ecsd...

[Scrappy-doo]

Long story short, they are most likely siblings. According to Weasel who made the cross, he hit his mass super skunk with a male chem91 x nl and sold a half lb of seeded bud to the albany crew who popped the seeds. He said there were several keeper cuts floating around. He was given a cut (ecsd) and AJ got a different cut (AJ sour) along with underdog (Headband) which is chem91 x nl.

Here's an episode from Adam Dunn Show with AJ and Weasel.
https://livestream.com/adamdunnshow/events/4118178/videos/898453

Weasel comes on @ about 1:18

Still some people disagree but there it is straight from the mouth of the guy who made it. Take from it what you like.

 

[silverhazefiend]

This is #AJsourdiesel's actual Instagram pic...look it up.. (not mine) 7week flower . [URL=http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/keifer1122/IMG_25131.jpg]View Image[/URL]

my AJ sour d [URL=http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/keifer1122/Mobile%20Uploads/20160126_204601.jpg]View Image[/URL]

same plant trimmed [URL=http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/keifer1122/Mobile%20Uploads/20160210_211900-1.jpg]View Image[/URL]

Original Sour Diesel aka AJ Sour Diesel....Is this ECSD aswell?




If AJ was the originator/founder/finder/creator of the Original Sour Diesel then it looks to me that chaco got a bunk cut of sour diesel and its not the Original Sour Diesel. that's why I used the chaco moniker for clarification. and also I re-read what I read about the guy who had the ECSD cut and it turned out to be Original Diesel it was jah hoover over on another website and not chaco like I thought to clear things up.

if there the same plant How in the Hell can I get that Calyx to leaf ratio? If it is a different plant I would like to run it right next to each other and see whos king shit sour diesel.

U kno what messed this thread up chaco having to delete pics etc bc after reading the middle of this statement im offened for him

Follow closely
Prior to 2009 the ECSD clone was out there but held tightly bc huge profits where being made ..so instead of the clone being released and circulated rez just made various bxs and crosses with the sour this why u have the riri and alot of sour 2.5 and alpha diesel etc ..fast forward rez is gone

Chaco and rez have the SAME clone its only one ecsd and one Aj

Chaco sources the cut and post it online he also passed it to a few A+ growers on here ..he grows this cut for season's ..its all in this same thread! Makes a few crosses with it and passes the cut around ecsd

Jah hoover -sourced his cut from the DNA guys !nothing to do with chaco..jah told the story its on here also ..but he got the cut as aj sour d ..made some crosses and pass the cut to a few one being ojd and ojd made a few diesel crosses with it ..ojd also gets the ecsd cut a little while after that ..also makes a few crosses so u can see the difference visually ..a few guys here had both cuts and grew it sbs

If ecsd and aj sour is the same id be kinda hard pressed to belive that unless it was some kind of hermie and each one took more to the other parent but still mainted basic similar qualities like smell,stretch etc that i can believe

This topic is crazy bc 7 years later and a 400 page thread and people still ask the same question it trips me out bc i seen rez packs crash servers! For hit and miss sour disel seeds ..times have changed so much

 

[ojd]

I've grown out both cuts

Both are amazing

The ECSD Chaco cut if not dialled comes out like Hemp
By not dialed I mean taken early,not flushed,hot room etc etc

This cut grows more sativa than the original Diesel cut

I must say it's the Chaco cut I've seen all over the boards etc over the years not the original diesel cut
Rezdog used the ecsd not the original diesel

This Original Diesel cut DNA passed out was a more hoarded cut so not as many people grown/smoked it (back in around 2009 or before when we received it) most people new the Chaco cut that was just called ecsd

Both cuts are dank and beter than most strains around
If you got either cut congrats
Welcome to the Diesel world

Peace

 

[Bud_Man10]

^^^ Agreed! Some of the dankest shit I've ever smoked! Would give my buddy's right nut to have a cut of that!

Peace
BM

 

[Medium Pimpin']

I only run sour in the winter, she loves low temps.
She's also finicky and if not right, she's hay.
I have chacos ecsd and aj's sour. I think they're 2 diff plants, ecsd is more chemmy/funky to me than the Aj.
Dial your environment if you want super swollen calyxes

 

[HOVA]

Chaco smells like a sour tart diesel to me
Definitely some loud
I have a keeper s1 from dr greenthumb that out reeks the ecsd
And stays lime green through cure
The ecsd turns goldish brown
No complaints here though
Im running the riri cut this month and some tk x ecsd which is so loud in veg that that i might retire all the ecsd cuts i have. I mean they smell dead on to cat piss and sour funk with every stem rub
I have a bit lazy posting pics but im back to it so stay tuned

 

[silverhazefiend]

Good looks ojd on that quick clarification..i tossed ya name out there bc i knew u had solid info on both cuts i could vouch for

 

[Queef]

That weasel diesel was real informational and cleared things up.thanks for the link scrappy-doo you get a scooby snack.

 

[MAHA KALA]

This plant is probably the single hardest "elite" cut to grow well. You can grow it 10 times in the same room, and it can come out looking completely different every time. From yellow, to pink n purple to green.... It is VERY sensitive to environment.

