Riddleme
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As the guy that wrote "The Truth About Flushing" (Google it) years ago I want to first address all the new growers that may read this.
You will find a lot of hype and a lot of myths as well as a lot of BS in pot forums. You will also find little nuggets of truth, but you have to look for em and it means a lot of reading. My advice to new growers has always been, go read regular garden forums, Google "Al Tapla" and read everything you can find !!! He is a regular garden guru and his instruction is pure gold. Learn to grow and keep a plant healthy. Learn to read the plants needs and get 3 good harvest under your belt. Then start experimenting !!! and see stuff for yourself, keep an open mind and never put your foot down as this is how we learn new things. I've been growing for over 40 years and I still have experiments going in every grow, my current grow ,,,,
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=295624
Has 4 experiments running at the moment. There are also pics and post that will verify things I'm about to share
My point, new growers, is there are a lot of ways to grow this plant and you need to find what works for you and fills your needs. The best way to do this is try things that you find via reading/research and observe the results for yourself.
As already stated the flushing debate has gone on for many years and I have always stood on the flushing is bad side. If you actually go read my post on the truth about flushing you'll see it does have links to science backing up the points, but I have been told there are dead links now these years later. Doesn't matter, I'm not here to pimp the article or to argue, I'm here to settle this decades long debate and give the other side their science lol.
Yeppers, both sides are right in terms of the finished product and for new growers this may well be the most important thing I share with you today. Good buds, non harsh, white ash, tasty buds are the result of a proper cure ,,,,,,, period ! Bad taste, harshness, snap crackle pop and black ash are the result of unfermented sugars, not nutes and are the result of a bad/improper cure ,,,,,,, period ! Take a teaspoon of sugar and apply a flame to it, you'll see what I mean. It is of utmost importance that you learn how to properly cure em !!!
I myself, do things very differently then most, when my plants are ready to harvest I water em with boiling water, then leave em under the lights for 3~4 days I keep em green and healthy, I use chem nutes and I don't flush at the end. If you read my grow journal, you'll see independent smoke reports that describe my buds. I invented and use a fermentation chamber to dry and cure my herb and it is based on the way tobacco and other plants are cured, a brief description,,,,
https://boltonsmokersclub.wordpress...vouring-and-finishing-tobacco-for-cigarettes/
There are pics of my fermentation chamber in my journal. note: I do not use the extreme temps & humidity, but the stages do occur as described in my process.
The science is basic and simple and is also very well known. In the absence of O2 (oxygen) ALL plants go into a survival mode converting sugars into alcohol known as fermentation (what we call the cure) I have attached a pic that shows this process.
My watering with boiling water imitates a flood condition and starves the roots of O2. N is the major component for the required energy to properly convert the sugars to alcohol and once I boil em they start pullin on the leaves because they can no longer get nutes from the roots.
Here is the science with regard to how plants handle floods ,,,,
https://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Flooded_soils#Fermentation_under_Anoxic_Conditions
When you flush at the end or limit the nute regimen and cause the plants to fade you are taking away the "other" way that plants get and use O2 which is via gas exchange thru the stomata. As leaves fade and die the stomata are decreased and you thereby decrease the gas exchange and access to O2 once again causing the plant go into survival mode.
Here is the science ,,,,
https://www.hydrofarm.com/resources/articles/factors_plantgrowth.php
Folks this is Botany 101, there is nothing complicated about it. The advantage of the method that ThaiBliss describes is that in the low dose feeding the required energy to process the sugars properly is available and the swelling being described is because the roots are still functioning though not at peak performance levels.
In the end both camps are right for different reasons. IMO the flush, low dose feed and fade methods will enhance the flavor profile (the fading of tea leaves is how different flavors are obtained) For me this occurs in my chamber. The keep em green camp feed till the end are getting better yields and have healthier stress resistant plants.
This natural process still occurs even if you don't boil, flood, or flush/fade your plants it simply takes a bit longer and requires a different mindset as to how you dry. You want em to dry slowly to take advantage of the process to obtain a proper cure. Back in the day we dried em in bundles wrapped in sheets to facilitate this process.
Two other practices widely known are to girdle the stems and/or to break the stems knocking the plants over before harvest. Both of these methods require a few weeks for results to occur properly.
And there you have it the science that explains why it all works and as I said earlier growers should try all methods and discover what works best for them !!!!
