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I supposedly have a real ECSD cut (the AJ cut I was told) and it will throw balls down low on occasion. I've tried multiple times to make crosses with the pollen but nothing has taken. After many attempts, it's my experience that the pollen is sterile.
IMO, I don't quite understand the hype behind ECSD (unless the 'AJ cut' isn't the real deal). She's a nice grower's plant but there is so much good herb out there that not a single one of these hyped cuts ever smokes noticeably better than any of the other all stars we've kept over the years.
shishkaboy
>>>>Beanie Man<<<<
You can so see the chem in ecsd and pretty much any chem hybrid.
That bottom pic looks alot like the 91 with lighter, less shiny leaves.
Does it start to get any purple in the leaves toward the end?
That bottom pic looks alot like the 91 with lighter, less shiny leaves.
Does it start to get any purple in the leaves toward the end?
~star~crash~
Active member
i had it,but lost it to the cops back in '08...i got a line on the identical cut
This is #AJsourdiesel's actual Instagram pic...look it up.. (not mine) 7week flower .
my AJ sour d
same plant trimmed
Original Sour Diesel aka AJ Sour Diesel....Is this ECSD aswell?
Cause in this thread think I got this picture from page 8 is the ECSD that's being represented in this thread.
it doesn't look like the same plant to me.
If AJ was the originator/founder/finder/creator of the Original Sour Diesel then it looks to me that chaco got a bunk cut of sour diesel and its not the Original Sour Diesel. that's why I used the chaco moniker for clarification. and also I re-read what I read about the guy who had the ECSD cut and it turned out to be Original Diesel it was jah hoover over on another website and not chaco like I thought to clear things up.
if there the same plant How in the Hell can I get that Calyx to leaf ratio? If it is a different plant I would like to run it right next to each other and see whos king shit sour diesel.
my AJ sour d
same plant trimmed
Original Sour Diesel aka AJ Sour Diesel....Is this ECSD aswell?
Cause in this thread think I got this picture from page 8 is the ECSD that's being represented in this thread.
it doesn't look like the same plant to me.If AJ was the originator/founder/finder/creator of the Original Sour Diesel then it looks to me that chaco got a bunk cut of sour diesel and its not the Original Sour Diesel. that's why I used the chaco moniker for clarification. and also I re-read what I read about the guy who had the ECSD cut and it turned out to be Original Diesel it was jah hoover over on another website and not chaco like I thought to clear things up.
if there the same plant How in the Hell can I get that Calyx to leaf ratio? If it is a different plant I would like to run it right next to each other and see whos king shit sour diesel.
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...and the seed bracts on my 'AJ cut' aren't nearly as fat as some of the photos I've seen (one pictured above). And this cut can yield too. Some cuts like the one pictured above don't look like they're good producers which makes me wonder about the variation of the 'real deal' cuts out there.
the origins of sour diesel are likely paralleled with OG Kush in the sense that there is an original cut and some variants, and a shit ton of s1's, s2's, bagseeds, ect. that go around.
then add to the confusion that original diesel has 9 million names, and that Chem91 was originally called "Diesel" on the east coast. it's a mess imo.
this is my understanding at least
ECSD - lemon citrus floor cleaner fuely with some sweaty locker funk,. way more astringent than original diesel. knobby blown out calyx appearance
Headband/Daywrecker/Original Diesel - patchouli sweaty locker room floor cleaner fuel skunk no lemon or citrus.
maybe im just a weirdo but ive always thought she looked like a cousin or relative of chem#3 somehow. especially from (i think it was) Nspecta's Chem3 pictures.
AJ - haven't had the pleasure, and if i did i didn't know i was smoking it
then add to the confusion that original diesel has 9 million names, and that Chem91 was originally called "Diesel" on the east coast. it's a mess imo.
this is my understanding at least
ECSD - lemon citrus floor cleaner fuely with some sweaty locker funk,. way more astringent than original diesel. knobby blown out calyx appearance
Headband/Daywrecker/Original Diesel - patchouli sweaty locker room floor cleaner fuel skunk no lemon or citrus.
maybe im just a weirdo but ive always thought she looked like a cousin or relative of chem#3 somehow. especially from (i think it was) Nspecta's Chem3 pictures.
AJ - haven't had the pleasure, and if i did i didn't know i was smoking it
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=198521
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=60048&highlight=chemdawg+101
too lazy to click link?
91chem x (massachussets superskunk x NL) = Original Diesel (notice no sour) = Daywrecker = Headband = Underdawg
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Original Diesel(91Chem x MassSuperSkunk x NL) x DNL= Sour Diesel = AJ Sour D = ECSD = sour.[/FONT]
the above have proven to be 2 different strains.
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SoiledMyself
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ECSD lives up to hype in my humble opinion, Daywrecker is skunky as hell as opposed to that chemmy/fuel and I have heard some weird things about the AJ sour d cut and have seen a few examples that are not nearly as good as what I know to be Sour Diesel,Chem 91 nugs are not as modern looking as the Daywrecker and Sour Diesel but taste less watered down and like pure fuel, Sour Diesel taken 75 days light green fruitier tasting strong 30 min high , 85 days knockout real fuel and skunk come out packs on weight in these extra 10 days much longer buzz period, ECSD easy to grow in organic soil imo , always headstash weed in my garden in the past I have ran many other cuts and seeds next to her she still has 5 star taste , 5 star aroma, and 5 star high when done right, done wrong she can look like a completely different plant. Me 2 cents
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=198521
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=60048&highlight=chemdawg+101
too lazy to click link?
