Federal agents bust Denver grows via store sales

[darby crash]

Being a guerilla grower, I buy my supplies at the hydro shop and drive straight home. Let the cops follow me there. Hope they have fun watching me dump it in a compost pile. Then they'll have to wait until April before I start thinking about using it.

 

[Blue Dot]

How on earth could they justify not staking these places out while cannabis is still illegal?

Why spend all that time and resources to stakes these places out hoping to get lucky in the end when all they have to do is go bust the dispensaries in Denver. Would be a lot quicker.

Pot's still illegal under Fed law.

 

[HossCartwright]

Common sense 101: Don't grow pot in Aurora. Don't grow pot in CO without at least a Dr's recommendation. Don't grow over 99 plants under any one license/recommendation.

Is that so difficult? Yeah, it sucks, but these have been the rules forever. And, until they change you gotta know them and play by them, or else.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

I don't think it sucks to have 99 plants. It does suck to see the laziest bust ever is growing in popularity.

We may be at war but please don't act accordingly.... unless you fight like Ghandi.

 

[Possum]

no so fast....

no so fast....

im not sure the police have to right to walk onto your property if you have a fence up.

so they cannot get close enough to smell anything - espcially with the proper ventillation/odor scrubbers.

trips to hydostores do not a warrent make.

plus - keep a proper legal plant grow in plain site and keep everything else under wraps.

any most of all follow the limits for your state if you can.



plus - if you are into it that heavy: you have to run counter surveilance on both police officers/judges and local thugs. keep your scanner up, have one of your boys down at the court house watching whos getting popped and whos getting off.

with that kind of money involved it's just good business.

 

[SmokyMtnToker]

Cops cannot legally enter property that is marked with signs forbidding entry...and all they can do legally is to walk on UNfenced property that is a CURTILAGE, or a way to normally enter the place. For example, a walkway that a mailman would use, or a guest, is Ok for a cop. They can walk around anywhere that is not an area that the owner would consider private. A backyard is an area where one normally expects privacy..the side of a house with No walkway is another...the cops can only snoop in areas that would commonly be seen as accessible for people in normal ways.

If cops stop people leaving a hydro shop, claiming, as above, that you didn't use a turn signal ( that was to justify the stop)..all you have to do is refuse any searches...allowing a search is stupid, even if you are clean. It is a chance to be planted...and we never give a cop anything...let them get it legally or not at all. NEVER give consent, ever.

Most cops bluff and lie and hassle but can do little else..use a car that is not registered to the grow adress and treat all cops like the vermin they are, and you will be OK.

 

[redandblack303]

Just don't be foolish about this, I'm pretty sure that 90% of the folks on this site have been growing for at least 5 years, some many more. This isn't our first rodeo, things have changed. The cops want to bust the illegal growers cause there is still money to be made.

 

[Possum]

Furthermore in a med state none of those things are proof of illegal activity and are baseless grounds for a warrent!

the smell of burnt cannabis is not proof of on-going criminal activity especially in a med. state. all of the cannabis could have been legal or burned away long ago leaving nothing illegal.

plus - i think that it's about time we tested the ability of humans to smell cannabis from outside a residence and not take for granted that one can.

i would like to put them to the test. we really out to organize to spend some time putting their powers and abilities on trial. much better them on trial than us.

 

[OjoRojo420]

Furthermore in a med state none of those things are proof of illegal activity and are baseless grounds for a warrent!

the smell of burnt cannabis is not proof of on-going criminal activity especially in a med. state. all of the cannabis could have been legal or burned away long ago leaving nothing illegal.

plus - i think that it's about time we tested the ability of humans to smell cannabis from outside a residence and not take for granted that one can.

i would like to put them to the test. we really out to organize to spend some time putting their powers and abilities on trial. much better them on trial than us.

Very good points!

 

[SOTF420]

I agree, the whole "I smelled cannabis" line is really getting old. Of course they can justify it once they actually find something after the fact with evidence in hand. Who trained them to detect the odor of cannabis? Of course with there being hundreds of different kinds of distinct odors from varying strains of cannabis who really can claim to detect them reliably in the first place? I have heard of police claiming to smell cannabis outside of grows where rooms were sealed off with carbon scrubbers going 24/7 and you surely could not smell anything at all, but yet this claim to having smelled cannabis grants them a search warrant based on what real qualifications smell wise?

