Dark Mission: NASA's dirty little secret.

[Pops]

If anyone is curious, there are still 5 lunar descent modules on the surface of the moon, LM-6,LM-8,LM-10, LM-11 and LM-12.

 

[Guest]

Yup, 5 landing modules, a rover, and a flag we can't see.

Hey Pops...run this by your son. How did the LEM produce a flame when it left the moon's surface?? Ouch...that burns.

 

[Pops]

Actually,the ascent module did not produce a flame. The fuels used for the ascent module(hydrazine and dinitrogen tetroxide) do not produce a flame. That is one of the things that most whackos bitch about, that there was no flame.

You are bitching about the flag? Let's say that you have a 100,000x telescope. that would allow you to see the surface of the moon from a couple miles up. Are your eyes good enough to see a small flag from 2 miles away? Since the moon is 230,000 miles away, you aren't going to be able to walk out your back door and look up and see a flag waving in the non-existent breeze.

I would ask my son, but he is 2,000 miles away and it is close to midnight there.

 

[genkisan]

Yup, 5 landing modules, a rover, and a flag we can't see.

Hey Pops...run this by your son. How did the LEM produce a flame when it left the moon's surface?? Ouch...that burns.

Because like most rocket engines, it used both a fuel and an oxidizer.......any moderately well read 8th grader could tell you that. "Rocket" does not always equal 'flame' in the classic sense that you are referring to.....
thats only in cartoons.

With every comment and 'proof' with which you try and sound clever, you demonstrate yer total lack of any kind of knowledge base beyond what Eric Horseshit has to say about reality....and he is obviously not very well informed.

But nothing anyone can post will change people like you in any way...not by one millimeter......so dream yer paranoid little dreams, and play with yer knob late at night thinkin' about how you and Senor Eric Horseshit are fighting the good fight, spreading the "truth" about the evil Zionist puppet-masters, who have been responsible for everything from Hitler to Area 51, and own the Queen of England (among other things).

 

[Pops]

I hear you knocking,Genki, but I don't think anyone is home. Look for a sigh on the brain that says "Out to Lunch"!

 

[PhenoMenal]

It's like talking to a brick wall, only with less intelligence.

 

[TNTBudSticker]

Buzz Aldrin punches guy in the face cuz he didnt think he landed on the moon!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQKxAqpjroo

 

[Backdoor man]

Genkisan, pops.....

I realise that your both having a dig at S2D but i dont like the fact that again you pick out something very real, this time its "Zionism" and then dump it in here with the not so real.
This tactic was adopted by Zionists ages ago, im not saying you are both working to an agenda but it is something ive seen many times before.

Now if either of you want to start a thread in which we will discuss the history of Zionism and learn what is really fact and fiction with regards to that particular subject, then i am more than willing to engage and enlighten you both to the fact that Zionism and its adherents goal of world domination is very real....Be warned though, you will not see me giving you links to Nazi websites and other extremist fringe idiots....I will use the words of the zionists themselves....let me give you an example of what i mean.....

...."In Jerusalem, the United Nations (a trully united nations) will build a shrine of the prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the seat of the supreme court of mankind."

Now that was Ben-Gurion, famous zionist leader and Prime iminister of Israel quoted from an interview in "Look" magazine 1962, and making it very clear that the ultimate goal for the political zionist is a one world government, a New world order.
Now just how do you get to discrediting me as another Neo-nazi nutter, when all im guilty of is quoting the chilling words of the zionists themselves?
And theres plenty more where that came from!

Now lets just leave the real world and get back to the moon castles and wanking monkeys shall we....

 

[Pops]

Backdoor man, if you re-read my posts,you will never see any mention of Zionism. I am not Jewish, nor am I anti-semitic. I have only spoken of scientific fact and nothing of Zionism.

 

[Nubie Biatch]

Wow...these nuts always bring it back to their pet agendas. A bunch of whack jobs scared of a "One World Government". I was waiting for S2D or BD Man to get back to their anti-Zionist rants.

 

[Backdoor man]

Wow...these nuts always bring it back to their pet agendas. A bunch of whack jobs scared of a "One World Government". I was waiting for S2D or BD Man to get back to their anti-Zionist rants.

Yes i know you where, your agenda is very obvious.

Pops, my apologies.

 

[Guest]

There's that word again..the A word haha.Since agenda specifically implies implementation of a plan I'd like to know what everyones is?And why do you think a stoner forum is a good place to implement this plan?I don't know how many times I've been told I have an agenda.It's laughable when you think about it,and just a tad loopy?Maybe having an agenda or ideological "plan" on this forum somehow increases self-importance?I'm here to say I have no plan ideological or otherwise to take over Icmag..

 

[trouble]

There's that word again..the A word haha.Since agenda specifically implies implementation of a plan I'd like to know what everyones is?And why do you think a stoner forum is a good place to implement this plan?I don't know how many times I've been told I have an agenda.It's laughable when you think about it,and just a tad loopy?Maybe having an agenda or ideological "plan" on this forum somehow increases self-importance?I'm here to say I have no plan ideological or otherwise to take over Icmag..

