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Dark Mission: NASA's dirty little secret.
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Babombeez
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Stay on topic! Can we please steer clear from irrelevant information. Thanks!
This article was from a few days ago---
WASHINGTON (Nov. 12) - Democratic U.S. presidential hopeful Dennis Kucinich may have been ridiculed for saying he had seen a UFO, but for some former military pilots and other observers, unidentified flying objects are no laughing matter.
An international panel of two dozen former pilots and government officials called on the U.S. government on Monday to reopen its generation-old UFO investigation as a matter of safety and security given continuing reports about flying discs, glowing spheres and other strange sightings.
"Especially after the attacks of 9/11, it is no longer satisfactory to ignore radar returns ... which cannot be associated with performances of existing aircraft and helicopters," they said in a statement released at a news conference.
The panelists from seven countries, including former senior military officers, said they had each seen a UFO or conducted an official investigation into UFO phenomena.
The subject of UFOs grabbed the spotlight in the U.S. presidential race last month when Kucinich, a member of Congress from Ohio, said during a televised debate with other Democratic candidates that he had seen one.
Former presidents Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter are both reported to have claimed UFO sightings.
Most turn out to be misidentified aircraft, satellites or meteors. A panelist who once worked for Britain's Ministry of Defense said 5 percent of incidents cannot be explained.
But the sightings are often dismissed by authorities without proper investigations, UFO activists say.
"It's a question of who you going to believe: your lying eyes or the government?" remarked John Callahan, a former Federal Aviation Administration investigator, who said the CIA in 1987 tried to hush up the sighting of a huge lighted ball four times the size of a jumbo jet in Alaska.
The panel, organized by a group dedicated to winning credibility for the study of UFOs, urged Washington to resume UFO investigations through the U.S. Air Force or NASA.
"It would certainly, I think, take a lot of angst out of this issue," said former Arizona Gov. Fife Symington, who said he was among hundreds who saw a delta-shaped craft with enormous lights silently traverse the sky near Phoenix in 1997.
The Air Force investigated 12,618 UFO reports from 1947 to 1969 in what was known as Project Blue Book. Investigators concluded that the incidents posed no threat and there was no evidence of space aliens or a super technology in operation.
"Since the termination of Project Blue Book, nothing has occurred that would support a resumption of UFO investigations," the Air Force said on its Web site.
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NASA, acting as another Defense Department has been keeping this secret for far too long.
To believe that we are the ONLY civilization in this solar system, let alone the universe, is completely and utterly EGOCENTRIC!
Beez
This article was from a few days ago---
WASHINGTON (Nov. 12) - Democratic U.S. presidential hopeful Dennis Kucinich may have been ridiculed for saying he had seen a UFO, but for some former military pilots and other observers, unidentified flying objects are no laughing matter.
An international panel of two dozen former pilots and government officials called on the U.S. government on Monday to reopen its generation-old UFO investigation as a matter of safety and security given continuing reports about flying discs, glowing spheres and other strange sightings.
"Especially after the attacks of 9/11, it is no longer satisfactory to ignore radar returns ... which cannot be associated with performances of existing aircraft and helicopters," they said in a statement released at a news conference.
The panelists from seven countries, including former senior military officers, said they had each seen a UFO or conducted an official investigation into UFO phenomena.
The subject of UFOs grabbed the spotlight in the U.S. presidential race last month when Kucinich, a member of Congress from Ohio, said during a televised debate with other Democratic candidates that he had seen one.
Former presidents Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter are both reported to have claimed UFO sightings.
Most turn out to be misidentified aircraft, satellites or meteors. A panelist who once worked for Britain's Ministry of Defense said 5 percent of incidents cannot be explained.
But the sightings are often dismissed by authorities without proper investigations, UFO activists say.
"It's a question of who you going to believe: your lying eyes or the government?" remarked John Callahan, a former Federal Aviation Administration investigator, who said the CIA in 1987 tried to hush up the sighting of a huge lighted ball four times the size of a jumbo jet in Alaska.
The panel, organized by a group dedicated to winning credibility for the study of UFOs, urged Washington to resume UFO investigations through the U.S. Air Force or NASA.
"It would certainly, I think, take a lot of angst out of this issue," said former Arizona Gov. Fife Symington, who said he was among hundreds who saw a delta-shaped craft with enormous lights silently traverse the sky near Phoenix in 1997.
The Air Force investigated 12,618 UFO reports from 1947 to 1969 in what was known as Project Blue Book. Investigators concluded that the incidents posed no threat and there was no evidence of space aliens or a super technology in operation.
"Since the termination of Project Blue Book, nothing has occurred that would support a resumption of UFO investigations," the Air Force said on its Web site.
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NASA, acting as another Defense Department has been keeping this secret for far too long.
