Dark Mission: NASA's dirty little secret.

[Babombeez]

One thing leads to another; we were talking about the China space missions and now the topic is shifted onto Japan. Then, how is "hardly any" even relevant as we are talking about different things? If you're going to call me out on one thing, don't post something contrary in the next sentence. Make up your mind Stoned2Death.

Now, to the juicy link of yours.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!
Our friend Stoned2Death has just proved there are no cities on the moon with his new link, once again offering contradicting evidence. Thanks Stoned2Death, I couldn't have done better myself. Now's time for you to make your graceful exit.


Edit: It seems to me, Stoned2Death, you're only interested in arguing insignificant details and semantics while always moving targets, that way you never run out of things to say, or so it seems... The big picture is that you have contradicted yourself many times, and I don't even have to make a point to refute you, because the burden of proof is on you to get your facts straight since you are the one making accusations.

So now you have completely abandoned your stance that NASA is not a defense department working with the U.S military?


Using your own words: It seems to me, [Nubie Biatch], you're only interested in arguing insignificant details and semantics while always moving targets, that way you never run out of things to say, or so it seems...

Looks like you were talking about yourself in that one


Beez

 

[Guest]

I suggested we didn't go to the moon and got assaulted by nazi, hitler, racist, anti-semite, and five thousand other things.

I listed the crew of people turning your thread into a circus side show and simply refuse to respond. I'm letting them make the asses out of themselves and it works GREAT. Just look up! ^^^

There is an obvious concerted effort to stomp my name in the mud in EVERY post, yet I'm supposed to be a problem?

The PROBLEM I cause is I spit it like it is and these sayanim can't take it.

We didn't land on the moon in the sixties, but there could be bases there. Keep watch for the Japan moon mission in action right now as we speak.

 

[Babombeez]

China launched its first lunar orbiter on Wednesday amid a blaze of patriotic propaganda celebrating the country's space ambitions and technological prowess.

The Chang'e I orbiter lifted off from the southwestern province of Sichuan at 1005 GMT. Barring technical failure, it will reach its orbit around the Moon on 5 November and spend more than a year scanning the lunar surface in preparation for an uncrewed rover planned for 2012 and a crewed landing in future decades.

A torrent of state media reports has celebrated Chang'e I, named after a mythical Chinese goddess who flew to the Moon, as visible proof of the country's growing strength.

"Without a doubt, the launch of the Chang'e I will again show the world that Chinese people have the willpower, confidence and ability to constantly scale the heights of science and technology," said a commentator on the Sina website.

Thousands of space enthusiasts, tourists and reporters crowded slopes and viewing platforms near the small city to watch the launch, cheering as the rocket disappeared into the clouds and left a ribbon of smoke.

'Homegrown' innovation

President Hu Jintao told a Communist Party Congress last week that encouraging "homegrown innovation" would be a focus of state policy in coming years.

Indeed, many experts believe the Chang'e mission will boost the nation's technological capabilities.

"This has important significance for China's space programme development, in particular technologically," said Chan Kwing-lam, a Hong Kong-based expert in solar physics, who will study data sent back by the orbiter.

Chan said the feat would help China catch up technologically with Japan, which launched its own orbiter in September.

Space arms race?

Beijing's space plans have faced increasing international scrutiny. Fears of a potential space arms race with the US and other powers have mounted since China blew up one of its own weather satellites with a ground-based missile in January.

Beijing has said that its intentions are peaceful. "China will not be involved in a Moon race with any other country and in any form," the chief commander of the orbiter project, Luan Enjie, told the country's official Xinhua news agency on Wednesday.

In 2003, China became only the third country - after the US and the Soviet Union - to launch a man into space aboard its own rocket. In October 2005, it sent two men into orbit, and it plans a spacewalk by 2008.

In 2008, the US and India are also planning to launch lunar orbiters.

Taken from: http://space.newscientist.com/article/dn12828-china-launches-lunar-orbiter-with-patriotic-zeal.html

You have to wonder WHY is EVERYONE heading for the moon ALL OF A SUDDEN?

Edit* So the only way we will know if Hoagland is correct is when another country, besides the United States actually lands on the moon... by 2012 China will find out if this is true... I guess we will have to wait and see... Keep an open mind!


Beez

 

[Guest]

China, the world's leading industrialized nation right now won't put man on moon for DECADES AFTER 2012!!!! Nope.....nothing to see here! Good post Beez.

 

[newbgrow]

So now you have completely abandoned your stance that NASA is not a defense department working with the U.S military?


Using your own words: It seems to me, [Nubie Biatch], you're only interested in arguing insignificant details and semantics while always moving targets, that way you never run out of things to say, or so it seems...

