They look healthy. man. keep it going. 
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Sampas92
Just newbin
looking good sampas
killer mandarine could have self topped it might be an interesting outcome
good luck with them all
Hi bro, thanks, wish the double to you for the rest to come..
probably what mislead you thinking in a self toping was the same thay mislead me, the 4 distinct leaf tips, but they were just fingers of the leaf, ill show you in the next pics..
Talking about pics, today the Killer Mandarine and the Mazarilla made 15 days..wich is good but i wish it could be better..overall i think they are small comparing the grows in 7 and 5l pots that i did before, at the same stage, mainly i think because of the same old problem, too much or too less water..
2 days ago i was sayimg they looked droopy, and suggested light, but maybe it was lack of water..
I was feeling the bottom of the pot heavier tham the up, and the upper part dry, so a cluster fuck..what i did 2 days ago was giving them 300ml of plain water to each one, the younger seedling too..
The next day they didnt look so droopy appart from the gorilla but i think is because she is picky with the ph, or is something else in the roots..
Yesterday i give them 150ml and today nothing, will see if i still feel the bottom of the pots heavier than the top, for now the top feels moist but with not too much water and all of them said that they liked it, also i was seeing a bluish coloration in all of the older girls wich desapeared following the 300ml of water..
So the Killer 15 days old, she is the smallest of them, she didnt self top, but its funny how the side fingers of both leafs and bigger than the center one
Mazarilla,15 days, always happy mostly, even after getting squashed by the white hygrometer before the 300ml of water..
Gorilla, 13 days i think, always bitchin, but the new growth looks good so i kinda hope she get herself together and start grow better and happier
Rocky Dirk with its funky leaf, she is the less vigorous of them, show growth everyday but she is slow..
The weather isnt helping regarding rh, my single atomizer head is not enough, but i guess is better than nothing, being difficult maintain it above 55%, sometimes 50%..
overall i wished that the girls had a better start wich can be seen in how small they look overall, obviously my fault regarding the ammount of water i think and the choosen soil, regardless i hope they just take more time to reach maturity instead of less yield, i know they will finish like all of them do, if bigger or smaller, i hope for the first one..
Peace
Sampas92
Just newbin
Sampas92
Just newbin
Yesterday i bottom watered all of them 500ml of plain ph'd water and raised the power of the light to around 35%(?), all of them were perky today but the Gorila drooped hard today in the end of the light cycle of today
Since i had the Root Aphid problem i try to have the best eagle eye possible and check and recheck to look for something whenever it may be and i found something..
When i was about to clean the plates where the pots sit in i notice something it shouldnt be there, and the worst of it MOVING!!!
Fuck me, not again...maybe not
Why? Because they dont look like Root Aphids, they were brown/redish and much bigger, also they got wings on later stages of their life so lets go check the yellow stickys for the wing version..no, just some gnats that were caugth in the early days of the girls life and some cat hair, so everything like in the last week..
sorry for the bad quality
They are whitish, all of them in that small size, the brownish ones are dead, i made a 2 second video but i dont know how to upload it..
They move fast, much faster than the Root Aphids, they move what looks like antenas a lot.
ANYONE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE?
I was searched for springtails online, this ones dont seem to jump, and came to the conclusion they might be soil mites, wich ones i dunno, if beneficial or not even less of it i know..
What i do know is that all of the girls have them, so it came from somewhere, from the coco, the biobizz soil, or the wormcastings. Maybe the last one, in the past iv read from people that they came to the conclusion that some pests come from the soil bags or whatever we use, either for bad storage of the store or bad management for either brand of soil.
I know that for example the gorilla is stressed, either from soil, ph, lights, for me it could be this things. She have one single tiny pistil, the mazarilla too, if this from stress or they are already entering in pre flower i dunno.
And why are they outside and some dead?Because of the neem cake in the mix? Bad environment in the soil for whatever reason?
Guess some questions i will never know but if anyone know what they are or suspect or can lead me in some direction please, scream it
Rocky Dirk, the set of 3 fingers is also funky
Killer Mandarine
Mazarilla, i dont like that spots one that leaf, they kinda look when i bruised a leaf from a girl in a past grow from rubbing too much on her with the fingers, but i didnt do it to this one, and notice how other leaf born and grow
Gorilla, look how sad this girl is on the end of the day, now she is not paller from increasing the light power, so maybe is just something of in the root zone?ph?those things?i know the first 2, 3 weeks are detrimental on growing autos and they must have the best environment possible to thrive, but fuck me im still convinced all of them should be bigger
Peace
Since i had the Root Aphid problem i try to have the best eagle eye possible and check and recheck to look for something whenever it may be and i found something..
When i was about to clean the plates where the pots sit in i notice something it shouldnt be there, and the worst of it MOVING!!!
