Dark Mission: NASA's dirty little secret.

[trouble]

Why do the mods let trolls like this in here?

S2D, your actions could serve as a field manual on the art of flaming & trolling, you could give seminares on the subject. You have mastered all it's tricks and sratagems with a felicity which indicates you have always carried a natural ability for it!







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[Guest]

Did I hear anyone actually say anything in relation to the topic or is it all about me again?

 

[Nubie Biatch]

Don't even pretend like you have posted anything valid here. Flame baiting and trolling are a little different than discussing a point.

Definition of Discussing - "an exchange of views on some topic".
Definition of Arguing - "To engage in a quarrel"

This thread doesn't belong on this site. It belongs on one of the nonsensical websites you get your propaganda from.

Go back to your cave.

 

[Guest]

You're arrogant name fits your arrogant attitude very well. I've talked about the subject repeatedly. If we never went to the moon, there is no way they could have seen alien bases up there. It doesn't damage the fact there might be something there like the poster initially was talking about. It does damage the idea that they could have seen it FIRST HAND.

I am still on topic, and you are calling me a caveman? I swear I thought this site was for adults last I looked, and your behavior is far from that. If you have ANYTHING else you want to say, say it to me in a PRIVATE message. Don't RUIN this thread with your trash.

I am making a serious attempt to stay on the topic of the moon and moon bases. LEAVE your trash at the door.

Maybe it's YOU that doesn't belong on this site.

 

[Guest]

You ask for people to hit you up in PM's pretty often I've noticed,I'd be suspicious if I didn't understand that people taking the time to PM you confirms your importance in your own mind,a trait of conspiracy "enthusiasts".

 

[Babombeez]

Hey c'mon guys, please tone the personal stuff down... This thread was started not to incite negative disagreements and bickering back and forth. I don't really care what side of the fence you stand on, I just want this topic to remain on focus which doesn't have anything to do with a "not landing on the moon." As I do believe there had to have been some type of moon landing, whether or not it was when NASA said we landed on the moon in 1969, or if it was quite a bit later. I don't care about this!

What I do care about is the article I posted. Regardless of the source of THIS article being from Pravda.Ru, that doesn't have anything to do with the reason the article was written in the first place. For some odd, peculiar reason US media journalists knew about this but didn't seem to write a story, but Russian and international sources jumped on it...

"There was a breakthrough event at the National Press Club in Washington, DC this past Tuesday, featuring staggering new evidence of ancient glass ruins on the Moon’s surface. All the evidence is covered in Hoagland and Bara’s best-selling new book, Dark Mission. The most impressive aspect of the National Press Club story is that the Russian media has now grabbed the ball… and this story is being covered on all the major Russian news networks, as well as a variety of mainstream media outlets!" There is a possibility that Putin has instructed his media to mainstream this story, in order to prepare the world for his plans to send Russians to the Moon… and establish a permanent base there! The US was offered in on the deal, but they turned him down."

This is the point of the article, stick with it. This is for real, not a hoax!

Beez

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

pops, there is a book you should read, written by two guys,Jacques Bergier and Louis Pauwels. Bergier being a close friend of Gurdjieff and Pauwels beings a respected mathematician. in short, not a couple of crackpots.
the original title of the book is in french: Le Matin des Magiciens, but there are english, spanish and german translations of the work.
funny though, i look for the title in english and get it in all languages but english...
i bet Stoned2death would enjoy the book as well.

paz.

 

[Guest]

You ask for people to hit you up in PM's pretty often I've noticed,I'd be suspicious if I didn't understand that people taking the time to PM you confirms your importance in your own mind,a trait of conspiracy "enthusiasts".

You're right. I ask you keep your bullshit out of Babombeez's thread. Send it directly to me. I'm man enough to handle anything you want to throw at me. Seems it is YOU guys who want the attention, or you wouldn't insist on interrupting this thread for this bullshit.

Either discuss the topic, or you can talk smack in a private message all day long. What are you afraid of?

Babombeez....do you have a link for the article you're talking about? If you want to believe there are alien bases on the moon, you might look at the fact that the moon landing was FAKED because there's the possibility that the technology we would have used to get there was too advanced to reveal at that time, hence the reason for the staged rocket trip. Just throwing it out there for discussion.

Like I said, the fact that we did not fly an appolo rocket to the moon doesn't mean there isn't something there. It just means that they could not have photographed it on that occassion.

