every single day in the USA, about 10,000 people turn 65. the number of older adults is going to double over the next few decades, resulting in over 88 million "elderly", or about 20 % of our population.
Criminal indictments coming for Trump.
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but... but... but...the rich REALLY wanted cuts, and the wars helped their portfolios...
those folks don't donate big $$$ to pols needing another house in Montana or Hawaii. they need to pony up to stay in the game...
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Nope, but they can vote.those folks don't donate big $$$ to pols needing another house in Montana or Hawaii. they need to pony up to stay in the game...
And as the control of capital in the US has shifted markedly toward those in the upper crust, who need it less, there's a LOT more of those working poor, retired, poor, and disabled in this Country, and most of them have voter ID cards, I'd wager.
Among them are the sleeping giants. The voters who rarely bother to go to the polls, until they're pissed off. Then they bother.
Wasn't that started by everybody's buddy, Bill Clinton? And by everybody's buddy I mean shitbag of a human being.
votes SHOULD cancel out donations, and i don't doubt that they do...up to a point. it really depends on the honesty/ethics of the politician involved, which is a scary thing to consider. sometimes voters don't hold onto their grudges long enough, and their memory slips...
no. politicians were robbing SS blind for a long time before Clinton ever entered politics...and why bring up The Chump?
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Social security has been raided by both parties over time. Indeed.
Like a drunken parent stealing from the family cookie jar cash stash, then unable to make ends meet, pretending it's the jar's fault, or someone else's, and saying, "I guess we'll have to move now; we're broke." and shrugging their shoulders as though they're not a part of the 'why'.
The full retirement age has changed for anyone born after 1960 to 67 years old. The ave lifespan in the USA is 74. You would only get 7 years of full benefits lol. PAying into your SS account for 65 years to onkly get 7 years of that back .. IT'S A SCAM!!.. The retirement age should be 50.
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I believe the steps in re. to percentage of full SS 'retirement pay' now are 62, then 67, then 70. Not sure though. I'm confident of the 62 and 67, and folks need to apply for Medicare if they're going to, -before- they turn 65; like even 6 months before.
The age for SS rose for a number of reasons, most of it, imo, involving Congress getting ready for the wave of baby boomers about to cross that line then. But also to do with what were rising ages of mortality; better/greater longevity.
That factor, however, is now headed back down.
For over 30 years, maybe 35, the USA has been sliding downward on the International 'quality of life' index. In my opinion, this can be traced to a number of factors, and more recently, COVID.
AARP has always had some limited political clout.
And you know what they say about pissing off old people, and especially the terminally ill? "They've been alive a lot longer, learned a lot more, are a lot cagier, and just don't give a fuck any more."
Sounds like the wrong people to drive past any serious point of irritation.
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62 is early retirement. you don't gert full beneifits.
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Yep, but they can go up to full benefits once you pass 67 or 70, even though you turned on the spigot at 62.
I checked into that, as my wife wants to retire at 62. The reduced rates are (for now, anyway) temporary until you reach what ever magic digits).
That was good to know. That it's not a permanent forfeiture of pay-out level.
The ceiling on earned income after beginning to collect SS can become a bit of a burden, too, however.
I don't know too many people up here who can live on $1,500 or $1,800/month, even with a pittance of extra cash income. Not without 'creativity'. (*That's where my life insurance and the cash value of our current paid-off home comes into play.. Buffers. everybody needs some).
The State of Alaska has a property tax exemption for those over age 65, providing it's deemed a primary residence, meaning you have to occupy the home. Any other domociles on the property are taxed at full millage rate, assuming there's property taxes there at all. Unorganized Boroughs (the remainder of the State, outside organized Boroughs), are without property taxes currently; for how long, who knows?
Combined exemptions between the State and the Borough comes to $200,000 after age 65.
We've toyed with unknowns that I don't want to inquire about directly, and risk having any notes added to a property file, such as, if I reach age 65, (not necessarily likely, for a number of reasons, but not far off), and I apply for that total exemption of $200,000 for a primary residence (of which we currently receive a $20,000 exemption), and I die before she's 65, does she have to notify the Borough of my demise, and do they go retroactive on her, and charge her the full value tax again, (which is over $300./month currently, and apt to climb for an energy rated 6-star home; not fancy, but WARM)? Or do they let it slide as she's still technically my spouse, and I'm still her husband, though dead before she reaches that magic age?
Unknowns that matter, if a senior is to maintain a home in this place.
Otherwise we're looking at semi-remote Island properties and remote nearby mainland stuff in SE Alaska, where there is no to little property tax at all. Including more remote villages/communities on Prince of Wales Island (where we've lived before), and/or a little town up an inlet on the mainland, population 60, with few services there, and most people going across the Border into Canada for banking, shopping, etc. (Hyder, Alaska and Stewart, B.C., off the lower end of the Stewart-Cassiar Hwy and on the salt water, where she could sail a small sail boat, fish and gather kelp for a garden and food, etc.; old hitch-hiking and driving grounds for me). Still some reasonable homes there for reasonable money, for obvious reasons.
Many seniors are not well suited to chopping wood, etc., so that figures in there, too.
Having lived the quasi-Bohemian lifefstyle, with scant anticipation of being alive for very long, with that outlook starting well over 25 years ago for me, sometimes leads to creative decisions toward coping methods for economic uncertainties for those left behind..
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i tell young pups all the time that "life in prison with no parole" doesn't mean the same thing to a 60 year old man versus a 30 year old man.
you mean state sponsored retirement home!i tell young pups all the time that "life in prison with no parole" doesn't mean the same thing to a 60 year old man versus a 30 year old man.
i'd probably get shot "resisting arrest"...
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My life insurance goes null and void if I die in the commission of a felony. I 've told many an asshole they should write my insurance under-writers and thank them for that condition in the policy. It's the microscopic reason several of them are still above ground.
Come to think of it, they ought to thank my wife, too. Same reasons.
is "resisting arrest" a felony? i guess if you are emptying a 12 gauge pump & a couple of pistols at them...huh. might ought to look into...nah, i don't HAVE any insurance. surprised me and everyone i know that i made it to 30...
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Depends on whether or not the cop says you spit on him/her during the arrest, while in a pandemic. That's felony assault up here. Peeing on them under those conditions is a felony, too.
Some theatrically-delivered or physically-demonstrated opinions can be more costly than others.
i guess "go fuck yourself!" is out of bounds too? how sensitive...
Depends on whether or not the cop says you spit on him/her during the arrest, while in a pandemic. That's felony assault up here. Peeing on them under those conditions is a felony, too.
Some theatrically-delivered or physically-demonstrated opinions can be more costly than others.
What I am hearing is: "If you are mad enough to spit, you should just use a gun."
Maybe I am missing something but I'm all ears...
I'm also obstinate.
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