To believe that we are the ONLY civilization in this solar system, let alone the universe, is completely and utterly EGOCENTRIC!
Beez
Stoned2Death said:
STD ( Sexually Transmitted Disease ) As you reach new heights of hate & stupidity with your post, it's oblivous to all that you lack that inate refinement which allows one to have common decency and respect for others. Seriously, if you wish to continue expressing your hate for Jew's, Blacks, and any other race of people not of the same incest red-neck blood as your own, then, go hang out on one of the many Nazi-KKK all white web-sites that you are continullay promoting on ICMAG. I'm certain your twisted beliefs and hate for others will fit right in there with your own kind.
Your posting of this crap has already been the main cause of several other good threads being binned. I'm certain it's only a matter of time befor you succeed with Bezz's Moon People thread as well.
How many more decent unrelated threads are you going to Highjack to promote your KKK-Nazi propaganda ?
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Babombeez
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Nasa told to solve 'UFO crash' X-File
Sunday November 11, 2007
The Observer
For four decades, residents of the tiny Pennsylvania town of Kecksburg have told their story of strange blue lights in the sky one winter's evening and a fireball crashing into woods.
On 9 December, 1965, they say, they saw armed soldiers cordoning off the area and a large metallic acorn-shaped object bearing strange hieroglyphics driven off at speed on the back of a lorry. They talk of menacing plain-clothes officials visiting homes and warning local people not to tell anyone of what they saw.
Until now the US government has denied that anything sinister took place. It has maintained that a thorough search of the woods by the air force, the only federal agency to have acknowledged it was there, found nothing. But now Nasa has been ordered to examine its X-Files to solve the mystery.
Steve McConnell, Nasa's public liaison officer, has admitted two boxes of papers from the time of the Kecksburg incident are missing. The episode has parallels to the 1947 Roswell incident, when a UFO was said to have landed in New Mexico.
'For so many years, a lot of good people in Pennsylvania were told by their government that what they had to say was a lie or that they were hallucinating,' said Leslie Kean, a journalist who launched a lawsuit four years ago to force Nasa to open its archives.
Washington judge Emmett Sullivan refused to accept Nasa's claim that the papers had been lost. He gave it until the end of the year to examine its records. 'Something came down that night,' said Kean.
'Nasa has been stonewalling and now it's required to do the search it didn't do in the first place. It's a victory for those patriotic people who didn't like being told that they were making things up.'
Stan Gordon, a UFO investigator living close to the site, interviewed several witnesses. He said: 'It's interesting that [witnesses say] it was made of one solid piece of metal with no panels or rivets, and that it was moving relatively slowly and made almost a controlled landing.
'I have no doubt the government knows a lot more about this than it has revealed to the public.'
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Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!!!! --- NASA!!!! Concealers of the truth.
Beez
Sunday November 11, 2007
The Observer
For four decades, residents of the tiny Pennsylvania town of Kecksburg have told their story of strange blue lights in the sky one winter's evening and a fireball crashing into woods.
On 9 December, 1965, they say, they saw armed soldiers cordoning off the area and a large metallic acorn-shaped object bearing strange hieroglyphics driven off at speed on the back of a lorry. They talk of menacing plain-clothes officials visiting homes and warning local people not to tell anyone of what they saw.
Until now the US government has denied that anything sinister took place. It has maintained that a thorough search of the woods by the air force, the only federal agency to have acknowledged it was there, found nothing. But now Nasa has been ordered to examine its X-Files to solve the mystery.
Steve McConnell, Nasa's public liaison officer, has admitted two boxes of papers from the time of the Kecksburg incident are missing. The episode has parallels to the 1947 Roswell incident, when a UFO was said to have landed in New Mexico.
'For so many years, a lot of good people in Pennsylvania were told by their government that what they had to say was a lie or that they were hallucinating,' said Leslie Kean, a journalist who launched a lawsuit four years ago to force Nasa to open its archives.
Washington judge Emmett Sullivan refused to accept Nasa's claim that the papers had been lost. He gave it until the end of the year to examine its records. 'Something came down that night,' said Kean.
'Nasa has been stonewalling and now it's required to do the search it didn't do in the first place. It's a victory for those patriotic people who didn't like being told that they were making things up.'
Stan Gordon, a UFO investigator living close to the site, interviewed several witnesses. He said: 'It's interesting that [witnesses say] it was made of one solid piece of metal with no panels or rivets, and that it was moving relatively slowly and made almost a controlled landing.
'I have no doubt the government knows a lot more about this than it has revealed to the public.'
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Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire!!!! --- NASA!!!! Concealers of the truth.
