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gizmo666

Active member
plants are coming along nicely sampas
i think you will be surprised with the final outcome
keep up the good work :headbange
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
plants are coming along nicely sampas
i think you will be surprised with the final outcome
keep up the good work :headbange

Thanks gizmo666, i still have hopes that the Rocky Dirk ends up bigger than the others. I kinda have some for the Killer and the Mazarilla because the Gorila is entering the flowering stage very small, the Killer and the Mazrilla too, but they didnt started to stretch yet so i hope they will take more time to finish but just because of the "slow growth", not imparing yield a lot and ending up with a surprise, but the hopes are small.

But i see them different with the rh stabilized, i cant explain but they seem diferent

Btw your girls are looking very good :headbange

Peace :tiphat:
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
So i did some changes for the day that passed for them. I switched the place of the probe that is controling the environment. Instead of being in the left wall i put them right in the middle of the tent between the girls, on top of the totes where the 2 back girls are inside, so its a bit below pot level and is under the sticky so is not receiving direct light.
I maintained the 2 hygrometers in the same place.
The day went different for the better. Much stable temps along the entire day, and also the i didnt feel the room where the tent is so hot. Also on the right side of the tent i didnt feel that irradiating heat that i did before. The whole tent seemed much more equal and the hyrometers told the same.
This together with the controled extract by rh, the little fan pushing the hot air by the intake worked good, at least for this day. Side note: they are small, but the extract runs more times in the night.
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Rocky Dirk, seems more voluptuous
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Killer, the watering yesterday seemed a bit overkill, the 3 girls are telling me that, this one is kind clawing a bit but seems the least sad about it but she was a tiny bit less perky along the day, even though she prayed the entire day
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Mazarila, she isnt clawing but was much more droopy today, the bottom of the plate still had water but lights on, and some tips seems to want to claw a bit, she is happy, but a bit mad.
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The Gorila is so fucking mad that she had its claws pointed at me for the entire day, she is sensitive girl. Quite taller compared to the other girls, one day younger too, that why i still hope the other 2 can manage to grow a bit, they are not so in a hurry
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I noticed that after i added the wormcastings to the coco experiment it holds water better so i take it all out, mixed the soil all good again, wet it to that point that you can hold it tight and stays compact but when when move it a little it crumbles, back to pot and soaked the corresponding bulk freebie seed Super Gold Auto, i will not wait until the seed cracks, i will pot it after it sinks

Tomorrow i will buy plastic wrap and wrap the pot to get an even moisture for the entire soil and not wet in the middle and dry on the side due to the holes, at least for now, later on when i hope she be bigger, i will water differently and will need those holes to a good aereation.
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Peace :tiphat:
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
Another day went by and the temps were like yesterday, stable, rh stable so i will leave the controler probe where it is for now

The girls today were more perky, but they all crashed a bit on the end of the day but during the day they were good, the Gorilla was not so droopy.
Midlle of the day
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End of the day
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The Killer had an accident, i droped the hygrometer on her and it broke one of the upper fans, i removed the other from the other side. Looking at the top it doesnt seem that cluster that seems to want to start stretching but she kinda seems more voluptuous
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The Mazarila, she and the killer are 26 days old, she took the day better today, like the Killer, she also seems more voluptuous, but without that cluster thats wants to explode in nodes and stretch on the top
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The angry Gorila

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The 3 girls are starting to show purple stems in the leafs starting from the petiole but the petiole i not purple yet, lack of something i guess? But what?P or K?since they are so small and the ammount of fertilizer i used i guess they still have a bunch to eat in the pots
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The seed that i soaked sank after i tap her so i pot her up, moisten the top and dome it.
Normally i pot the seeds when they crack, not with the tip outside like the last girls, just cracked from soaking the water, normally they take 3 days to sprout, maybe this one will take 4 or 5.
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Peace :tiphat:
 

PCBuds

Well-known member
The 3 girls are starting to show purple stems in the leafs starting from the petiole but the petiole i not purple yet, lack of something i guess? But what?P or K?since they are so small and the ammount of fertilizer i used i guess they still have a bunch to eat in the pots


Peace :tiphat:

That may be your lights?
My stems and branches are always purple.

