Distinguished and Nurtured Kind

[genetic freaked]

I’ve been waiting to see that Suzy Q. She’s beautiful!

Damn Colbalt #2 got some frost on her. Looking forward to the smoke report. I bet you cant wait

 

[TheBlaze]

You've got some baseball bats in the making there.

 

[Critter]

Looking danktastic Frank!!

 

[dank.frank]

@genetic freaked - Yep. #2 will get pollinated by the Snow Monkey male next round. Can't hurt to take the more sativa pheno and hit her with some faster pollen, which I know comes from dank stock.

And you're right. I can't WAIT to smoke my own flowers again. It's been way too long. Not that I haven't had some great flowers shared with me over the last few years. It's just never the same spiritual experience as smoking your own. I'll likely cheat and trim a lower off every plant at 49 days and let them dry properly. That'll at least give me something to puff on when it's time to trim.

It'll also let me get some test numbers for the hemp. I personally refuse to grow plants that have to be harvested early to remain compliant. That undermines the entire value of the plant. I'm not some cheap CBD whore just looking to sling isolate. I want the best flowers, period. No exceptions. That means fully mature cannabinoids and terpenes.

@TheBlaze - certainly some nice colas. The Suzy Q has almost 2 liter bottle sized colas. Super fat - but not the densest - which is GOOD. Any flower that fat would rot from the inside out otherwise. Has that thin stemmed, foxtailed and clustered calyxes, more like a sativa in that regard.

@Critter - Thanks, F.A.M. - It'll be nice to have some full jars again, even if it is mids.



dank.Frank

 

[dank.frank]

nom nom nom

Edibles have kept me sane. I honestly can't thank the individual enough for the trim. It was given in November of 2017 and I'm just running the last of it in the Spring of 2019. Where ever you are, bro -



dank.Frank

 

[moses wellfleet]

That looks like the cratered surface of a faraway planet, I would like to visit!

 

[nickman]

Their looking really dank frank...!!!...

That’s crazy, the trim lasted that long. I need to start making bubble hash with my trim again... I actually have one of those glass things that u put the trim into and spray the butane into the little hole at the one side ...I’ve had it for about four years now and still have never tried to make that shit yet... SOON

But yeah, looks like you have some big ass buds there...

I feel that the plants can express themselves to their fullest when they have a lot of soil to spread their legs out...!!!... I’m talking at least 15 gallons of soil per plant...

I’m done growing in smaller pots (3-5gallons)...

Hey frank, I’m gonna post up some pics of one of my Night Riders... shit looks dank as .uck...!!!... pics are a weeks or so over due...

 

[dank.frank]

It was a LOT of trim. Couple 5 gallon buckets full. Not the best quality, but I've been running a qp per 2 sticks of butter and it's certainly effective. The few people I have shared anything with have come back with a bewildered look in their eyes asking, what the hell was in that, Frank!!! Guess I've put some people into a tailspin. I don't even consider my tolerance to be very high at all currently.

I agree with larger roots providing a more true expression of the phenotype. I first noticed this when stepping up from 3 gallons to 5 gallons and then back down to 3. Then, when running 1/2 gallon SOG plants, I became fully convinced of the difference. It's subtle, in much the same way that outdoor flowers seem to have a fuller effect than indoor flowers.

I honestly think 5 gallons is enough to get that end result. Below that though, and I agree. There are certainly nuanced differences.

I have no idea how much weight is on the Suzy Q Bx2 shrub. Without ever having grown under CMH, I just can't make an accurate estimate. I honestly would be surprised if it's over 8oz. I'm thinking it's more in the 6-7oz range, but I could be wrong.

I'm sort of figuring I'll have about 3-4oz on each of the Cobalts. Hard to tell.



dank.Frank

 

[dank.frank]

ABF Seeds - Cobalt Haze - #1 @49 days

Med Tree Seeds - Suzy Q Bx2 @49ays

dank.Frank

 

[genetic freaked]

I think it’s time you take a small piece off the #1 and #2 for a sample smoke.
Really interested in the high of these Cobolts

 

[dank.frank]

I actually took samples from the lowers off all plants at lights on today. They are hanging to dry. I'll let you know for sure. The #1 is finishing up now. Her leaves are starting to show a hint of fade. She'll certainly be done in 2wks. I'll be trimming on 4/20. How ironically appropriate.



dank.Frank

 

[Guest]

ABF Seeds - Cobalt Haze - #1 @49 days

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dank.Frank

Lucky man

It was a LOT of trim. Couple 5 gallon buckets full. Not the best quality, but I've been running a qp per 2 sticks of butter and it's certainly effective. The few people I have shared anything with have come back with a bewildered look in their eyes asking, what the hell was in that, Frank!!! Guess I've put some people into a tailspin. I don't even consider my tolerance to be very high at all currently.

I agree with larger roots providing a more true expression of the phenotype. I first noticed this when stepping up from 3 gallons to 5 gallons and then back down to 3. Then, when running 1/2 gallon SOG plants, I became fully convinced of the difference. It's subtle, in much the same way that outdoor flowers seem to have a fuller effect than indoor flowers.

I honestly think 5 gallons is enough to get that end result. Below that though, and I agree. There are certainly nuanced differences.