Looks like you were talking about yourself in that one

This is a funny one - please explain to me.

What does Chinese and Japanese space missions have to do with NASA? What part of the department of defense taking over military operations from NASA do you not understand?

And secondly, it seems you can't read names right. I'm newbgrow, not Nubie Biatch. Quit trolling, troll.

 

[Guest]

Personal agenda = private messages.

Topic = Dark Mission: Nasa's Dirty Little Secret

 

[newbgrow]

Speak for yourself.

 

[Pops]

Beez, just because I agreed that you might be correct on one small point doesn't mean that I am in love with you and want to have your children. I still think that you are a nut job. That is O.K., as you have the right to be as fruity as you want. My only question is what are you going to do when man gets back on the moon and finds nothing but rock? If there are no aliens around, is this going to shatter your world? I, for one, would think that it is marvelous if aliens were screwing with mankind and had been for centuries. If there were ruins on the moon,I would love to be one of the first team of anthropologists to examine them. Unfortunately, after the Defense Dept. got through, there would be nothing left, so I wont hold my breath.

 

[Pops]

I looked at the Japanese pictures and the only ruins I saw were an old gas station, 2 rusted pickups, and the remains of 2 liquor stores and 3 bars. This leads me to believe that the moon was not settled by aliens, but rather Kentuckian rednecks.

 

[Babombeez]

It seems we will not know much about these moon structures until someone actually takes pictures from the surface, some of lander/vehicle to explore.

You are nuts Pops, really. No one ever said anything about wanting to have children, only you would come up with something like that. I could care less if you agree with me, as I could definitely say some of the stuff you have told me over time is absolutely terrible. I am done arguing with you, and you know that. Only time will tell, so let me ask you POPS---- my only question is what are YOU GOING TO DO when man gets back to the Moon, and reveals to the world that there are remnants or actual civilizations up there. I would love to study them too, I mean man dude, do you know what that means???

To totally close the idea off and deem it absurd is irresponsible. We just DON'T KNOW, and it is POSSIBLE.

Beez

 

[Babombeez]

NASA = Department of Defense

Department of Defense = NASA

NASA lends a helping hand with ALL of it, and they lie. Period. It is a microcosm of the bigger picture here.

You seem very adamant about the idea that NASA has not been in on Department of Defense projects. And clearly they are violating their charter, where they say they are a "civilian agency," BULLSHIT!

In Dark Mission, Hoagland tells of a time when Johnston was working at JPL, and one day he was doing a news conference and someone within JPL/NASA, a very odd character, as he described, was handing out pamphlets with a reflective american flag inside saying the Moon landing was faked, that it was at a sound-stage in Nevada. Hoagland describes how this is the "moon landing conspiracy," which was carefully master-planned, was a total hoax meant to draw the attention from the real conspiracy, which was during the lunar landing Moon ruins were discovered, along with some type of machinery, and other items of interest. It strikes me that NASA handed these propaganda conspiracy pamphlets out to the press.

I had a conversation with some friends earlier about the recent California wildfires, and how it was rather strange and too coincidental that the fires all happened at the same time, all the way up and down the coast of California, which was said to be "arson" and all of this coincidentally happened pretty much exactly hear the time of the fires, and the news of China's moon probe, and Japan's moon mission...

Edit* also now that I think about it Hoagland and Bara released this book in October as well, this is waaaay all to coincidental.... Did you know that Hoagland just did some type of event at the National Press Club?

Why are they trying to cover things up, and distract the American public? This is the real conspiracy, there should be some investigating at least.

Beez

 

[Guest]

I was waiting for the California wildfire conspiracy..If I hadn't smoked erb for 30 years already you people would frighten me.

 

[Nubie Biatch]

it was rather strange and too coincidental that the fires all happened at the same time, all the way up and down the coast of California, which was said to be "arson" and all of this coincidentally happened pretty much exactly hear the time of the fires, and the news of China's moon probe, and Japan's moon mission...

...Why are they trying to cover things up, and distract the American public? This is the real conspiracy, there should be some investigating at least.

Beez

Someone is really grasping at straws now.

See how this flawed logic is a slippery slope down the IQ slide. Sure it's fun at first but once you pick up speed and start moving at these speeds it gets frightening. Not frightening for the person sliding quickly down, it's frightening for everyone standing witness to such a tragic and yet comical event.

 

[Guest]

And recently started smokers may assume its an affliction affecting all cannabis users...Not good for the goal of "everybody must get stoned".I'd honestly be concerned reading some of these rather strange ideas..On the other hand,if you can't see the correlation between the fires and China's and Japan's moon missions,you have to be blind hahahahah!