The shaded parts of the branches were green.


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My babies are purple too...


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PCBuds

Well-known member

That looks familiar 🤔...

This was my last plant early on...


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She grew into this...


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Sampas92

Just newbin
Maybe, i thought of that and i dunno because the Rocky Dirk dont have it and is a younger girl, i guess if it was too much light she would show it too?
They all seem to have it at the same time, the same way and at slightly different different stages, the gorila is more advanced into flowering but the other 2 are with a bunch of pistils on the nodes and seem to be wanting to start stretch soon, maybe nutrient related because different nutrient requirements as they go?i never feeded them calmag, maybe i will start to to bump the calcium a bit for veg, maybe that help?dont remember how the nutrients are linked to each other when they eat, need to search it, but im lazy now and will procastinate a bit :D

Dunno if could also be, for some reason, because of a bit too much water

For now is mostly on the more exposed part to the light of the stems, so it could be from the light. Need to wait and see how it progresses

thank you buds, im wainting to see another another taned beast of yours :D

Peace :tiphat:
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
That looks familiar 🤔...

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I know right? She is sensitive from the start, dunno why, but its a chalenge and i like it even if i didnt did anything directly to fix it.
i dont think none of my girls will become anything remote close to yours size wise, but when i see the pics before and after apparently stabilized the environment a bit, they did grew quite a bit but being so older i guess thats normal..dunno maybe they will end up kinda big and just being mocking me the entire time

Peace :tiphat:
 

PCBuds

Well-known member
Maybe, i thought of that and i dunno because the Rocky Dirk dont have it and is a younger girl, i guess if it was too much light she would show it too?
They all seem to have it at the same time, the same way and at slightly different different stages, the gorila is more advanced into flowering but the other 2 are with a bunch of pistils on the nodes and seem to be wanting to start stretch soon, maybe nutrient related because different nutrient requirements as they go?i never feeded them calmag, maybe i will start to to bump the calcium a bit for veg, maybe that help?dont remember how the nutrients are linked to each other when they eat, need to search it, but im lazy now and will procastinate a bit :D

Dunno if could also be, for some reason, because of a bit too much water

For now is mostly on the more exposed part to the light of the stems, so it could be from the light. Need to wait and see how it progresses

thank you buds, im wainting to see another another taned beast of yours :D

Peace :tiphat:

All my plants turn purple.
I don't see it as a bad thing. I like it.
Some girls have tans and freckles.:D

I remember someone posting on my thread that purpling is common with LED lighting.
He said that calcium helps.
 

PCBuds

Well-known member
I know right? She is sensitive from the start, dunno why, but its a chalenge and i like it even if i didnt did anything directly to fix it.
i dont think none of my girls will become anything remote close to yours size wise, but when i see the pics before and after apparently stabilized the environment a bit, they did grew quite a bit but being so older i guess thats normal..dunno maybe they will end up kinda big and just being mocking me the entire time

Peace :tiphat:

That happened just after I turned my lights up.

So I turned them down and it wasn't as bad, then I shortened the lights on time. I shut off the lights just as she started to fall asleep.

She could have just gotten enough light for the day.

My plant seemed to get used to the lights as well.
I had the lights cranked all the way up at the end.

It could be strain related too where some strains don't need as much light.
I think sativas can handle a lot more light than indicas ?


I would think that if she perks up every day, then you don't really need to worry about her.
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
That happened just after I turned my lights up.

So I turned them down and it wasn't as bad, then I shortened the lights on time. I shut off the lights just as she started to fall asleep.

She could have just gotten enough light for the day.

My plant seemed to get used to the lights as well.
I had the lights cranked all the way up at the end.

It could be strain related too where some strains don't need as much light.
I think sativas can handle a lot more light than indicas ?


I would think that if she perks up every day, then you don't really need to worry about her.

Dunno, i lowered to 50% and foliar them yesterday with epsoms and seaweed, today at middle of the day i foliar them again but with just epsoms. The light is at 55cm from Gorilla wich is the tallest one. At this stage the recomendations are closer and stronger so i dunno.
the leafs loose their soft touch to them, they feel more abrasive.
Will water them a bit with a bunch of calmag to see if it helps.

