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energy breakthrough?!?!

Rider420

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Of course they use fuel (hydrogen). It's not magic.

It's a more efficient and safer form of nuclear power that doesn't generate radioactive nuclear waste. Or indeed the carbon and other emissions of burning fossil fuels.

The "more energy in than out" is referring to consuming this fuel, not generating energy out of thin air.

It's a fantastic thing. But a proof of concept by physicists so far. Will be quite some time still before engineers manage to make it a commercially viable reality.
That's too funny windmills do generate power out of thin air.:LOL:
 

armedoldhippy

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The suns good for another 500 million years. By then only cockroaches will be around anyway
some biologists believe that rats and coyotes will be around too. i figure the 'yotes will eventually succumb to accumulative radiation poisoning or die out from gene damage/lack of reproductive success. much more complex and slower reproductive rate compared to the rats/roaches.
 

GMT

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A coal fire generates more energy out than in if you measure it the same way. The only issue there is the carbon emissions. The only issue with fusion is the materials you need to keep them going. And where you bury the radio active waste. Yes fusion reactors generate radioactive waste. It's not clean energy in that sense.
The sun uses hydrogen, but it has rather a lot stored, and a hell of a lot of gravity. Our earth bound version is not doing that. We can't do that. Sadly a lot of journalists are reporting on science that they haven't got a clue about, and are latching onto sound bites like "the energy of the stars" but it is just a way to sell more ad space for them.
 

goingrey

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A coal fire generates more energy out than in if you measure it the same way.
Yes, that is why coal power plants exist.

The only issue there is the carbon emissions.
And it's a big one. Also mining the coal has its problems.

The only issue with fusion is the materials you need to keep them going.
That is the challenge yeah.

And where you bury the radio active waste. Yes fusion reactors generate radioactive waste. It's not clean energy in that sense.
This is what the IAEA says about it:

Nuclear fission power plants have the disadvantage of generating unstable nuclei; some of these are radioactive for millions of years. Fusion on the other hand does not create any long-lived radioactive nuclear waste. A fusion reactor produces helium, which is an inert gas. It also produces and consumes tritium within the plant in a closed circuit. Tritium is radioactive (a beta emitter) but its half life is short. It is only used in low amounts so, unlike long-lived radioactive nuclei, it cannot produce any serious danger. The activation of the reactor’s structural material by intense neutron fluxes is another issue. This strongly depends on what solution for blanket and other structures has been adopted, and its reduction is an important challenge for future fusion experiments.
 

GMT

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That's complete bullshit. I'm sorry but they are not stating the truth. They are reporting on theoretical perfect fusion while advocating for something different. What was done was not fusing hydrogen into helium.
 

GMT

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@goingrey good if pr based video. They can't do it though. Without a thermal blanket, all those spare neutrons will destroy both man and machine in the area over time. Got to catch the neutrons man.
 

GMT

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A nagging thought is the similarity between this technique and the black holes that pop up at the Cern super collider. There they dissipate instantly, but here you would be feeding them matter and energy. If any did form here, they wouldn't dissipate so quickly.
 
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goingrey

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@goingrey good if pr based video. They can't do it though. Without a thermal blanket, all those spare neutrons will destroy both man and machine in the area over time. Got to catch the neutrons man.
If I understood correctly neutrons would only be generated during fuel production. And they will (maybe) separate that into a different machine to have it be more easily replaced. It is explained at 16:55.

Dunno how they plan to deal with the man-destruction. Well, the CEO said they're hiring... :D
 

GMT

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The problem is what to do with those radio active blankets. We just end up back at the same problems we have with fission. The manufacture and transport costs, ( imagine the insurance premium on transporting a tanker of H3.) And that's assuming the rest of the issues can be solved. These announcements are always for the funding boards rather than the scientific community.
 

RobFromTX

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Yeah i remember how much Newsom praised Elon before he got involved in politics. Savior for the next generation he said. Now hes telling people to stop charging their teslas so much 😜
 

Tynehead Tom

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LOL The world has more then enough renewable energy sources to power our societies with hydro, solar and wind. But the people who own oil, gas and nuclear stocks lie just like narcs lie about cannabis to protect thier own investments!
FYI all the power used to grow cannabis indoors in BC comes from renewable energy Hydro. That is why people in BC should buy electric cars rather then solar panels if they want to reduce green house emissions .
  • Moving water is the most important renewable energy source in Canada, providing 59.3 per cent of Canada’s electricity generation. In fact, Canada is the second largest producer of hydroelectricity in the world.
LOL buy an electric car...... it's -32C out right now and gonna be below 45C overnight the rest of the week. Electric cars are a joke and a fools path. They "expire" every 8 years and then need to be recycled because the batteries become unstable. The mining and refining of the materials for EV vehicles doesn't do any harm to the "climate" ?? Recycling the expired batteries does no harm to the "climate"?
Meanwhile "western nations" are buying dirty oil from scumbag dictator nations and submarining our own much cleaner and much more ethically produced fossil fuel products. Of course my true statements will be countered with the usual propaganda fueled nonsense but I don't care. EV's are not the answer to transportation in all areas and no one should be forced into them for the sake of climate change fanatics who think they can "stop climate change" by ending fossil fuel use LOL
Another volcano blew it's lid........ spewing more greenhouse gasses and other bad stuff into the upper atmosphere this past week...... once again, like all the other eruptions that go off like that, reducing man's attempts to alter the climate change cycle to negative impact. zilch, zeero , nadda. Your carbon taxes and green energy cult is doing nothing to interupt climate change it is just enriching the already uber wealthy and YOU are the boiled frog who never saw it coming.

EV's are for controlling the movement of citizens, which is against the constitution to begin with. EV will allow Government to strictly control who gets to travel and when. look at Switzerland and other nations currently restricting the movement and useage of vehicles.. UK just went full retard with controlling how people use thier vehicles..... EV's or not.

Personally I like the idea of a low altitude passenger drone that charges via solar when not in use.
Anyhow...... EV's might work in some places of the world in limitted fashion but for the every day citizen EV's are for suckers.

The latest technology in small reactor nuclear energy is incredible and should not be ignored by those seeking future energy needs. They are not the giant system they used to be and are incredibly safe and produce clean energy.
 
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