Fuck me, not again...maybe not
Why? Because they dont look like Root Aphids, they were brown/redish and much bigger, also they got wings on later stages of their life so lets go check the yellow stickys for the wing version..no, just some gnats that were caugth in the early days of the girls life and some cat hair, so everything like in the last week..
sorry for the bad quality
They are whitish, all of them in that small size, the brownish ones are dead, i made a 2 second video but i dont know how to upload it..
They move fast, much faster than the Root Aphids, they move what looks like antenas a lot.
ANYONE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE?
I was searched for springtails online, this ones dont seem to jump, and came to the conclusion they might be soil mites, wich ones i dunno, if beneficial or not even less of it i know..
What i do know is that all of the girls have them, so it came from somewhere, from the coco, the biobizz soil, or the wormcastings. Maybe the last one, in the past iv read from people that they came to the conclusion that some pests come from the soil bags or whatever we use, either for bad storage of the store or bad management for either brand of soil.
I know that for example the gorilla is stressed, either from soil, ph, lights, for me it could be this things. She have one single tiny pistil, the mazarilla too, if this from stress or they are already entering in pre flower i dunno.
And why are they outside and some dead?Because of the neem cake in the mix? Bad environment in the soil for whatever reason?
Guess some questions i will never know but if anyone know what they are or suspect or can lead me in some direction please, scream it
Rocky Dirk, the set of 3 fingers is also funky
Killer Mandarine
Mazarilla, i dont like that spots one that leaf, they kinda look when i bruised a leaf from a girl in a past grow from rubbing too much on her with the fingers, but i didnt do it to this one, and notice how other leaf born and grow
Gorilla, look how sad this girl is on the end of the day, now she is not paller from increasing the light power, so maybe is just something of in the root zone?ph?those things?i know the first 2, 3 weeks are detrimental on growing autos and they must have the best environment possible to thrive, but fuck me im still convinced all of them should be bigger
Peace
PCBuds
Well-known member
You might have gotten lucky and you've got soil mites.
Only a small percentage of soil mites are harmful to plants.
Springtails are beneficial to plants too.
These are soil mites ...
(you need some better pictures. lol)
(Remember how root aphids have tailpipes.??)
You might be able to welcome them into your garden
,??
JustGrowing420
Well-known member
The plants look great sampas, stop stressing! (easier said than done )
Yeah those look like plain soil mites, I had gotten them with a bag of Cannabiogen's CBG soil mix.
At first they freaked me out cause they were very numerous, like you show, after some weeks with low rH they disappeared.
The plants didnlt seem to mind them. Don't freak out if you find one or two wandering on a plant.
One thing that I observed, which may be a coincidence, is that when they were around, fungus gnats were minimal.
)Yeah those look like plain soil mites, I had gotten them with a bag of Cannabiogen's CBG soil mix.
At first they freaked me out cause they were very numerous, like you show, after some weeks with low rH they disappeared.
The plants didnlt seem to mind them. Don't freak out if you find one or two wandering on a plant.
One thing that I observed, which may be a coincidence, is that when they were around, fungus gnats were minimal.
Most mites eat same shit fungus gnats eat. The dead organic matter, not the roots. Some mites are predatory, too. So you probably have some small helpers in there! Altrough there are some bad mites out there, as well, it's much rare to have one that does damage to the plants.
Sampas92
Just newbin
Thanks gizmo, today i went to check on the frickers and they were still there doing their thing wathever may be..
i used a jelewry loupe but it wasnt much better than the phone, need to try combining it with the phone to see if i can manage anything better
Peace
Sampas92
Just newbin
So after 2 days some of the little things remain alive in the plates, they still look withish and the same size..
i searched online, text, images and youtube and came to the conclusion they indeed are Hypoasis, im a newb so dont not 100% sure obviously but from what iv seen, its them, wich is good and made me happy mostly because thos wormcastings were the most cheap of them all and mostly buy them not because of the nutrients they may hold but to promote microbial life in the pots to some extent, im happy with the bonus and now think how they would deal with the RA that i had before.
Later ill bring some pics of the girls
Peace
i searched online, text, images and youtube and came to the conclusion they indeed are Hypoasis, im a newb so dont not 100% sure obviously but from what iv seen, its them, wich is good and made me happy mostly because thos wormcastings were the most cheap of them all and mostly buy them not because of the nutrients they may hold but to promote microbial life in the pots to some extent, im happy with the bonus and now think how they would deal with the RA that i had before.