Beez
Hey Paz, when I first read your last post I was eating and so only reading rather than studying it, as a consequence, some of the points you raised went over my head. You seem to be equating an ontologial reality in some way with Platos forms, which I would say exist in a plane of reality somewhat higher than ontological reality. Ontolical examples being more akin to his particulars rather than the original forms themselves. Anyway, sorry about that. On a side note, was Heidegger a dualist? Just I'm confused as to why he would feel the need to separate the actual and the ontological self. Perhaps I need to read his work to gain insight, but there are so many works to read, and I tend to filter out dualists these days.
greetings mr. GMT,
i understand what you are saying, and i may be using the word ontological kind of wrong then. i always thought (in regards Heidegger but also applies to Descartes' cogito ergo sum) that whatever is it that allows us to doubt our own existence is the ultimately "real" being (as you pointed out, which is what ironically proves we do exist). in short, the being is what animates the body and its senses i.e: the animus, the soul. as you know, many equate soul with the tooth faery and relegate it to an ontological category; i never thought about ontology in a negative-imaginary sense though, just more like a physical vs. metaphysical issue.
this ontological being is not really separated from the physical existence of being, but rather, it is what allows the sensible reality to become animated.
but i am willing to drop my usage of ontological and simply replace it with metaphysical as it may cause confusion. thank you man.
much peace!
i understand what you are saying, and i may be using the word ontological kind of wrong then. i always thought (in regards Heidegger but also applies to Descartes' cogito ergo sum) that whatever is it that allows us to doubt our own existence is the ultimately "real" being (as you pointed out, which is what ironically proves we do exist). in short, the being is what animates the body and its senses i.e: the animus, the soul. as you know, many equate soul with the tooth faery and relegate it to an ontological category; i never thought about ontology in a negative-imaginary sense though, just more like a physical vs. metaphysical issue.
this ontological being is not really separated from the physical existence of being, but rather, it is what allows the sensible reality to become animated.
but i am willing to drop my usage of ontological and simply replace it with metaphysical as it may cause confusion. thank you man.
much peace!
G
Guest
Anyway...Beez your topic is being diverted into multiple conversations about anything but the moon. Did you look at the evidence that man wasn't on the moon? I do think it will be interesting to see if NASA turns up any documents about certain events on earth, but I am doubtful they will produce anything concerning life on the moon unless a robot brings it back.
hello Stoned2Death,
let me ask you, what is your opinion on the thesis that we (we as in modern human civilization, not necessarily the u.s) have indeed gone to the moon, found not only structures there, but aliens with spaceships as well. are you simply saying man has not gone to the moon not now not ever, or just that the u.s did not go to the moon when it said it went for the first time?
paz
let me ask you, what is your opinion on the thesis that we (we as in modern human civilization, not necessarily the u.s) have indeed gone to the moon, found not only structures there, but aliens with spaceships as well. are you simply saying man has not gone to the moon not now not ever, or just that the u.s did not go to the moon when it said it went for the first time?
paz
Babombeez
Active member
Stoned2Death said:
Hey S2D... I have indeed seen entire cases on how the moon landing was faked, do you know the band Rammstein? They have a song called Amerika, and the music video is about the Hollywood moon landing, in other words... It was faked, in a studio.
I tend to lean in the direction that there is a good chance the United States did not land on the Moon when they said they did, in 1969. I am not necessarily concerned much with this.
There is no way that I can conceive of to know that we "never" went to the Moon, but I will admit there is the possibility, but how probable?
There are reports of alien disc sightings in orbit around the moon, strange orbs of light. Perhaps we went to the moon, took photographs, and then booked it the hell out of there because we discovered there was some type of civilization on the moon. This probably freaked us the hell out, especially NASA, and then it became a National Security concern and they classified all of this information, so very, very few people probably know about it.
There are so many red flags... Why have we not gone back to the Moon? And all of a sudden Russia, China, India are all hyped up about it... Finally they have the technology and there is nothing the US can do to stop them.
Let me also ask why is there like NO media coverage of China's Moon mission?
This is a big deal in the international scheme of things!
Beez
G
Guest
I'm only stating we didn't go when they say we did. I truly believe in the possibility that if we did go to the moon, it would be using technology the general public knows nothing about. There are far too many technological difficulties that we quite frankly STILL don't have the means to overcome, publicly. The capsule too small, not enough shielding, not enough room for enough fuel, the fake photos and video, etc. etc.
Think about this. In 1/6th of the earths gravity you could jump 10 feet in the air. The astronauts never "hop" more than a foot in the air, and we can EASILY jump higher on earth. This suggests those heavy suits made it even harder to fake walking in low gravity when you're really in a 1G environment.
Think about this. In 1/6th of the earths gravity you could jump 10 feet in the air. The astronauts never "hop" more than a foot in the air, and we can EASILY jump higher on earth. This suggests those heavy suits made it even harder to fake walking in low gravity when you're really in a 1G environment.
Babombeez said:
Dude, why don't you actually respond to me rather than spamming the same article over and over again? Did you not read:
(i) The Administration shall be considered a defense agency of the United States for the purpose of chapter 17 of title 35 of the United States Code.