 

[Pops]

S2D, you need to get your arguments straight. First you complain that NASA didn't test the 400 kilos of rock for water and now you say they never went. How then did they get the 400 kilos of rock that you say they never tested for water? BTW, rocks or soil collected from the side of the moon that is in sunlight would contain no water, as the heat from the sun would have evaporated it eons ago and it would have escaped into space. All water would be in the polar areas, just as it is on Mars, which does have an atmosphere(mostly CO2).

Beez, if these aliens had the intelligence and technology to travel billions or trillions of miles through space, why would they build glass houses on a body that has no atmosphere and is struck by thousands of meteors each year ? People who live in glass houses should not throw stones, nor should they build those glass houses on moons with no atmosphere to stop large rocks being thrown by the Gods. Maybe these aliens aren't as smart as we think they are.(or maybe they were killed by falling rocks without any water in them).

 

[Guest]

I said IF they have been there, why didn't we take samples for water then. Why didn't we test the ALLEGED 400 kilos of rocks from the moon? Why is it that they wanted to point hubble at the moon, not to show pictures of the landers, rovers, etc, but to use ultraviolet light to tell WHAT kinds of rocks are on the moon. What did they collect 400 kilos of rocks for if not to test for these things?? Did you know that rocks in antarctica exactly match the supposed moon rocks? Look it up.

As for aliens, their technology could be limitless as far as we're concerned. They could be a type 3 species that can harness the power of entire galaxies. It's far more likely that photographs of the moon are from telescopes, and if things are airbrushed out, that would be very telling. There are more sources that have reported the airbrushing of the photos long before this, and even videos about it.

The idea is to have an open mind, because the truth is we don't have a definitive answer about life beyond our earth. However, science does tell there IS life out there...and it's probably EVERYWHERE. Imagine space like a handfull of pond water. When you scoop it up with your hands, it's not obvious that anything is living in it, but under a microscope that water is literally TEEMING with life. Also, we know now that life can thrive in even what we consider the most adverse conditions. We know that a nuclear holocaust would likely NOT kill ALL life on earth either.

All signs point to the fact that there should be life under almost every rock in the solar system. Another thing...who's to say we didn't go to the moon at that time, but the apollo mission was made in a theater because they couldn't reveal the REAL technology that got us there, or where it came from.

There are SO many possibilities, the worst thing anyone can do is make an assumption of one such possibility and close their mind to the rest.

 

[Pops]

It is fine to have an open mind, but apparently some folks have such an open mind that their brains fall out. Not aimed at anyone in particular, just an observation.

 

[HCSmyth]

What are the chances that ALL three are true:

9/11 was a conspiracy masterminded by Israeli intelligence

AND

The Moon Landing was Faked

AND

The Government Secretly Flies Airplanes Around Spraying Chemicals?

 

[Backdoor man]

I believe this subject (whether or not Nasa went to the moon) is something that would take weeks and months of careful analysis in order for a person to be able to come to some kind of conclusion about....
...But yet again i see people argueing the toss in favour of a few selective facts and possibilities they have picked up from somewhere, be it from Nasa or from the skeptics
The only way to be able to have any idea of the truth is to study all of the evidence available and then make a conclusion based upon logic and reason, not by blindly following those we want to trust.

I will not make a comment on whether or not i believe Nasa actually landed on the moon in 1969 because as i have not taken the time to judge for myself, i do not feel i deserve to have a say, because all that say would be, could only be at best an ill-informed opinion.

I just wish those people who delve into a subject that really matters, such as the attacks on 9/11, would do the same and take the time to study both sides of the debate, one needs to know and understand the official version of events, then study the "supposed" events, then come to some kind of conclusion upon exhausting every avenue of research available.
That is what i did with regards to 9/11 - that is why i believe i deserve to voice my views on that subject, because it is one i understand.

And anyone who believes the official version of the events that day is nothing more than a hopeless, mindless gullible lunatic. The reality of course, like this subject, is that 99% of those supporting this version have not even studied it for themselves.

 

[Pops]

All conspiracy theories, whether 9/11,moon landing,the CIA murder of Cock Robin, and the government propaganda plot to convince Chicken Little that the sky was falling, all rely on hundreds or thousands of people keeping their mouths shut, something that 9 out of 10 people cannot do.

