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Dark Mission: NASA's dirty little secret.

genkisan

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NASA actually took too many photos of the moon during their visit. So many so that the astronauts didn't have time to blink because they had to take photos at such an alarming rate leaving absolutely no time to do ANYTHING else like set up the rover, let alone drive it all over like it's a baja!

It's cool though...China's satellite is now in orbit of the moon. I can't wait to hear the fruits of their research.
 

PhenoMenal

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Babombeez said:
and how about you tell us these facts! dude!
Beez :wave:
... :smile:
Let's start with this ...
"Some claims can be empirically discredited by three retroreflector arrays left on the Moon by Apollo 11, 14 and 15. Today, anyone on Earth with an appropriate laser and telescope system may bounce laser beams off these devices, verifying deployment of the Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment at historically documented Apollo moon landing sites."

... if it didn't happen how come all the hardware is still on the moon???

... and ...
"In addition, close scrutiny of film footage of the EVA's shows clearly something that could not be replicated in an Earth sound-stage. Lunar dust kicked up by the astronauts and the Lunar Rovers shoots up quite high because of the low gravity, but settles just as rapidly as there is no air resistance."

But anyway, I know conspiracy theories make good TV viewing so you believe what you want ;)
 
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You saw these with a telescope PhenoMenal?

I'm curious. How is it those are visible with a decent telescope (which I have, and haven't seen them) yet we can't see the rover or lander which are physically much larger? These range devices are only the size of a suitcase.

They can NOT be seen with a simple telescope. It takes sophisticated equipment, or so they say....

This is very interesting:

With lasers that are shot at the moon, it is very important that the minimum beam divergence possible be achieved. This is because only a very, very small percentage of this laser light actually hits the small retro-reflector and is returned to the earth. Telescopes are used to collimate these laser beams so that the smallest possible beam of light (and thus the most intense beam of light on the moon's surface) hits the moon. Even though telescopes make the beam very wide at the time the beam is shot, the collimation more than makes up for this wide beam when the beam hits the moon.



Shooting through a telescope also provides another benefit. Telescopes have tracking mechanisms that are very, very accurate. Thus by shooting a laser through a telescope, the pointing of the laser is very accurate. When the beam gets to the moon it is about 7 km in diameter and when it returns from the moon it is about 20 km in diameter.[28] Only a very, very small percentage of the 7 km diameter laser beam actually hits the retro-reflector, thus only a minuscule amount of light actually returns to the earth. Furthermore, only a minuscule amount of the 20 km wide returning light actually hits the sending telescope. Needless to say, extremely sensitive detection equipment is needed to detect the returning light.

Hmm...the beam comes back 20km wide, how can you be sure the "light" you receive back is actually the laser? It would lose so much intensity being spread out like that it's highly unlikely. A receiver on this end would likely have a VERY difficult time detecting a laser beam 20km wide amongst all the other light reflecting back to earth.

Anyway...even if these TINY little suckers are up there it does NOT prove conclusively that MAN walked on the moon. They could have MUCH easier sent these and had them parachute down on their own.
 

Pops

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Pheno, you have to realize that most of these folks are ****ed out of their head on all that lousy Foster's that you Ozzies ship over here. The only reason that you are smarter than us is because you guys won't drink the shit.

Of course, we went to the moon. My son, who is an aerospace engineer would get a real kick out of this thread. I don't see how you folks can sleep at night with the government blowing up the twin towers,faking the moon landing ,hiding ET ships at Roswell and blowing down the 3 little pigs house(yes, the government IS the big,bad wolf.)
 

PhenoMenal

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Pops,
Pheno, you have to realize that most of these folks are ****ed out of their head on all that lousy Foster's that you Ozzies ship over here. The only reason that you are smarter than us is because you guys won't drink the shit.
mate we export that shit for a reason :smile:
i dont know anybody who drinks it
 

trouble

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Babombeez said:
The former manager of the Data and Photo Control Department at NASA's Lunar Receiving Laboratory during the manned Apollo Lunar Program, Ken Johnston, has released quite a number of sensational statements recently in the USA. The specialist said that U.S. astronauts found ancient ruins of artificial origin and a previously unknown technology to control gravitation when then landed on the Moon. Astronauts took pictures of the objects that they found, but NASA ordered Johnston to destroy the images. Johnston did not follow the order. He said that the U.S. government had been keeping this information a secret for 40 years.


I find irony in the fact that some of the same people on the 9/11 conspiracy thread that were saying that 9/11 was an inside job & that the moon landing was staged by the government, now want to believe in photo's that were supposedly taken by the same Astronauts that they believe never went to the moon.

