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Hammerhead

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POTUS' probably keep folders for classifying documents around incase they need to throw something in one.

LOL, how's that Jizz taste McNoddle. No POTUS classified Doc. They do not have TOP Secret empty folders lying around. All of this shit you say is mind blowing. You are a shining example from a none intelligent MAGA head.


Good post.

I agree with the optics of imprisoning or even indicting a former president is kid of taboo, and makes the country look weak, so even if a president 'should' be dealt with harshly it's not really likely to happen.

There are different punishments for people of different standings in society, as much as it sucks, it just is how it is.

Even if it's proven beyond any doubt that 'someone' has done diabolical things, there's a pretty good chance that they get let off the hook because it would cause massive civil unrest to do otherwise.... so 'they' just decide to keep the peace the best way possible.

Us humans are pretty clever, but we're also just a mass of writhing idiots who act out in weird ways.

I mentioned a similar scenario.. MEGA rep cant control themselves. They truly believe Turd is their god. When a fanatic believes the shit Trump says they're all in on hurting others in his name.,.. IMO Trump is the Anti Christ if there is one.
 
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Hempy McNoodle

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LOL, how's that Jizz taste McNoddle. No POTUS clasify's Doc. They do not have TOP Secret empty folders lying around. All of this shit you say is mind blowing. You are a shining example from a none intelligent MAGA head.
A POTUS almost certainly would have empty classification folders to put documents into which need to be made classified.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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LOL, how's that Jizz taste McNoddle. No POTUS clasify's Doc. They do not have TOP Secret empty folders lying around. All of this shit you say is mind blowing. You are a shining example from a none intelligent MAGA head.
What's with the homophobic remark? Do you think the greatest insult is to call someone gay. If so, why?
 

Hammerhead

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What's with the homophobic remark? Do you think the greatest insult is to call someone gay. If so, why?

Its called a metaphor. People like you Suck up anything Trumps says. It's on par with your lack of understanding.

A POTUS almost certainly would have empty classification folders to put documents into which need to be made classified.

Only a sitting POTUS would have any doc like that. None would be empty, None would be at his home.. The only reason your here is you LOVE to spew MAGA hate You are truly clueless.
 

HempKat

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Why would he return the documents? Return to who? There is a huge paper trail of him declassifying the docs and remember that The CIA fought to stop these from being released like two years ago because they said it would be highly embarrising to our allies (which is an illegal reason to keep things classified.

If you are really interested in this subject, just start going through the Q posts. Q posted much of the paper trail that you deny exists. I even posted some of it the other day.

Again, there are several scenarios in which he can lawfully possess them prior to release.
I never said that all of the documents declassified during the Trump Administration lacked the paper trail a properly declassified document should have. Just the ones Trump took with him when he left the White House. Also there are no scenarios where it is legal for Trump to take and retain classified or declassified Top Secret documents declassified does not equal "free to take" regardless of their classification status all those documents were government property and Trump committed theft of government property when he took them. If the nonsense you are spouting here is an example of how well one can become familiar with the classification/declassification process by reading posts from Q. You've just unwittingly gave the most resounding reason why to completely ignore anything Q posts. As for why would Trump return the documents, you can ask Trump himself he returned 15 boxes of documents he shouldn't have had in his possession the first time NARA contact him about them over a year ago, then several months later he return another 12 or so boxes to try to satisfy a subpoena along with a false statement signed by his lawyers saying that was all of them. Then their informant in Trump's circle notified the FBI Trump was still in possession of classified documents which led to the raid where they recovered another 15 boxes. The question isn't why should Trump return stolen documents, the answer to that is obvious, to avoid being convicted of a crime. The question is why didn't he return all of them when given the chance at a time when the story was not in the media and Trump wasn't facing any charges. Had he done so it is almost certain that the story would have quietly died and Trump wouldn't be facing the gravest threat of indictment and prosecution that he has ever faced.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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Its called a metaphor. People like you Suck up anything Trumps says. It's on par with your lack of understanding.



Only a sitting POTUS would have any doc like that. None would be empty, None would be at his home.. The only reason your here is you LOVE to spew MAGA hate You are truly clueless.
Not true under these circumstances (stolen election - COG).
 

