From the TSW 2000 to the FCE 3000

[JustGrowing420]

hey, maybe I was talking out of my ass but I let every batch I mix sit for a couple weeks, so the microorganisms can break down whatever I put in there, not only to avoid burn with "hot" components.

The allmix directions say that indeed, always follow directions of manufacturer hehe

We also have pretty similar lineup on autos this round, I also got a mazarilla and killer mandy but fighting gorillaz instead of your gorilla, close in timeline too. Interesting!

 

[Sampas92]

hey, maybe I was talking out of my ass but I let every batch I mix sit for a couple weeks, so the microorganisms can break down whatever I put in there, not only to avoid burn with "hot" components.

The allmix directions say that indeed, always follow directions of manufacturer hehe

We also have pretty similar lineup on autos this round, I also got a mazarilla and killer mandy but fighting gorillaz instead of your gorilla, close in timeline too. Interesting!

I like when people talk out their ass, thats how i learned a lot here

Yeah the line up is similar but i already know that mines will be nothing compared to the ones you guys grow

Peace

 

[JustGrowing420]

mines will be nothing compared to the ones you guys grow

Peace

wait wait! i sense a bad mood here, let me show you my autos from some months ago, 3 for being exact (from october)

that's a whole 7 grams total you are looking at maybe

 

[Sampas92]

wait wait! i sense a bad mood here, let me show you my autos from some months ago, 3 for being exact (from october)





that's a whole 7 grams total you are looking at maybe

Since mine are so small i dont think i will yeld much more than that, its not bad mood, i like to expect the worst, and if anything is better than the worst ill be happy

Peace

 

[Sampas92]

Today the Gorilla looks more perky and less droopy today, i want to see how she will be 5 hours from now when the lights shut off

Today i cant manage the rh above 50, it rest at 45% +/-, its been a really dry, coldish winter with clear skys and sun almost everyday, i was a great year to finish cannabis. The weather reports that February will be rainy, way off season, rain was supose to be in November and December.

Whatever, thinking on what to foliar them at lights out and im thinking in Mobet and seaweed, maybe a pinch of epsom again. I need to introduce the neem too, maybe 2 days from now.

See ya later
Peace

 

[PCBuds]

... I need to introduce the neem too, maybe 2 days from now.

It's my turn to talk outta my ass, but neem might kill your soil mites ?
And if you are using the neem to fight root aphids or fungas gnats, you probably don't need it because the soil mites will eat them.

Look into it first anyway...

 

[PCBuds]

I found this info...

https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/so...-bushy.118275/


I don't think that the link is working ??

It's this...

 

[Sampas92]

It's my turn to talk outta my ass, but neem might kill your soil mites ?
And if you are using the neem to fight root aphids or fungas gnats, you probably don't need it because the soil mites will eat them.

Look into it first anyway...

Thanks buds , i know about it but is for foliar, not to irrigate them..

For the moment im not battling anything qnd i hope i will not in the future since i think im closw to buy the ingredients to do STS.

I already mixed the catings to the coco experiment just because i think the mites came from them also remoistened the mix cause was quite dry, but not so hard like if it was all mix or light mix, is very fluffy, both wet and dry.

Peace

 

[gizmo666]

plants are looking great sampas
i'm not seeing anything wrong there
seaweed and epsom is always a good mix

 

[PCBuds]

Thanks buds , i know about it but is for foliar, not to irrigate them..

Oh,.. OK.
That makes sense.
You can probably treat for spider mites and other leaf eaters without upsetting your soil mites.

Interestingly, apparently neem is banned in Canada?
I don't know why? It is a natural product.

 

[Sampas92]

End of the day for them.
Like everyday the Gorilla is droopy, what to say?she is bitchy

The other 3 are all happy. The mites still alive in the bottom of the pots, guess is because where is more moisture. All of them look with a healthy green, the parts yhat are getting bigger show that pattern of green untill it gets darker, all of them have the leafs very very soft to the touch (i miss this ), they are just small overall

After the soap, epsoms and seaweed foliar, wich ill repeat in 4 hours, right before their next day

Peace

 

[Mars Hydro Led]

Seems they are pretty enjoying the light

 

[Sampas92]

Seems they are pretty enjoying the light

Yes they seem to love it, unfortanly they are small i will not take everything this light offers in this grow but you can bet i will in the next one.

