulvics in europe?

Also wouldnt mind me asking about your ratios in veg and flower?

Peace :tiphat:
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
I'm just guessing here, but I'm thinking that if a nozzle gets clogged or slows down, you could remove the orange cap and silicon valve thing and soak them to remove the salt buildup.
You could replace those parts with parts from a spare to keep the nozzle going.
That way you aren't removing the entire nozzle from the tubing every time.

IIRC, you've got PH down? phosphoric acid?
That should work good to dissolve salts? That or vinegar or some acid wash.
Plastic and silicon should be acid proof.


I don't know what drip stop is, but I assume you put it in your reservoir, then it gets sprayed on your plants.
That might not be a good thing?
Part of the plan is regularly see how the dripers are in terms of build up.

I intend to do multiple waterings along the day, getting run off to deal with built up in the coco, for the system i will check and maybe get the drip clean or something similar that yes, its to dissolve the salts that may have formed, dunno, as things goes i will see

Eithwr way the seeds are in water so in a few days there will be a new thread of my newbinesses :D
Peace :tiphat:
 

stiff

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I can also recommend enzymes on coco. Since I use them I have a shitload less troubles. For the haka red,blue and mkp I got a feeding chart..(its for crystal top,but its the excact same products)

Watch closely,one is for hydro grows and the other for soil. Yellow stands for the MKP obviously.
Shout out to "doppelmoral" and "einsdreisieben" for sharing this info in some german forum.
If you've got trouble understanding it,give me a yell.
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Sampas92

Just newbin
So i let the seeds soak in water in a warm dark place, at potting up the taproot of them all were outside, only one had 1.5cm of tap outside, i feel they will take a bit more to get out because of it, me and my lazy ass leaving them in water for 36 hours. I think in 2 to 3 days they will be out

I moistened the coco with nutrients like this, final ec was 1300 since my tap water is at 280, ph was 6
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7l pots, 4 handfulls of perlite and thats it.
The girls are all freebies bulk seeds without seedbank, there is only one that is from a bank, also freebie.
Skunk XXL auto, the one that had the longest taproot
Amnesia xxl auto
SuperGold auto
Speed+ auto from Sweet Seeds
Temp of 24 and rh of 75~80%
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Now what is just missing is the pump that is still coming, the indevidual micros, mkp and sop are coming also to give some flexibility, considering geting map too.
Also im searching for some good fulvics, root stimulator, if any european fellow know of anything good that dont cost a kidney, please contribute.

I just hope that the pump will not take too much to arrive since i dont pretend to handwater them the whole grow

Peace :tiphat;
 

exploziv

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gossip travels fast around here! :joint:
looks like the ones I use aren't available for him to buy, tho. I already talked with him about that in pm.
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
Thanks guys.
Its not that there isnt choices out there, there may even have too much of them ence the dificulty for me to choose, plus, lack of feedback is a con. Im trying to find someting at least similar to what bill talks in is thread with not much success.

Since i can adapt the irrigation to the pressure sprayer ill use it until the pump comes, until now 3.3m of hose used for 2 sprayers in each pot.
I played a bit with the sprayers to see the coverage and at what height.
15cm height around 20cm radius
10cm around 15cm radius, at least one connected to the sprayer with enough pressure for it to work, later on with the pump ill see how it goes. I think i used too much hose too.
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Peace :tiphat:
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
The skunk, the one that had the longest tap root is getting out, 24h seems nice, wich is good because i think it means i didnt stunt them much
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With the rh at 80% the coco still feels nicely moist, i could almost say even a bit moistier than after me moistening it

Shit, im super anxious with this :D

Im also thinking on inoculate one of the pots with great white to see what it does.

Peace :tiphat:
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
Since everyone seems to be out tomorrow, ill lowered the light to 60cm distance and for the next days it will be 24/7 for them
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Skunk xxl
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Speed +
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Amnesia xxl and Supergold have lumps on the top of the coco so it wont take long, i expected them to take more, im happy.

Peace :tiphat:
 
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