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

All conspiracy theories, whether 9/11,moon landing,the CIA murder of Cock Robin, and the government propaganda plot to convince Chicken Little that the sky was falling, all rely on hundreds or thousands of people keeping their mouths shut, something that 9 out of 10 people cannot do.

well pops, no offense, but your reasoning here contradicts itself; if indeed 9 out of 10 people can't keep their mouths shut, then according to your reasoning, they have spoken out about whatever, and hence, we get to know about whatever, so we get to hear about conspiracy stories, right?

an example, here's a lot of people with personal experiences with serious jobs not keeping their mouths shuts, more of those niners out of tenners
http://www.netro.ca/disclosure/npccmenu.htm

paz.

 

[newbgrow]

I agree with Pops... Government conspiracy involving 9/11.... OK, that's something we can work out. The motive is there. The money, the oil, the special interest groups. The information guarded by a secretive intelligence organization.

NASA. The moon rocks. The scientific community. Most of that is public domain. They showed those rocks from the moon to hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of engineers around the world - all who could make a professional opinion - yet, we don't hear any of them making accusations. Fact is: there are too many people in the world to keep this secret.

And what would the government gain from this? Perhaps, the NASA officials have made a dark pact with the Martian President to take over the world in 2012? That sounds like fantasy - BECAUSE IT IS!!

Leave it to professionals whether the moon pictures, etc., are real or fake. If you can't provide some real evidence that makes scientific, logical sense, don't expect me to take you seriously.

I'm sorry if that makes me "no better than the rest of them" to you. Fortunately, you could make all the attacks you want, with your credibility, it doesn't say much.

For the record, I have an open mind. I'm just not absolutely insane.

I believe in dungeons and dragons, aliens, elfs, imps, trolls, hobbits, extraterrestial starships, God, and all that other stuff, just like you do S2D. The difference between you and me is: I just don't believe they're all after me.

 

[Backdoor man]

Fact is with 9/11 there are many credible "whistleblowers" from the FBI ect who have not kept quiet about what they know.
I dont want to take this way off topic and onto 9/11 But those "usual suspects" trying to put the 9/11 "conspiracy theory" on the same shelf as Aliens and castles on the moon are again deflecting via the use of the old Straw man, and this needs to be pointed out for all to see.

 

[trouble]

Fact is with 9/11 there are many credible "whistleblowers" from the FBI ect who have not kept quiet about what they know.
I dont want to take this way off topic and onto 9/11 But those "usual suspects" trying to put the 9/11 "conspiracy theory" on the same shelf as Aliens and castles on the moon are again deflecting via the use of the old Straw man, and this needs to be pointed out for all to see.

 

[Backdoor man]

Look - at - what - I - wrote - ......

....I dont want to take this off topic and onto 9/11...

M'kay?

 

[Babombeez]

Beez, if these aliens had the intelligence and technology to travel billions or trillions of miles through space, why would they build glass houses on a body that has no atmosphere and is struck by thousands of meteors each year ? People who live in glass houses should not throw stones, nor should they build those glass houses on moons with no atmosphere to stop large rocks being thrown by the Gods. Maybe these aliens aren't as smart as we think they are.(or maybe they were killed by falling rocks without any water in them).

I never said ET's necessarily built them, and you don't take into account how old they might be. Perhaps at one point the moon did have an atmosphere, and perhaps ancient humanoids built them, I don't know. I am not asserting to know the answers of who built these lunar structures, nor have I read the book all this controversy is about. I have ordered the book, since Barnes and Noble was clean out. This book is making headlines around world, it is an Amazon best seller right now and was supposed to make the New York Times best seller list soon, if not already.

The book by Richard Hoagland and Mike Bara makes a scientific case, backed with pictures and other evidence. In the book there were quotes from the JPL scientist who is blowing the whistle on NASA, and its occult origins, acting as another Defense Department. If you want to hear the radio interview with Richard Hoagland then I suggest searching it on YouTube. I also supplied the link several pages back. He also provides a psychological case of the NASA astronauts, and their extremely odd behavior when confronted on things, as such... He tells of a time when Buzz Aldrin punched someone at the Academy Awards for questioning him about his moon experience and what he saw there.

There is so much more to be learned, I think this thread could prove to be useful if we all could just step back from our egos and just give the evidence a chance, as for one I haven't even read this book with my own two eyes.

Listen to the radio interview with Hoagland if you can, it is a series of 10 min radio segments, quite intriguing.

So for anyone to say this is a hoax and not examined what the scientific case these guys have made, that is NOT FAIR!

Hope we can keep this thread open, and perhaps learn something.


Beez

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