I have no idea how much weight is on the Suzy Q Bx2 shrub. Without ever having grown under CMH, I just can't make an accurate estimate. I honestly would be surprised if it's over 8oz. I'm thinking it's more in the 6-7oz range, but I could be wrong.

I'm sort of figuring I'll have about 3-4oz on each of the Cobalts. Hard to tell.



dank.Frank

So would that be rootbound in those sized containers, Frank? Do you notice rootbound plants bear tighter or better colas?
The application of these principals is difficult to grasp, considering growing in the ground root space is unlimited, then there's NFT systems, indoor beds, different substrates etc and so on. For me in coco its a fine balance, as its said you can't overwater, but you can definitely waterlog, and if your environment is not on point you will get poor growth. If you flip too early without sufficient rootzone you will get poor growth and never recover as the lant gives up on roots and instead starts flowering. Big strong plants in coco with a good veg and big rootzone, but the roots will absolutely strangle your coco out and your watering must be on point as the balance in your rootzone becomes much more critical.
But you grow in living soil and dont even need to worry about that.

 

[dank.frank]

I've seen this being discussed recently - the roots and the density of colas, etc.

I don't know. I've never had a plant that wasn't all roots in the entire container. You'd think, with the soil bed, you'd come to that discovery, but, I saw root tips coming out the underside of the bed, through the landscape fabric and air pruning, just like you'd expect to see in a smart pot.

What you are saying makes sense, but you'd have to ask more people to get a consensus. I'm probably more of the opinion that density of flowers is more impacted by environment surrounding the foliage than roots. Air temperature. Lighting intensity. But as soon as I make that statement I think about how too much nitrogen can make plants in flower tail out and loosen up.

It's a valid consideration. I'm not in the best position to test out a hypothesis yet, but, when I flower out a SOG style mono-crop round, I'd expect those root to NOT fill the bed in the same way larger plants do.

It seems like I've heard Tonatiuh mention this in his mega thread though. Miss him posting.



dank.Frank

 

[Guest]

It's a valid consideration. I'm not in the best position to test out a hypothesis yet, but, when I flower out a SOG style mono-crop round, I'd expect those root to NOT fill be bed in the same way larger plants do.

It seems like I've heard Tonatiuh mention this in his mega thread though. Miss him posting.



dank.Frank

 

[dank.frank]

Cobalt Haze #2 @51 days. Still can not seem to take a 1/2 way decent picture of this plant. She's definitely sticking around for another run. In a dialed room, she'll be down right gnarly.

I've been looking through Abja's albums and this #2 without question favors the father side of the equation - the Mendo Breath UV x Wet Dream male. The coloration forming in the calyxes is exactly the same. However, you wouldn't know that because I can't seem to take a picture that actually shows the color through the blanket of resin.

dank.Frank

 

[trichrider]

the beauty is in the beholding.
but blame it on the camera. lol

 

[dank.frank]

@trichrider - I mean, sure. They could absolutely look better. If part of the plant wasn't seeded. If temps weren't an average of 4-8 degrees too high on any given day. If I'd figure out exactly when to water instead of things getting too dry over nights. If the lights were on a timer instead of being manually operated, which leaves a few minutes to 15 minutes of difference at times. If there was more airflow in general. If I was using RO water instead of tap water that smells like a swimming pool.

I'm still pretty pleased though, considering it's my first run in over 5 years.

They will get better. Everything grown in this room will only improve with time and I shake off the rust and learn the nuances of controlling this environment.

But MOSTLY - it is this stupid 3.5mp camera. I'll have to borrow a camera and prove my point. LOL



dank.Frank

 

[Guest]

You just described my garden minus the seeds.
I'm glad you are pleased because you deserve to be. Onwards and upwards bruh.

 

[dank.frank]

I honestly appreciate criticism, and I'm fully aware, trichrider wasn't being any way about it. I can take a playful jab and grin about it. My comment was to acknowledge that he was in fact, correct.

Part of the purpose of keeping a public thread is to teach but also to learn. I'm NOT the best grower in the world but I do an alright job. Sometimes better than others. Sometimes not so much. There is a learning curve that comes with each new experience.

I used to freak out and panic at the slightest imperfection thinking the crop was ruined, and in SOME ways, there is a point noticeable impact, for every single error made, regardless how slight. You don't know that to be true until you have a near perfect run and then you REALLY see the difference.

I may defend my position because I know the fullest details, but I like when someone can say, Frank - it could be better. That's an opportunity to grow and start going back over the check list of parameters.

Only person that's seen these flowers growing in person called them mids. While I know that isn't the case, I know that just meant they could be better. They won't be the AAA+++ that I'm capable of - that the genetics are capable of. I wasn't offended. I took it to heart. I accept that challenge. Game on, F.A.M.

However, if you aren't a grower, you'd never know that and they'll still be some of the best flowers most commoners will ever see in their lifetime.

I honestly, don't want a thread where I get 20 people passing through to pat me on the back once a week to make me feel good about myself. I'm trying to IMPROVE. That takes constructive criticism and it takes not being an ego driven bitch boy when you get it.

I do my level best to keep it real.



dank.Frank

 

[Guest]

People support you because you have values and passion and knowledge. Your garden is just icing