Peace :tiphat:
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
At least the Mazarilla looks its going to be bigger in the end compared to the Gorilla. She bush out good in this days. She is not so perky as before but dont crash and droop so hard like the other one
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The Killer, she is the only one that seems much better after the foliar of seaweed and epsoms of last night
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Gorila and her funky dark personality
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Peace :tiphat:
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
Today i watered the 3 bigger girls, 3 l each, the crashed Gorila in the right back looks so bad
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The Rocky Dirk, is reaching the outside of the pot wich is good comparing to the others since she is younger. Matured enough to show that is a she, i think she will still be a small plant a bit bigger tham the others
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The Killer drooped a bit after the watering but is also in sleep mode, she is a happy girl, prays all day long, seems she wants to start jump to stretch soon. On the bottom leaf there is a yellowish tinge, they all have it depending on the angle and what light is shining at the moment.
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The Mazarilla looks crashed like the Gorila but it is not, is droopy because of the watering, but i tucked her leafs, the side branches want to get out so i help a bit. In the pic of the top there are some leaf tips that seems a bit burned, but im not sure, the only one that showed some sort of deficiency was the Gorilla yellow up her cotyledons, all the others remain green
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The Gorilla perks up a tiny bit during the milddle of the day but crashes right away and at lights looks horrible, now even worst :ying:
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Since they all have that yellowish tinge (somehow the Rocky dont), i gave a pretty good ammount of calmag to see if it helps and a bit of seaweed.
The Gorilla was the one with the least run off, the Killer 2nd and Mazarilla 3rd, all of them with a good ammount of run off. Will be good to see how much they drink from now on.

I raised the lights, before 55cm from the tallest girl, now at +/- 70, raised the power to 60%. More branches are purpling up coming from top to bottom of the leaf stem, only one the top side of the branch, the bottom is still green. Dunno if the calmag will help somehow on this.
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Peace :Tiphat:
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
5 hours before lights out. The Gorilla looks less crashed. Between the lights starting 2 hours later, the higher lights and the calmag, something is different because in the past days at this time she was already crashed.
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The Killer praying to the light gods really good
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The Mazarilla de-tucked her leafs a bit, and looks good. I wonder if she would stress a lot if i removed those leafs yhat dont get any light, she is branchy and all of the side branches are in almost direct light, maybe i should have done it when she was a bit younger..The Killer have some like this that will not do much too. Since i left the water leftovers in the pot since yesterday, there is a bunch of root tips out of the bottom of the pot that were not yesterday, wonder if she wants even more water since she drank what was on the plate and now the tips are absorving the moisture that remains..gona feel the weight later on.
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The Rocky seems a bit less prayable, but not crashed. The soil is still moist but i feel i should give them some water with calmag too. Maybe ill do it today.
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And we have movement on the coco experiment with the Super Gold Auto 3 days after poting up..the Rh is not the best for a seedling, but just to see if this works i guess its ok..either way im going to play with the dome for the first few days trying to promote a higher rh..a few sticks to make a frame and plastic all around with some holes would be good..need to se if i find something for it..
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Peace :tiphat:
 

Sampas92

Just newbin
Thanks guys :thank you:
Yeah they jumped quite a bit and yes i feel things are more controled now, at least the environment. After all its the "first" time i grow in a tent so some learbing curve had to happen.

But now, what i ask all of you is, forgeting the crashed Gorila, since the Mazarilla and even more the Killer are perky during the entire day, could they be asking for litle less ammount of time with lights on?since both of them droop a little at the end of the day?

Killer, she is going to get a foliar of potassic soap, silica, and i dont think anything else, maybe seaweed.
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Mazarilla, same foliar
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crashed Gorilla, no trichs in sight. Wich i dont think should be like this, no foliar for her
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Super Gold coco experiment, didnt take the helmet off. I moistened the top and the dome again and i hope the helmet will be off in the morning by itself.
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Let me rephrase the question about the ammount of light hours. If you saw your girls pwrky along the day and droop a bit before lights out, what would come to mind?
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Peace :tiphat:
 
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