And the purpose of Chapter 17 of Title 35 is "FILING APPLICATIONS IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY". So NASA will regulate the filling of applications in foreign countries. There's not many more ways you can manipulate this when all is stated explicitly, and not taken out of context as you do with all your conspiracy theory excepts.
And...?
That is non-sequitor! How did you arrive to that conclusion, when it says in your article NASA would be responsible for all civilian space activities, while the Department of Defense would be responsible for development of weapons systems and military operations. So how is NASA acting as the Defense Department?? Perhaps you should read your own posts.
GMT said:
Sorry, but you're wrong. You do not exist, you are only a figment of my imagination. At any moment I could turn you off and you will fade into the background of inanimate objects like the coke can on my desk.
GMT said:
You overestimate the value of your consciousness and "intelligence". You would be hard-pressed to prove you existed physically, ontologically no doubt, nor scientifically, since such proof does not exist. How can you be so certain "God" does not exist, or unicorns, father christmas, and tooth fairies? Can it be possible that we exist metaphysically in "His" imagination using our physical forms as an abstract representation? Or perhaps the world is a software simulated and we are "People" objects.
Either none of us are right or wrong (this is all theoretical), or this whole thing is way above your head.
GMT said:
Yet, there is no proof. How can you be sure this so-called rule of Mathematics is true? As I recall, math has never stated 1+1=2 as absolute fact, only a theory. You respond with the 'identity theory', yet that is a theory as well. I guess that depends on how you define "is"...
GMT said:
No, we are not in ontological waters, and never were past the first paragraph. If Jesus existed as a real person, which no scientist has been able to prove or disprove, then he could have been black (read: race). That's a nice attempt at humour (dead body no longer black lol), but sorry, it doesn't answer the question.
GMT said:
Wierd. I've always thought black absorbs heat, while white objects reflect heat. And since white skin is only white on the outside, it does no better to retain heat than black skin (but it does reflect heat and light, which becomes heat.) Test this by wearing a black shirt vs white shirt on a hot summer day. Also, as proven with albino indians (Moors, etc.), white skin increases susceptibility to certain diseases and cancers. Perhaps a defect?
GMT said:
Well, no, see the "revisionist" theory is that there were rats and diseases in the concentration camps filled with people. So in order to cut down on the spread of diseases, since they didn't provide very good hygeine to their captives, they sprayed chemicals. So what killed the Jews were the diseases, not the chemicals. Instead of calling me anti-Semitic, "prove" me wrong using REAL logic, not a play on definitions.
GMT said:5, Why else would you ask for them.
I forgot my question... ah well. But how wrong can someone be on so many different levels?
Stoned2Death said:
Wow Stoned2Death, how low you've sunk. Propaganda 101, right? Associate all your detractors to something undesirable and discredit them with a generalized statement... And here you are, doing exactly the same thing. I'm proud of you, man, because now I can put your name up next to my little list.
The crew:
HCSmyth
Stoned2Death
So how about you start replying to my FACTS instead of taking your own thread off topic to defame, slander, ridicule, insult, attack, and criticize us.
I see Pops is on that list, too. We've provided more facts than you could wrap your miniscule little head around in a lifetime.
Babombeez said:Time to shut your mouth, old man.
Thanks S2D...
-So what I find so interesting is how NASA says it is a "civilian agency" but then in the NASA charter the agency completely contradicts itself, when it says the "administration will act like a defense department." I am pointing out a practical inconsistency here.
I've already told you a million times, if you had read your article in context, it said the administration will act like a defense department in terms of protecting regulated technologies from foreign applications. It did not say that NASA was a defense department, period, in all circumstances, only in that particular instance it would act defensively. Are you still going to pick at this point?
Babombeez said:
If what you said was true, the US government would go on a crusade to rid the world of scientists in the name of "national security", and since every boy and girl over 2nd grade can tell you dinosaurs existed before 4004 BCE, there would be a lot of problems.
Babombeez said:
For the last Fcking time NASA is not a defense agency. You can keep posting from your "Bible" and run and hide when someone posts evidence to debunk it... whatever.
G
Guest
Shit I leave for a few days and end up last on the list of "the crew"?Thats pretty disheartening..Thats the worst thing you've ever done to me.My agenda rules and I won't be placed last on any list of Zionist agents!
G
Guest
Hey Beez.....still hardly any coverage of China's moon mission. Odd isn't it?
Babombeez
Active member
newbgrow said:
Listen to yourself. Indeed you cannot pretend that NASA is not acting as an adjunct to the Department of Defense, helping with the implementation of space weaponry in orbit around the Earth, and other top secret programs.... I did not take the passage out of context. I am not the one running and hiding here. By the way piss off
Beez
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