I also wonder, could a police dog that is TRAINED to detect cannabis smell it outside of say an apt with a sealed grow with carbon scrubbers going? Would enough scent particles escape somehow for the dog to smell it, and even in that instance would it be grounds for a warrant?

 

[Lazyman]

seems like business was good, but why have that much loot around

No shit man, if I had that kind of dough I'd have less than a grand in the house, the rest would be deposited, stashed, or given to a trusted relative to hold or something. Someday I hope to have a very nice car, registered in a buddies name and living in his garage for me to "borrow" on occasion! lol

 

[Blue Dot]

Furthermore in a med state none of those things are proof of illegal activity and are baseless grounds for a warrent!

the smell of burnt cannabis is not proof of on-going criminal activity especially in a med. state. all of the cannabis could have been legal or burned away long ago leaving nothing illegal..

Wrong.

Just because a state has med laws does not mean that all cannabis found or "smelt" is presumed innocent (ie for medical use).

Cannabis is still illegal recreationally and all cannabis found or "smelt" can be considered guilty of that crime because in CA anyway the law is more of a defense in court after the fact then a presumptive defense.

 

[redandblack303]

Money

 

[Ash³]

They can track you easily on satellites and watch exactly where you go if they really want to. The technology is there and at their disposal whenever they need it. Much safer to order from a reputable online source to a safe address as your personal credit card information and the encrypted transactions, plain brown packages showing up, etc. are much harder to investigate than simply watching people buy stuff in person like sitting ducks. I know people safely buy stuff from private auction listings on ebay from several big sellers on there.

No need to induce any unnecessary fear mongering. That first sentence is absurd and completely false. Absurd absurd absurd absurd.

 

[Ash³]

If the cops get your name from running your plates they can get your electric info easily in some places, which can lead them to places other than your registered address, getting utilites info would be their next step in many cases, before doing a trash run or bringing the dog over to sniff.

yeah, not having your car registered to your grow address just adds a really thick layer of security to your trip.

If they were just staking out the grow store looking for easy leads, they aren't going to pursue it any further because they might end up doing lots of work for nothing.

 

[DrGreenThumb@OZ]

This is also happening in Australia but the police tell the owners of these hydro stores that if someone walks in with dreads or tattoo's and looks suspect & they are buying up large amounts of gear to pass on credit card info/vehicle license plates etc to the police for further investigation.This is bad for business as word of mouth spreads and people wont buy from stores so everyone loses,In Adelaide there is some law thats trying to be passed where any hydro store must ask for I.d. on any purchase and hand it over to the police.

The hydro store I go to sells cannabis growing magazines and books and the people at the counter are stoners because they told me so.I can trust them and they are very honest and helpful.I am lucky the store is only a 10min drive away so no long distance driving.

If your concerned about this then you need to talk to the person working at the store of your concerns and that you will be telling your friends to also go else where and I bet you that cop car wont be looking out anymore as its bad for business for the hydro store.

 

[Paco]

wow this is old news.
those guys had too high of a profile.
Plus, if none of you have been through a raid and court, all you are saying is postulation and hope.
Take it from me, the cops will lie steal and cheat to get a grower in jail. it doesn't matter what you think your rights are med state or not. that said,if you were medical the cops would have had to keep the plants alive or you could sue the PD for the tune of 2000$ a plant!
get your card!

 

[SOTF420]

No need to induce any unnecessary fear mongering. That first sentence is absurd and completely false. Absurd absurd absurd absurd.

Well since I can zoom in on your backyard with google earth what do you think the authorities can do? I guess ignorance is bliss.

 

[BeardedClam]

This is exactly why I smile when I hear about cop killings

This is exactly why I smile when I hear about cop killings

Same reason why i posted this on craigslist the day after the WA state shootings.

Company in WA state hiring 4 personal


Looking to fill 4 positions,

Street Patrol:

Provided cruiser, gets to shoot guns and harass common folk.

Must Be able to pass a drug test and be bullet proof.

 

[whodi]

some are profiled more of course due to their backgrounds/ criminal history.. which make it easier to get a warrant im sure.

also.. these days with everyone getting tattoos and all.. some are just asking to be profiled with how they dress and look. Cops are very judgmental we all know this.