One thing, she runs way cooler than the ts that i have at the same power. Cooler driver, cooler leds, i touch them directly and they are just a tiny bit warm. The only thing i think could be better is the way the driver rest on the light, but the girls seem to love it, like you usually say, they look energized

Peace

 

[Sampas92]

Today the light was at 45%, all of them looked good the entire day, the light is set up at 50% for tomorrow

The Gorila was really perky along the day but ended droopy like always. Also she is taller, it was something i noticed imediatly after opening the tent, the top seems that wants to start to grow a bunch of nodes, like when they preparing to flower, maybe is starting to stretch. I sniped out the leaflet and respective branch from her and the Mazarilla too since no major development is happening

The Mazarilla on the goodmorning foliar had an acident and got perlite all over, its all cleaned now with a brush, it was a bit harsh one but was what i have in hand

The Rocky is still doing its thing, her side branches are developing day by day, i sniped the leaflet too

The Killer too

I foliar their Pro-Silicate and say them goodnight

I want them to finish because i want to see how developed the roots are, im eager to know it, and i feel there is not going to be a big rootball since they are so tiny.
Stupid thing is, in the past grows with the light mix soil and a bit of all mix in the bottom of the pot and smaller ones, i got bigger plants right from the start.
No Mycos or Great White mixed in the soil like this time, no neem flour, no gypsum, no basalt, no Kalong nutrients, no coco mixed like this time, no foliars, growing on sils in a small deficient cab in airflow, cleaniness. Fuck, i growed 2 autos on an 11l liter cat box, one on each side, under 14w sils, where i burned them hard with them, had a rough start because of overall conditions, my first grow, they were bigger than this ones and is not genetic fault because i grew them in the past grow and they were fine.
Amazing
in fact Biobizz dont recomend the all mix for seedlings, i pot them up in it because i did it with photoperiod ones and they were good, maybe the auto genes dont like it that much. The soils are different in fertilizers obviously but also the all mix holds water better than the light mix and is less fluffy.

It could be from over or underwatering but and even though the heater dry them quite a bit while germinating them while inside of the tent in the middle of the pots, i tryed to be carefull and only given them around 5% of water of the total ammount of L of the pot, feel the weight, etc. But than i think that if it would be over or under watering at least the killer and the mazarilla wouldnt be always happy and praying, only drooping on lights of.

Maybe the Mycos that i mixed with the soil was a bit to much for them being so young? Than again, i consider then at some point they would be over it and grow normally?

The temps were always stable, the heater cope with it good, the rh not so much, but it was never under 44%, mostly around the 50's, is not the best but there where just a few abrupt changes in the beggining when the "humidifier" was smaller, i know autos generally are picky, but consider the older cab and conditions, my bet is on the soil, either being the all mix or the other things i mixed.
I just know that i ended up with a worst than before when i thought i was doing better, we newbs are amazing

Or maybe im wrong and they will start to grow like mad, wich i would love but i think it will not be the case here.

Either way, since we cannot cry over the past and need to prepare the future, i already have a 50l bag of light mix in the online store cart waiting on me if i remember i need something else.

Peace

 

[Sampas92]

2 hours into night cicle and the Mazarilla and the Gorilla are sleeping hard, the Rocky is sleeping too, the Killer dont look much different from when lights on

Peace

 

[Sampas92]

I switched up the things a bit.
Instead of having the humidifier pluged to the controler, having it on 24/7 trying to raise the rh effortlessly, i pluged my exctrator instead.

Right of the bat is strange to not ear it 24/7, but when you less expect it, your ear it, because i set the rh at night to be at 60%, it spikes to 61/%, and the exctrator down it to 57/58. Considering the weather is not helping me now with 30ish, i dont think its bad.

i have the clip on fan running 24/7 so there is air movement, not in all of the tent, because i only have that one running, but the exctrator turns on quite a few times so i think while in veg it will work, if worked for others i dont think why not work with me.