You will find a lot of hype and a lot of myths as well as a lot of BS in pot forums. You will also find little nuggets of truth, but you have to look for em and it means a lot of reading. My advice to new growers has always been, go read regular garden forums, Google "Al Tapla" and read everything you can find !!! He is a regular garden guru and his instruction is pure gold. Learn to grow and keep a plant healthy. Learn to read the plants needs and get 3 good harvest under your belt. Then start experimenting !!! and see stuff for yourself, keep an open mind and never put your foot down as this is how we learn new things. I've been growing for over 40 years and I still have experiments going in every grow, my current grow ,,,,
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=295624
Has 4 experiments running at the moment. There are also pics and post that will verify things I'm about to share
My point, new growers, is there are a lot of ways to grow this plant and you need to find what works for you and fills your needs. The best way to do this is try things that you find via reading/research and observe the results for yourself.
As already stated the flushing debate has gone on for many years and I have always stood on the flushing is bad side. If you actually go read my post on the truth about flushing you'll see it does have links to science backing up the points, but I have been told there are dead links now these years later. Doesn't matter, I'm not here to pimp the article or to argue, I'm here to settle this decades long debate and give the other side their science lol.
Yeppers, both sides are right in terms of the finished product and for new growers this may well be the most important thing I share with you today. Good buds, non harsh, white ash, tasty buds are the result of a proper cure ,,,,,,, period ! Bad taste, harshness, snap crackle pop and black ash are the result of unfermented sugars, not nutes and are the result of a bad/improper cure ,,,,,,, period ! Take a teaspoon of sugar and apply a flame to it, you'll see what I mean. It is of utmost importance that you learn how to properly cure em !!!
I myself, do things very differently then most, when my plants are ready to harvest I water em with boiling water, then leave em under the lights for 3~4 days I keep em green and healthy, I use chem nutes and I don't flush at the end. If you read my grow journal, you'll see independent smoke reports that describe my buds. I invented and use a fermentation chamber to dry and cure my herb and it is based on the way tobacco and other plants are cured, a brief description,,,,
From Here ,,,,
https://boltonsmokersclub.wordpress...vouring-and-finishing-tobacco-for-cigarettes/
There are pics of my fermentation chamber in my journal. note: I do not use the extreme temps & humidity, but the stages do occur as described in my process.
The science is basic and simple and is also very well known. In the absence of O2 (oxygen) ALL plants go into a survival mode converting sugars into alcohol known as fermentation (what we call the cure) I have attached a pic that shows this process.
My watering with boiling water imitates a flood condition and starves the roots of O2. N is the major component for the required energy to properly convert the sugars to alcohol and once I boil em they start pullin on the leaves because they can no longer get nutes from the roots.
Here is the science with regard to how plants handle floods ,,,,
From Here ,,,,,
https://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Flooded_soils#Fermentation_under_Anoxic_Conditions
When you flush at the end or limit the nute regimen and cause the plants to fade you are taking away the "other" way that plants get and use O2 which is via gas exchange thru the stomata. As leaves fade and die the stomata are decreased and you thereby decrease the gas exchange and access to O2 once again causing the plant go into survival mode.
Here is the science ,,,,
From Here ,,,,
https://www.hydrofarm.com/resources/articles/factors_plantgrowth.php
Folks this is Botany 101, there is nothing complicated about it. The advantage of the method that ThaiBliss describes is that in the low dose feeding the required energy to process the sugars properly is available and the swelling being described is because the roots are still functioning though not at peak performance levels.
In the end both camps are right for different reasons. IMO the flush, low dose feed and fade methods will enhance the flavor profile (the fading of tea leaves is how different flavors are obtained) For me this occurs in my chamber. The keep em green camp feed till the end are getting better yields and have healthier stress resistant plants.
This natural process still occurs even if you don't boil, flood, or flush/fade your plants it simply takes a bit longer and requires a different mindset as to how you dry. You want em to dry slowly to take advantage of the process to obtain a proper cure. Back in the day we dried em in bundles wrapped in sheets to facilitate this process.
Two other practices widely known are to girdle the stems and/or to break the stems knocking the plants over before harvest. Both of these methods require a few weeks for results to occur properly.
And there you have it the science that explains why it all works and as I said earlier growers should try all methods and discover what works best for them !!!!
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