I guess everyone needs something to believe in even if they dont know what they believe?




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Haha you caught that too huh Trouble?How about some of these people don't even believe what they say here and just want to start a conspiracy argument lol,I be done with the stupid shit.Let them have their Zeitgeist and lunar conspiracies,I'm just not that bored with reality yet..
 

Sleepy

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galactic munchies!

galactic munchies!

at least when we get back to the moon, there will be decent chinese take out available! :muahaha: :jump:
 

waydee

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For people to say that the USA never landed on the moon just makes me lose a little more faith in humanity...

theres a whole lot of evidence that they did and very little that they didn't. A few digg posts, some conspiracy sites and a few crazy youtube videos aren't real evidence.



China are trying to get to the moon because they're the next superpower and want to prove their worth - if you can afford a lunar exploration program, the rest of the world knows you mean business. If they really want to impress me, get to mars - one up the Americans :)
 

nycdfan042

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If they cant drive on earth what makes you think they can drive in space LOL KIDDDIN!!
 
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Why is it that in the 60's we could make it to the moon in less than a decade, yet now, NASA can't get back on the moon till 2020? What are they stupid? What about the monkey that died just a week before the launch when they sent him into space for 9 days? Today's calculators have more computing power than all the appollo missions, yet we can't make it back up there for another 13 years?

Phenomenal, nothing else to say about your telescope lie? :chin:
 

newbgrow

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S2D, why? Money. The cold war ended. We don't have to prove ourselves anymore. The American public doesn't give two shits about NASA.

I find all this conspiracy theory bullshit rather repetitive now. Yes, S2D, nothing exists. The government and everyone else is lying to you. Hell, you don't even exist. You had no parents, you were born in a test tube, spawned off by the Matrix. The world is really a giant computer simulation done by "God" (a Martian). The US Government knew about this so they hid the evidence.

Happy now??
 

Dr Dog

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I have agree with the nay sayers here too
The most damning piece of evidence is what they have not done, yes why have we not been back? Anyone? Any country, surely the other space programs would have landed on the moon. We should have a base there before we have a space station. 1969, I was not even born yet, and I am 35, wow, all I have seen is a bunch of shuttles explode and a few shots of the Canada Arm.

Hopefully the truth comes out before all the people involved in it die.

As for the original topic, I would love to see some evidence that we were actually there, before I believe they found alien artifacts on the moon.
I think Nasa is holding some secrets, but I do not think it is them finding anything
 

Babombeez

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For ALL the people who have missed the point of this thread, once again...

The topic is about a book, which had quotes from a former NASA/JPL scientist which were controversial. He claims NASA has been hiding and obscuring the evidence that during "a moon landing", not saying we never landed on the moon, just when did we land on the moon is the real question, but during this landing there was enough photographic evidence that other civilizations have existed (with structures on the moon)... WHO BUILT THEM? WHY HAS NASA BEEN KEEPING THIS SECRET? THIS IS THE REAL ISSUE...

Many of you are misrepresenting my argument, STRAW MAN!

Beez
 
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newbgrow said:
S2D, why? Money. The cold war ended. We don't have to prove ourselves anymore. The American public doesn't give two shits about NASA.

I find all this conspiracy theory bullshit rather repetitive now. Yes, S2D, nothing exists. The government and everyone else is lying to you. Hell, you don't even exist. You had no parents, you were born in a test tube, spawned off by the Matrix. The world is really a giant computer simulation done by "God" (a Martian). The US Government knew about this so they hid the evidence.

Happy now??

The american public should give two shits about NASA. They spend $$BILLIONS$$ of our money every year. I have a RIGHT to know the truth when they're spending MY ****ing money. I'm not just going to monkey on by without asking questions when things don't make sense, but I'm sure you'd be "happy now" if all of us did.

I find YOUR bullshit rather repetetive. At first you seemed somewhat educated, but now I see you're just as ignorant as the rest.

What good is anything if we can't question it? Does everything in your life have to be handed to you, or can you do ANY critical thinking of your own? Do you trust government that much?

NASA is going to send men back to the moon in 2020, but first, they want to measure RADIATION LEVELS....HMM. :chin: After all the probes and all the MANNED trips to the moon, NASA doesn't have enough info about the radiation there? The new project is called Crater. Wtf? Same with water. Collected 40+ kilos of rocks, but yet they're going to crash a probe into the moon to sample for water? Wtf?

You can act like it's all conjecture, that's fine. Just do it somewhere else and let the adults discuss the topic.
 
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Hey Babombeez....there's no point discussing what they found if they never made it man.
 
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