If it's not grown well, it will have very little discernible sour terps. If it's not flowered to full maturity the high doesnt last for very long and is weak. These two things leads to many people not like ECSD.

100% I agree. every harvest a little bit different. sometimes more lemon, somtimes more fuely even flowering time can vary, sometimes its bulked and has full taste, good duration of effect at 72 days, sometime it needs over 80 days

 

[MAHA KALA]

 

[Stardog]

Honestly, you guys make me laugh, thanks for that!!

 

[DoubleTripleOG]

Honestly, you guys make me laugh, thanks for that!!
View Image

I love everything about that pic. Vertical bulb chilling-check, vertically hung T5 fixture-check(that's look like something I would do, lol). repurposing an Ace hardware bucket-check. Then the plants, lol. The one on the foreground, is that one of the EP x MM x something else plants?

 

[Queef]

U got hidden knowledge Stardog pls elaborate if you do.

 

[HOVA]

Yeah there was 2 pin holes right at the base of the plant that was letting in light of my led which is red
The Chaco is the only fucker that flipped out
I tossed her and made another cut to start the breeding all over
Got to love the game for its entirety right? Fuck it lol

 

[rasputin]

This is #AJsourdiesel's actual Instagram pic...look it up.. (not mine) 7week flower . View Image

my AJ sour d View Image

same plant trimmed View Image

Original Sour Diesel aka AJ Sour Diesel....Is this ECSD aswell?

Dude... seriously? You're going to come in this years old thread, muck shit up with your nonsense while questioning the legitimacy of other people's cuts while the cut you're growing looks like shit and isn't even comparable to the strain you're claiming it is?

I don't know if that's just nerve, or stupidity. Or a little of column A and column B.

Cause in this thread think I got this picture from page 8 is the ECSD that's being represented in this thread. View Image it doesn't look like the same plant to me.

As Melty pointed out, that photo you brought up is ECSD which is the exact same cut some people insist on referring to as the Chaco cut. If I recall correctly, the man himself has asked people not to do this and yet it persists. Not to mention, one might think that by adding that tag it eliminated any confusion as to its origin. Well, we see how well that is working, huh?

If AJ was the originator/founder/finder/creator of the Original Sour Diesel then it looks to me that chaco got a bunk cut of sour diesel and its not the Original Sour Diesel. that's why I used the chaco moniker for clarification. and also I re-read what I read about the guy who had the ECSD cut and it turned out to be Original Diesel it was jah hoover over on another website and not chaco like I thought to clear things up.

Says the guy with 60 posts and 1 year of membership... to the group of people that have been growing the ECSD cut for 8+ years.

Please, tell me more.

And if you really believe AJ and his bullshit story, you have bigger issues than whether your cut is real or not. Do some simple math... AJ gets to Colorado, starts growing legally and suddenly *poof* appears a new Sour Diesel clone that no one has seen or grown besides him for over a decade.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. Just like Legend OG, the people peddling the lies have reasons to do so. Stop believing the hype from your internet idols.

if there the same plant How in the Hell can I get that Calyx to leaf ratio? If it is a different plant I would like to run it right next to each other and see whos king shit sour diesel.

Ahh, so now we get to the crux of the matter. "How can that one be real when mine doesn't look anything like it!?"

re read what I posted I'm not talking about "Original Diesel" period... I'm talking about "Original Sour Diesel"...I know that there 2 differents strains.

So joebrand aka wonkanobe aka assholejoe aka AJ. Holds down the "Original sour diesel" aka "AJ sour diesel" aka "ECSD"...sooooo whats being represented in this thread is a fake cutting of ECSD. going by the pictures they look like different plants.

PEOPLE IM NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE "ORIGINAL DIESEL" that's a whole different strain..... AJ himself refers to THE REAL SOUR DIESEL as "ORIGINAL SOUR DIESEL

SO PLEASE TELL ME WHY DOES AJ THE GUY WHO HOLDS THE REAL DEAL "ORIGINAL SOUR DIESEL" ALL THE WAY FROM BACK IN THE DAY TRADING WITH CHEMDOG AND PBUD WHY DOESNT HIS "ORIGINAL SOUR DIESEL" AKA "ECSD" LOOK LIKE WHATS BEING REPRESENTED IN THIS THREAD "CHACOS ECSD" WHERE DID CHACO GET THIS CUT? anyone know?

You have your internet characters mixed up again. You are so obviously mistaken, confused and just wrong that I question why I even bothered to respond to you. Your use of ALL CAPS is particularly telling.

Hmm thats weird the guy who had it for 20+ years grows it n looks just like mine all poopy wonder why he would post up picks of poopy grows on his IG account for the world to see

Poop show. Bro throw up a picture of your Sour D let's compare. 1,148 posts and no pictures troll. Your a joke. Prove your better than me. Your a shit show.