The only agenda you have is the Communist Blockhead agenda.


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[Backdoor man]

There's that word again..the A word haha.Since agenda specifically implies implementation of a plan I'd like to know what everyones is?And why do you think a stoner forum is a good place to implement this plan?I don't know how many times I've been told I have an agenda.It's laughable when you think about it,and just a tad loopy?Maybe having an agenda or ideological "plan" on this forum somehow increases self-importance?I'm here to say I have no plan ideological or otherwise to take over Icmag..

I dont think you have an actual agenda, in my opinion you are one of those that would sing the theme tune to team America with much gusto and no irony.
Nubie Biatch on the other hand is obviously a person of jewish descent uncomfortable allowing goys like me to go around letting the cat out of the bag.

 

[Guest]

"And the caissons go rolling along.."Something tells me if you saw my flowerroom in full production your opinion of the automatic American blindly following conformity and the status quo would fly out the window!I don't believe in this huge zionist conspiracy so that makes me what?It makes me nothing but a person that doesnt believe in a huge zionist conspiracy.

 

[Pops]

Damn,how did we go from little green men building glass houses on the moon, to Americans faking a moon landing and now to Zionism. Does anyone see a natural progression here? does anyone see any intelligence in this whole thread? I am going to have to get myself a scorecard so I can keep track of which conspiracy we are discussing.

 

[strain_searcher]

So anyone going to get the book, Dark Mission?


Beez

 

[Guest]

I guess the module leaving the moon was a cartoon then because it made a hell of a flame taking off.

1) Sceptics argue that the lack of stars on Moon photographs is acceptable, despite zero atmosphere to obscure the view. Yuri Gagarin, pronounced the stars to be "astonishingly brilliant". See the official NASA pictures above that I have reproduced that show 'stars' in the sky, as viewed from the lunar surface. And why exactly do you think there are hardly any stars visible on Apollo films taken from the Moon? The answers simple - Professional astronomers would quickly calculate that the configuration and distances of star formations were incorrect and so NASA had to remove them to make sure they could keep up the scam.

2) The pure oxygen atmosphere in the module would have melted the Hasselblad's camera covering and produced poisonous gases. Why weren't the astronauts affected?

3) There should have been a substantial crater blasted out under the LM's 10,000 pound thrust rocket. Sceptics would have you believe that the engines only had the power to blow the dust from underneath the LM as it landed. If this is true, how did Armstrong create that famous boot print if all the dust had been blown away?

4) Sceptics claim that you cannot produce a flame in a vacuum because of the lack of oxygen. So how come I have footage on this page showing a flame coming from the exhaust of an Apollo lander? (Obviously the sceptics are wrong or the footage shows the lander working in an atmosphere)

5) Footprints are the result of weight displacing air or moisture from between particles of dirt, dust, or sand. The astronauts left distinct footprints all over the place.

6) The Apollo 11 TV pictures were lousy, yet the broadcast quality magically became fine on the five subsequent missions.

7) Why in most Apollo photos, is there a clear line of definition between the rough foreground and the smooth background?

8) Why did so many NASA Moonscape photos have non parallel shadows? sceptics will tell you because there is two sources of light on the Moon - the Sun and the Earth... That maybe the case, but the shadows would still fall in the same direction, not two or three different angles and Earth shine would have no effect during the bright lunar day (the time at which the Apollo was on the Moon).

9) Why did one of the stage prop rocks have a capital "C" on it and a 'C' on the ground in front of it?

10) How did the fibreglass whip antenna on the Gemini 6A capsule survive the tremendous heat of atmospheric re-entry?

11) In Ron Howard's 1995 science fiction movie, Apollo 13, the astronauts lose electrical power and begin worrying about freezing to death. In reality, of course, the relentless bombardment of the Sun's rays would rapidly have overheated the vehicle to lethal temperatures with no atmosphere into which to dump the heat build up.

12) Who would dare risk using the LM on the Moon when a simulated Moon landing was never tested?

13) Instead of being able to jump at least ten feet high in "one sixth" gravity, the highest jump was about nineteen inches.

14) Even though slow motion photography was able to give a fairly convincing appearance of very low gravity, it could not disguise the fact that the astronauts travelled no further between steps than they would have on Earth.

15) If the Rover buggy had actually been moving in one-sixth gravity, then it would have required a twenty foot width in order not to have flipped over on nearly every turn. The Rover had the same width as ordinary small cars.

16) An astrophysicist who has worked for NASA writes that it takes two meters of shielding to protect against medium solar flares and that heavy ones give out tens of thousands of rem in a few hours. Russian scientists calculated in 1959 that astronauts needed a shield of 4 feet of lead to protect them on the Moons surface. Why didn't the astronauts on Apollo 14 and 16 die after exposure to this immense amount of radiation? And why are NASA only starting a project now to test the lunar radiation levels and what their effects would be on the human body if they have sent 12 men there already?

17) The fabric space suits had a crotch to shoulder zipper. There should have been fast leakage of air since even a pinhole deflates a tyre in short order.