The only thing thats concerns me is the heat. Now that the exctrator is not always on i feel the heat will build up slowy, the heater will run harder, spending more electricity, trashing the one i save with the exctrator.

Since the probe is on the left wall of the tent and the heater is infront of the air intake on the right wall, my logic says that the right side will get much hoter than the other side even with clipon fan on the side of the heater, simply enough because of the irradiation.
So i layed 2 more hygrometers on each side, laying on the pots, to see how the temp vary from on side to the other. If it does, i will put a small fan in front of the intake trying to help with.

Lets see, im giving it some hours to see how things evolve.

Peace

 

[Sampas92]

5 hours before lights out and all of them look good.
Its clear how much taller the Gorila, also that top seems that is about to start flowering, bummer

Regarding how the tent worked meantime, i dont like it. The Rh is on point, but the temps are too but after much effort and now the heater is always working. The room is much more hoter and dryer, inside the tent i notice the higher rh% but the temps are not equal in all of the footprint. On the right side the hygrometer register 26.5c, the one on the left reads 24.4 and the probe of the controler reads ~24c. Even with my hand i can feel the heat irradition on the right side and not on the left and that is going to affect the girls differently.

I thinked about switching the probe to the right side but i figure it will be the same, different readings on both sides but on a lower scale.

The only solution i can figure to maintain the grow how it is now is by placing a small fan in front of the intake and heater to help heat enter the grow, if that dont work i will switch back to the exctrator always on and will buy more atomizer heads to be able to produce more rh, lets see, but it is money i didnt want to spend.

Peace

 

[Mars Hydro Led]

Yes they seem to love it, unfortanly they are small i will not take everything this light offers in this grow but you can bet i will in the next one.

One thing, she runs way cooler than the ts that i have at the same power. Cooler driver, cooler leds, i touch them directly and they are just a tiny bit warm. The only thing i think could be better is the way the driver rest on the light, but the girls seem to love it, like you usually say, they look energized

Peace

Yes, we made some updates based on the TS lights. only need to spend a little more money to get the new light.

 

[Sampas92]

Yes, we made some updates based on the TS lights. only need to spend a little more money to get the new light.

We all want is to see the new ts light

Peace

 

[Sampas92]

So that little fan does some work and helps to provide a more homogeneous temp on the entire tent. The thing is i cant dot it without one girl get the wind dorectly, and i dont want it.
So i went i already buyed another atomizer, 3 single heads. With the one that i have its 4 and i think that will cope with the rh. Hell if the 3 are enough instead of spray the girls i can start to fumigate them with the single atomizer instead.

The light today was at 55% and they cope with it good

The Gorila is in the stretch phase, that top seems to want to explode, i already knew that the outcome was going to be small plants on "big" pots with small yield, but i had that 1% of hope you know, maybe i could have save them if i managed the rh sooner, ill never know

The Killer is praying hard, in better words, i noticed them more perky and happy with the more stabilized rh wich is normal just not the fussy Gorila.

The Mazarilla, this one i feel will start to stretch in one or two days, the Killer too. She got some thing in just one leaf, i think is because of the brunching to clean the perlite, but i dunno any thoughts?
She was a bit droopy in the last 2 hours of light, not anything like the Gorila, but droopyish

The Rocky Dirk

I think tomorrow i will soak a seed to start the coco experiment, i hope the new comer can cope well with the ammount of light.

I check the bottom of the pots everyday and after yesterday watering today i saw the first roots on the bottom of the pots of the bigger girls, looking for that humidity in the plate, i wondered if they wanted more water because of the roots looking for it and i guess they are so 500ml for the 3 girls like yesterday

Searching now for black opaque small containers to store the silver nitrate solution, the sodium solution, and the mix of both. The most trickiest one will be the spray bottle to store the mix. But since i probably will not spray them and just a brush or a q-tip i dunno.
the beer bottles here are all brown so i guess i could use them but the only ones with screw cap are 1l size so its alot for such minute ammounts of solutions. Im in the search!!!
My mom works at a lab, she say to do like them and wrap whatever container in silver foil and thats it, maybe ill go that way.
Peace