Maybe the plant does have a lot of varience more than any other strain out there. Its crazy weird actually to see how much variance it has looking at the pictures I posted up. Like I said how the hell do you get it to grow all calyxy like that. It looks like a different beast like no hairs either. I mean my pictures aside aj's pics n postman pics look like night and day

More bullshit. Your buddy who claims he has been growing ECSD for 20+ years lied to you. And you believed it. That cancels out pretty much everything else you said in my book.

U got hidden knowledge Stardog pls elaborate if you do.

Here's the hidden knowledge... ECSD originated from a group of lesbian bikers. If you didn't get the cut from them directly, you probably have a S1 or Dutch hybrid.

That's the truth, Ruth.

 

[rasputin]

the ECSD moniker came around much later

IIRC, Rez added 'East Coast' to Sour Diesel approx. in 2008, maybe 2007, so that the West Coast couldn't claim credit for the cut. That was his explanation, at least.

At the time he was starting to release Sour Diesel seeds so that might have also been his way to differentiate the cut from the seeds. It hasn't worked very well, as evidenced by this thread, among others.

Here is the first post of Sour Diesel on ICmag - notice no mention of 'East Coast' and for our buddy pussyfart, visually similar to the 'Chaco' cut as well as other plants posted in this thread as ECSD. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=6115

 

[shishkaboy]

That plant looks exactly like my coffee cut. I really wanna to try a verified ecsd sample.

 

[Queef]

Mr postman cut looks nothin like the link u threw up rasputin... look like 2 different plants again. Looks like more my cut in the link....my pics at 62days my calyxs swell up too.. look at the trim pic if I would of let it go another 2 weeks it swells more not like postman though.and my cut looks like Aj's. That link you posted looks more like Aj's cut aswell. So maybe your chaco cut is from a couple lesbians period. And like weasel said there could be thousands of sours i would rather have the cut from the dude that was around at the time doin the deals and trading then a couple lesbian story cut. Like I said if your cut don't look like Aj's the guy that was actually there then your running a bunk cut that's different from the guy that was actually there at the time and you will never know what you have. But he does know..does that make sense it could be sour out the same bag of seeds but not the guys who was there to confirm it.Don't get mad bro pictures speak a thousand words. Why would a guy not question by looking at Aj's pics and what's posted up here. Please let's hear the lesbian story

 

[Wendull C.]

This is #AJsourdiesel's actual Instagram pic...look it up.. (not mine) 7week flower . [URL=http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/keifer1122/IMG_25131.jpg]View Image[/URL]

my AJ sour d [URL=http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/keifer1122/Mobile%20Uploads/20160126_204601.jpg]View Image[/URL]

same plant trimmed [URL=http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/keifer1122/Mobile%20Uploads/20160210_211900-1.jpg]View Image[/URL]

Original Sour Diesel aka AJ Sour Diesel....Is this ECSD aswell?

Cause in this thread think I got this picture from page 8 is the ECSD that's being represented in this thread. [URL=http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/keifer1122/picture.jpg]View Image[/URL] it doesn't look like the same plant to me.


If AJ was the originator/founder/finder/creator of the Original Sour Diesel then it looks to me that chaco got a bunk cut of sour diesel and its not the Original Sour Diesel. that's why I used the chaco moniker for clarification. and also I re-read what I read about the guy who had the ECSD cut and it turned out to be Original Diesel it was jah hoover over on another website and not chaco like I thought to clear things up.

if there the same plant How in the Hell can I get that Calyx to leaf ratio? If it is a different plant I would like to run it right next to each other and see whos king shit sour diesel.

What day did you take that plant to in flower? It looks like maybe 65? If you want to compare it to the pic below from chaco you need to let it mature as long. I can tell you I have a real cut and won't take it until 85 days.

When I first got it I cut some nugs off to burn at day 67 and had hay to smoke with white hairs. A waste. Same plant at 85 days dries to buds with a slight red tint that look just like the chaco pictures with smoke better than any og kush. I love og have grown it for decades but sour diesel is the best pot I ever smoked.

 

[Scrappy-doo]

Mr postman cut looks nothin like the link u threw up rasputin... look like 2 different plants again. Looks like more my cut in the link....my pics at 62days my calyxs swell up too.. look at the trim pic if I would of let it go another 2 weeks it swells more not like postman though.and my cut looks like Aj's. That link you posted looks more like Aj's cut aswell. So maybe your chaco cut is from a couple lesbians period. And like weasel said there could be thousands of sours i would rather have the cut from the dude that was around at the time doin the deals and trading then a couple lesbian story cut. Like I said if your cut don't look like Aj's the guy that was actually there then your running a bunk cut that's different from the guy that was actually there at the time and you will never know what you have. But he does know..does that make sense it could be sour out the same bag of seeds but not the guys who was there to confirm it.Don't get mad bro pictures speak a thousand words. Why would a guy not question by looking at Aj's pics and what's posted up here. Please let's hear the lesbian story

The pics in the link from rasputin are rezdog's pics. You can see his watermark. Rez had the ecsd cut, same as postman, same as chaco. This has all been verified ad nauseum. Anyone who was around at the time knows this as undisputable fact. There is only one ecsd and you can see it over and over in this thread.