Later ill bring some pics of the girls
Peace
Sampas92
Just newbin
After increasing the light power yesterday, today they seemed fine with it, appart from the Gorilla that is always droopy even if is growing everyday
Rocky Dirk, she seems to funk out a bit of its funkyness and is growing better
Killer, is the less developed, see it in number of nodes, slower and smaller overall, the funky leafs are getting a better shape and the new growth looks normal
Mazarilla i like her alot, she is the happiest one, her and the Gorilla are the bigger and faster ones
Gorilla, she is stressed, the only one that is never happy, dryish pot, wetish pot, higher rh, lower rh, she always look droppy and even worst at the end of the day, even though she grows everyday.
The thing i would like to know is why, im not stressing about it, but at each mistake that we solve we become better also i like to rant and think my newbiness outloud
You guys know when a girl is stressed and so droopy that when try to raise up a leaf by hand you find that strength in the leaf stem pullying down?that force? Is how she is, every single day, not always, from mid day more or less she start to drop reaching the end of the day like that sad little letuce.
She doesnt seem to show nutrients related problems, wich could be a possibility with ph problems?neither lacking or excessing, maybe a little darker green that could be but would that present like this?
maybe less light power?maybe she is a little more sensitive to that?or a bit of everything?
i know she is growing the same but still...
After lights out i foliar them with Pro-Silicate and Green Explosion, its the first time they got the silicate, at minimal dosage to see how they present themselves tomorro, also bottom water them 500ml of plain water each
There is a pot that i mixed yesterday and will be resting maybe 2 weeks before seeding anything in it..its the 6L aeropot with the coco mixed with the Kalong ferts..
Since i wasnt sure what the white criters where i didnt used castings wich now i regret, but whatever. I had a rest of Biobizz light mix, 1l of it, mixed the basalt, gypsum, the Kalong ferts, Powder, Complete and Seaweed and Mycos by Trabe. 1l of perlite, fill the rest with coco and 4 handfulls of vulcanic rock (think im not forgeting nothing, oh neem flour)
So is 16% of soil, 16% of perlite, 68% coco, moistened well and spent 10/15mnts breaking bigger clumps and mixing it really good. Ill seed an Super Gold auto fem, bulk seed without seed bank, freebie from the online store. Since i now what the criter are i think i will remove a bit of soil, sprinkle almost and handfull of castings, bad it will not do.
Peace
Rocky Dirk, she seems to funk out a bit of its funkyness and is growing better
Killer, is the less developed, see it in number of nodes, slower and smaller overall, the funky leafs are getting a better shape and the new growth looks normal
Mazarilla i like her alot, she is the happiest one, her and the Gorilla are the bigger and faster ones
Gorilla, she is stressed, the only one that is never happy, dryish pot, wetish pot, higher rh, lower rh, she always look droppy and even worst at the end of the day, even though she grows everyday.
The thing i would like to know is why, im not stressing about it, but at each mistake that we solve we become better also i like to rant and think my newbiness outloud
You guys know when a girl is stressed and so droopy that when try to raise up a leaf by hand you find that strength in the leaf stem pullying down?that force? Is how she is, every single day, not always, from mid day more or less she start to drop reaching the end of the day like that sad little letuce.
She doesnt seem to show nutrients related problems, wich could be a possibility with ph problems?neither lacking or excessing, maybe a little darker green that could be but would that present like this?
maybe less light power?maybe she is a little more sensitive to that?or a bit of everything?
i know she is growing the same but still...
After lights out i foliar them with Pro-Silicate and Green Explosion, its the first time they got the silicate, at minimal dosage to see how they present themselves tomorro, also bottom water them 500ml of plain water each
There is a pot that i mixed yesterday and will be resting maybe 2 weeks before seeding anything in it..its the 6L aeropot with the coco mixed with the Kalong ferts..
Since i wasnt sure what the white criters where i didnt used castings wich now i regret, but whatever. I had a rest of Biobizz light mix, 1l of it, mixed the basalt, gypsum, the Kalong ferts, Powder, Complete and Seaweed and Mycos by Trabe. 1l of perlite, fill the rest with coco and 4 handfulls of vulcanic rock (think im not forgeting nothing, oh neem flour)
So is 16% of soil, 16% of perlite, 68% coco, moistened well and spent 10/15mnts breaking bigger clumps and mixing it really good. Ill seed an Super Gold auto fem, bulk seed without seed bank, freebie from the online store. Since i now what the criter are i think i will remove a bit of soil, sprinkle almost and handfull of castings, bad it will not do.
Peace
JustGrowing420
Well-known member
They're looking very good!
You can still mix the worm castings in no prob, it would help cooking also with the microbial population it carries.
But I think for soil to "cook" properly its also has to be a certain volume. I don't know if letting 6 liters of mix just sit would be enough.
And temperature plays a big role too, the soil batches I mixed in warmer weather raised their internal temps so much you could feel by hand, now in winter slight temp rise but not sure if it makes any difference or truly decomposed the mix components.