18) The astronauts in these "pressurized" suits were easily able to bend their fingers, wrists, elbows, and knees at 5.2 p.s.i. and yet a boxer's 4 p.s.i. speed bag is virtually unbendable. The guys would have looked like balloon men if the suits had actually been pressurized.

19) How did the astronauts leave the LEM? In the documentary 'Paper Moon' The host measures a replica of the LEM at The Space Centre in Houston, what he finds is that the 'official' measurements released by NASA are bogus and that the astronauts could not have got out of the LEM.

20) The water sourced air conditioner backpacks should have produced frequent explosive vapour discharges. They never did.

21) During the Apollo 14 flag setup ceremony, the flag would not stop fluttering.

22) With more than a two second signal transmission round trip, how did a camera pan upward to track the departure of the Apollo 16 LEM? Gus Grissom, before he got burned alive in the Apollo I disaster A few minutes before he was burned to death in the Apollo I tragedy, Gus Grissom said, 'Hey, you guys in the control center, get with it. You expect me to go to the moon and you can't even maintain telephonic communications over three miles.' This statement says a lot about what Grissom thought about NASA's progress in the great space race.

23) Why did NASA's administrator resign just days before the first Apollo mission?

24) NASA launched the TETR-A satellite just months before the first lunar mission. The proclaimed purpose was to simulate transmissions coming from the moon so that the Houston ground crews (all those employees sitting behind computer screens at Mission Control) could "rehearse" the first moon landing. In other words, though NASA claimed that the satellite crashed shortly before the first lunar mission (a misinformation lie), its real purpose was to relay voice, fuel consumption, altitude, and telemetry data as if the transmissions were coming from an Apollo spacecraft as it neared the moon. Very few NASA employees knew the truth because they believed that the computer and television data they were receiving was the genuine article. Merely a hundred or so knew what was really going on; not tens of thousands as it might first appear.

25) In 1998, the Space Shuttle flew to one of its highest altitudes ever, three hundred and fifty miles, hundreds of miles below merely the beginning of the Van Allen Radiation Belts. Inside of their shielding, superior to that which the Apollo astronauts possessed, the shuttle astronauts reported being able to "see" the radiation with their eyes closed penetrating their shielding as well as the retinas of their closed eyes. For a dental x-ray on Earth which lasts 1/100th of a second we wear a 1/4 inch lead vest. Imagine what it would be like to endure several hours of radiation that you can see with your eyes closed from hundreds of miles away with 1/8 of an inch of aluminium shielding!

26) The Apollo 1 fire of January 27, 1967, killed what would have been the first crew to walk on the Moon just days after the commander, Gus Grissom, held an unapproved press conference complaining that they were at least ten years, not two, from reaching the Moon. The dead man's own son, who is a seasoned pilot himself, has in his possession forensic evidence personally retrieved from the charred spacecraft (that the government has tried to destroy on two or more occasions). Gus Grissom was obviously trying to make a big statement as he placed a lemon in the window of the Apollo I spacecraft as it sat ready for launch!

27) CNN issued the following report, "The radiation belts surrounding Earth may be more dangerous for astronauts than previously believed (like when they supposedly went through them thirty years ago to reach the Moon.) The phenomenon known as the 'Van Allen Belts' can spawn (newly discovered) 'Killer Electrons' that can dramatically affect the astronauts' health."

28) In 1969 computer chips had not been invented. The maximum computer memory was 256k, and this was housed in a large air conditioned building. In 2002 a top of the range computer requires at least 64 Mb of memory to run a simulated Moon landing, and that does not include the memory required to take off again once landed. The alleged computer on board Apollo 11 had 32k of memory. That's the equivalent of a simple calculator.

29) If debris from the Apollo missions was left on the Moon, then it would be visible today through a powerful telescope, however no such debris can be seen. The Clementine probe that recently mapped the Moons surface failed to show any Apollo artefacts left by Man during the missions. Where did the Moon Buggy and base of the LM go?

30) In the year 2005 NASA does not have the technology to land any man, or woman on the Moon, and return them safely to Earth.

31) Film evidence has recently been uncovered of a mis-labelled, unedited, behind-the-scenes video film, showing the crew of Apollo 11 staging part of their photography. The film evidence is shown in the video "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Moon!". and appears above in the 'Why Did Apollo 11 Astronauts Lie About Being In Deep Space?' section.

32) Why did the blueprints and plans for the Lunar Module and Moon Buggy get destroyed if this was one of History's greatest accomplishments?

33) Why did NASA need to airbrush out anomalies from lunar footage of the Moon if they have nothing to hide?

One thing I wonder is why all but ONE astronaut would swear on the bible they had been to the moon. Armstrong REFUSED to swear on a bible that he had walked on the moon surface. Why is that?

 

[PhenoMenal]

heh, so now the validity of landing on the moon comes down to swearing on a bible. Keep digging that hole S2D ...

 

[Guest]

I'll keep digging if you just stay ready to jump in it when I tell you.....