91chem x (massachussets superskunk x NL) = Original Diesel (notice no sour) = Daywrecker = Headband = Underdawg
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Original Diesel(91Chem x MassSuperSkunk x NL) x DNL= Sour Diesel = AJ Sour D = ECSD = sour.[/FONT]
the above have proven to be 2 different strains.
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re read what I posted I'm not talking about "Original Diesel" period... I'm talking about "Original Sour Diesel"...I know that there 2 differents strains.
So joebrand aka wonkanobe aka assholejoe aka AJ. Holds down the "Original sour diesel" aka "AJ sour diesel" aka "ECSD"...sooooo whats being represented in this thread is a fake cutting of ECSD. going by the pictures they look like different plants.
PEOPLE IM NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE "ORIGINAL DIESEL" that's a whole different strain..... AJ himself refers to THE REAL SOUR DIESEL as "ORIGINAL SOUR DIESEL
SO PLEASE TELL ME WHY DOES AJ THE GUY WHO HOLDS THE REAL DEAL "ORIGINAL SOUR DIESEL" ALL THE WAY FROM BACK IN THE DAY TRADING WITH CHEMDOG AND PBUD WHY DOESNT HIS "ORIGINAL SOUR DIESEL" AKA "ECSD" LOOK LIKE WHATS BEING REPRESENTED IN THIS THREAD "CHACOS ECSD" WHERE DID CHACO GET THIS CUT? anyone know?
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FireIn.TheSky
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I'd rather have the "chaco" cut that other shit looks like a bad pheno of the sour diesel ibl.
My guess is you don't grow it right.
I've chatted a bit with sour diesel masters and they all say temp, humidity and ph make it or break it.
That second pic I believe is whodairs, that dude knows how to grow ecsd.
Also make sure you are not confusing orignal diesel and ecsd.
Ecsd is originally from Mass.
I know it's a long thread, but all these questions have been asked and answered over and over again many times. Chaco's cut is the real deal ecsd, verified numerous times by the people who would know. If you have doubts just read the thread, but you're gonna be disappointed to find your theory has already been debunked. You're far from the first person to point out the differences between those two cuts.
FireIn.TheSky
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That pic you are comparing to is Mr.Postman's, from his first run with her. He is a great gardener and that is real SourD.
This plant is probably the single hardest "elite" cut to grow well. You can grow it 10 times in the same room, and it can come out looking completely different every time. From yellow, to pink n purple to green.... It is VERY sensitive to environment.
If it's not grown well, it will have very little discernible sour terps. If it's not flowered to full maturity the high doesnt last for very long and is weak. These two things leads to many people not like ECSD.
The first time I flowered out this cut almost 7 years ago, I had to chop it at 4 weeks because it turned into a complete hermi, if I didnt know what I had, I would have thrown away the cut right then n there.
Any sort of light leak will cause this plant to turn, even a red light from a power strip that you put black tape over, but when left to sit in a completely dark room for 10+ minutes, you can suddenly see a red glow coming thru the plastic, around the border of the tape.
If it's not grown well, it will have very little discernible sour terps. If it's not flowered to full maturity the high doesnt last for very long and is weak. These two things leads to many people not like ECSD.
The first time I flowered out this cut almost 7 years ago, I had to chop it at 4 weeks because it turned into a complete hermi, if I didnt know what I had, I would have thrown away the cut right then n there.
Any sort of light leak will cause this plant to turn, even a red light from a power strip that you put black tape over, but when left to sit in a completely dark room for 10+ minutes, you can suddenly see a red glow coming thru the plastic, around the border of the tape.
Hmm thats weird the guy who had it for 20+ years grows it n looks just like mine all poopy wonder why he would post up picks of poopy grows on his IG account for the world to see
Poop show. Bro throw up a picture of your Sour D let's compare. 1,148 posts and no pictures troll. Your a joke. Prove your better than me. Your a shit show.
Maybe the plant does have a lot of varience more than any other strain out there. Its crazy weird actually to see how much variance it has looking at the pictures I posted up. Like I said how the hell do you get it to grow all calyxy like that. It looks like a different beast like no hairs either. I mean my pictures aside aj's pics n postman pics look like night and day
Poop show. Bro throw up a picture of your Sour D let's compare. 1,148 posts and no pictures troll. Your a joke. Prove your better than me. Your a shit show.
Maybe the plant does have a lot of varience more than any other strain out there. Its crazy weird actually to see how much variance it has looking at the pictures I posted up. Like I said how the hell do you get it to grow all calyxy like that. It looks like a different beast like no hairs either. I mean my pictures aside aj's pics n postman pics look like night and day
shishkaboy
>>>>Beanie Man<<<<
Cant someone just fem a dnl and hit an Od, I bet folks would find some Ill dank.
FireIn.TheSky
Active member
Lol I lost most of my pics a while ago. There's pics of my stuff in my albums, feel free to look but I'm not going to turn this thread into a dick measuring contest with someone that is clearly inept.
Queef, lmao that sounds about right, when you post all I hear is queefing.