Just some thoughts!
You can still mix the worm castings in no prob, it would help cooking also with the microbial population it carries.
But I think for soil to "cook" properly its also has to be a certain volume. I don't know if letting 6 liters of mix just sit would be enough.
And temperature plays a big role too, the soil batches I mixed in warmer weather raised their internal temps so much you could feel by hand, now in winter slight temp rise but not sure if it makes any difference or truly decomposed the mix components.
Just some thoughts!
Sampas92
Just newbin
Thanks on the thoughts!!
i will add the castings today..
Im leting it rest because for example, i think i saw a while back biobizz recomending on the all mix to wet it a bit and let it rest 2 weeks prior to add plants to it to start the miceobial life..
and is because of it im doing it, this mix dont have bone meal, or blood, kelp or those usually used organic ammendments that usuallg need cooking..
i searched on the GuanoKalong website and didnt swe any reference to cook the soil after mixing their dry nutrients..
but the coco is inert and almost all of the mix is coco so i guess it can be a bit alove after this 2 weeks even in a small 6l pot?
didint know that about the volume, thanks.
the temps are the same of the tent, 24c light time, 22 night time, also i can see how fast it drys dueing this 2 weeks to have better watering pratices when i seed it..
Glad everyone thinks the plants look good, thanks
Peace
Sampas92
Just newbin
So +/- remaing hours of ligth and the Gorilla look more perky today with the light at 25%.
I say this because in the past days at this time and power at 35% she would look more droopy, and all of the day the lower leafs would be always droopy wich is not so much today.
The Rocky also looks perkier, its younger so i guezz is normal that a lower intesity is better for her but if at lights out the Gorilla remains perky and not droopy like the past days i will keep the light at 25% for tomorrow and see if it improves more and manage it from there.
Some hash that i got that smells a lot like mandarines
Peace
I say this because in the past days at this time and power at 35% she would look more droopy, and all of the day the lower leafs would be always droopy wich is not so much today.
The Rocky also looks perkier, its younger so i guezz is normal that a lower intesity is better for her but if at lights out the Gorilla remains perky and not droopy like the past days i will keep the light at 25% for tomorrow and see if it improves more and manage it from there.
Some hash that i got that smells a lot like mandarines
Peace
Sampas92
Just newbin
So their night arrived and, as you can see, before lights out the Gorilla is droopy, like everyday, less than yesterday.
In the end, i consider she must be stressing on the overall environment and since the other 3 were fine with it, for tomorrow the light will be at 35% like before and will continue to rise as the days go by, its 3 to 1 so majority wins.
The supposely Hypoasis Miles that i think i have, usually hangs around on the top of the soil and even on the pots, so i looked for anybody partying in the Rocky pot since is the only one without perlite on top.
Sure enough i could track 2 of them in the soil, they are so tiny, even the dust of the perlite is bigger. None in the pots, but they are there and thats enough. Tomorrow is my day off and ill be adding the castings with them to the coco experiment
2 girls are pushing out pistils, the Killer and the Gorilla, just saying they are maturing, that they are females and getting ready to start to stretch when the time comes, dunno, maybe one week and a half, two, three?
The Mazarilla dont have any pistil on sight and i think i dont see anything start to form
The foliar of the night today was Mobet (potassic soap), Pro-Silicate and a tiny pinch of epsoms.
I asked the company of the Pro how much time on average it will hold alone mixed with distiled water and they responded to me up to a week, so from now on i will have a spray bottle with always the just the Pro and renew it every 5 days. I will foliar them everyday with it unless the days i give them something else.
Peace
In the end, i consider she must be stressing on the overall environment and since the other 3 were fine with it, for tomorrow the light will be at 35% like before and will continue to rise as the days go by, its 3 to 1 so majority wins.
The supposely Hypoasis Miles that i think i have, usually hangs around on the top of the soil and even on the pots, so i looked for anybody partying in the Rocky pot since is the only one without perlite on top.
Sure enough i could track 2 of them in the soil, they are so tiny, even the dust of the perlite is bigger. None in the pots, but they are there and thats enough. Tomorrow is my day off and ill be adding the castings with them to the coco experiment
2 girls are pushing out pistils, the Killer and the Gorilla, just saying they are maturing, that they are females and getting ready to start to stretch when the time comes, dunno, maybe one week and a half, two, three?
The Mazarilla dont have any pistil on sight and i think i dont see anything start to form
The foliar of the night today was Mobet (potassic soap), Pro-Silicate and a tiny pinch of epsoms.
I asked the company of the Pro how much time on average it will hold alone mixed with distiled water and they responded to me up to a week, so from now on i will have a spray bottle with always the just the Pro and renew it every 5 days. I will foliar them everyday with it unless the days i give them something else.
Peace