 

[trouble]

I had a conversation with some friends earlier about the recent California wildfires, and how it was rather strange and too coincidental that the fires all happened at the same time, all the way up and down the coast of California, which was said to be "arson" and all of this coincidentally happened pretty much exactly hear the time of the fires, and the news of China's moon probe, and Japan's moon mission...
Beez

Bezz, as you reach new heights of delusional thinking it's become obvious to all that you & your little friends are just plain crazy as hell. The Santa Ana Winds blow every year in California from October through March when the desert cools down. These strong wind cause vegetation to dry out increasing the chances of dangerous wild fires. These fires have been going on every year in time long before China or Japans Moon Mission was even a thought. Every year some are believed to be arson, accidents, and or, natural fires. To even think that the fires were started to take attenion away from someones Moon Mission shows how totally insane you really are.

Bezz, I really dont wish to come across as harsh and unjust towards you, however, other members and I are truely concerned about that state of your mental heath and feel strongly that you desperately need to seek professional help for your serious condition. They have med's today that could help you live a semi-normal life without all of that fear & paranoia.

Is your family aware of the seriousness of your condition? Do you have anyone thats willing to help you get into some type of Mental Hospital for help & treatment?


Good Luck and take action to deal with your sickness before it's to late and they come to haul you off in a straight-jacket.



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[Babombeez]

Bezz, as you reach new heights of delusional thinking it's become obvious to all that you & your little friends are just plain crazy as hell. The Santa Ana Winds blow every year in California from October through March when the desert cools down. These strong wind cause vegetation to dry out increasing the chances of dangerous wild fires. These fires have been going on every year in time long before China or Japans Moon Mission was even a thought. Every year some are believed to be arson, accidents, and or, natural fires. To even think that the fires were stared to take attenion away from someones Moon Mission shows how totally insane you really are.

Bezz, I really dont wish to come across as harsh and unjust towards you, however, other members and I are truely concerned about that state of your mental heath and feel strongly that you desperately need to seek professional help for your serious condition. They have med's today that could help you live a semi-normal life without all of that fear & paranoia.

Is your family aware of the seriousness of your condition? Do you have anyone thats willing to help you get into some type of Mental Hospital for help & treatment?


Good Luck and take action to deal with your sickness before it's to late and they come to haul you off in a straight-jacket.



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Shut your mouth. I will not respond to complete ignorance.

They literally "sold" that fire on the news, wake up. You are not welcome in this thread, I won't tolerate personal attacks.

be gone!

Beez

 

[Guest]

What does that mean exactly?They "sold" that fire on the news?I wonder if you'd have the balls to say that to a man that just lost his home or pet in the flames..It was a real tragedy for a whole lot of people,people that live in the real world not some ****in fantasy world of conspiracies and pat answers.

 

[Babombeez]

So I am just pointing out how these people are perfect examples of dodging the actual topic I was on about, which was about the faked moon landing pamphlets within NASA and JPL itself, to perpetuate a hoax and distract them from the real thing, which was a civilization was found on the moon... (or so Hoagland and Johnston say)... So, then I suggest the reason that we didn't hear about the moon probes from China and Japan was because of the fires taking over the news, they didn't really report anything but the fires, it was a State of Emergency! I am a California resident, I know about fires! BUT FIRES JUST DON'T HAPPEN ALL AT ONCE UP AND DOWN THE ENTIRE COAST! I was suggesting that it is possible for it to be arson, which they probably were, and it did a pretty damn good job of taking the attention off of international news. Realize that I am NOT stating this as absolute fact, I am just asking questions, something you fools seem not able to do... Consensus reality, believe what I'm told, sheep, baaaaaaaah.

Beez

 

[Babombeez]

What does that mean exactly?They "sold" that fire on the news?I wonder if you'd have the balls to say that to a man that just lost his home or pet in the flames..It was a real tragedy for a whole lot of people,people that live in the real world not some ****in fantasy world of conspiracies and pat answers.

I'd tell them straight to their face, don't give me this pity stuff, the fires were disastrous, don't put words in my mouth. You make it seem like what I have said completely disregards the destruction and loss people went through, but then again your "type" would do say something like that, and play the pity card.

Just because I question all these "coincidences," that makes me emotionally dead? or ignore the fact that millions of people were effected by these fires? No at all, I am just raising relevant questions, then you take my question out of context and use a red herring to distract from the real issue at hand.

Last response to you, bro

Beez

 

[Guest]

I understand now you just have to be a little more clear,it makes sense now.The arsonists and fires were actually deliberate decoys for what again??O yea,so we wouldnt find out Japan and China found the alien moonstation..You can call people fools and sheep all you want bro,it doesnt change the fact you sound like a lunatic.Note I didnt call you a lunatic but your beliefs point towards lunacy to say the least.