HempKat

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Censorship and Vaccine mandates, for starters...
Neither of which is proof of Fascism, especially the mandates that were never really mandates, nobody was forced to get a vaccine, everyone had the option to not get one as many chose not to do. Nobody was ever arrested for not getting a mandated vaccine which is what would have happened if a Fascist Regime mandated a vaccine. You seem to be operating under the delusion that anything you don't like or don't agree with is proof of Fascism.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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I never said that all of the documents declassified during the Trump Administration lacked the paper trail a properly declassified document should have. Just the ones Trump took with him when he left the White House. Also there are no scenarios where it is legal for Trump to take and retain classified or declassified Top Secret documents declassified does not equal "free to take" regardless of their classification status all those documents were government property and Trump committed theft of government property when he took them. If the nonsense you are spouting here is an example of how well one can become familiar with the classification/declassification process by reading posts from Q. You've just unwittingly gave the most resounding reason why to completely ignore anything Q posts. As for why would Trump return the documents, you can ask Trump himself he returned 15 boxes of documents he shouldn't have had in his possession the first time NARA contact him about them over a year ago, then several months later he return another 12 or so boxes to try to satisfy a subpoena along with a false statement signed by his lawyers saying that was all of them. Then their informant in Trump's circle notified the FBI Trump was still in possession of classified documents which led to the raid where they recovered another 15 boxes. The question isn't why should Trump return stolen documents, the answer to that is obvious, to avoid being convicted of a crime. The question is why didn't he return all of them when given the chance at a time when the story was not in the media and Trump wasn't facing any charges. Had he done so it is almost certain that the story would have quietly died and Trump wouldn't be facing the gravest threat of indictment and prosecution that he has ever faced.
You are simply wrong. There are scenarios in which a Commander in Chief may retain or manage certain documents. For example, if a foreign enemy interferes with an election and installs a person as a illegitimately 'seated' President. Mar-a-lago was fortified to run as a second 'emergency White House.' I covered this a bit in the Great Awakening thread. Remember when Trump took George Washingtons 'second' Presidential Seal? No, I wouldn't expect you to remember or understand any of that.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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Neither of which is proof of Fascism, especially the mandates that were never really mandates, nobody was forced to get a vaccine, everyone had the option to not get one as many chose not to do. Nobody was ever arrested for not getting a mandated vaccine which is what would have happened if a Fascist Regime mandated a vaccine. You seem to be operating under the delusion that anything you don't like or don't agree with is proof of Fascism.
Now do 'Censorship'...
 

HempKat

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he WON'T get them back. if there are any papers in there that are not govt property (pictures of Melania & Trudeau for example) he'll get to keep those. or if there really is correspondence with a real lawyer (not Bannon or other possible co-defendants) concerning legal matters unrelated to his "presidency", he'll likely get those too. nothing else unless one of his kids or flunkies is appointed as the special master. not much his hand-picked judge can do for him now but to delay the inevitable for a few days...
The funny thing that few if any are realizing, if this "Special Master" identifies any of the documents being covered by executive privilege it will just make it into proof Trump did in fact commit at least one of the crimes his being charged with which is theft and unlawful retention of Presidential Records being the any document covered by Executive privilege is by definition a Presidential record/document that is the property of the US government.
 

HempKat

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Good post.

I agree with the optics of imprisoning or even indicting a former president is kid of taboo, and makes the country look weak, so even if a president 'should' be dealt with harshly it's not really likely to happen.

There are different punishments for people of different standings in society, as much as it sucks, it just is how it is.

Even if it's proven beyond any doubt that 'someone' has done diabolical things, there's a pretty good chance that they get let off the hook because it would cause massive civil unrest to do otherwise.... so 'they' just decide to keep the peace the best way possible.

Us humans are pretty clever, but we're also just a mass of writhing idiots who act out in weird ways.
You know what looks as bad or worse then appearing weak? It's proclaiming that your government is a rule of law based government but then you treat someone as being above the law. Does all this make the country look bad? Of course it does, but unfortunately there is no way this whole mess plays out where there is no negative ramifications to the US image on the world stage.
 
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Hempy McNoodle

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The funny thing that few if any are realizing, if this "Special Master" identifies any of the documents being covered by executive privilege it will just make it into proof Trump did in fact commit at least one of the crimes his being charged with which is theft and unlawful retention of Presidential Records being the any document covered by Executive privilege is by definition a Presidential record/document that is the property of the US government.
Unless, the election was tampered with and an illigitimate biligerant enemy became seated as POTUS. I do wish your "news" sources would do a better job informing you. They seem to want you to remain 'small-minded.'

Seems like every time you state something as 'the only possibility,' you routinely overlook all of the many other probabilities.
 

bigtacofarmer

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You know what looks as bad or worse then appearing weak? It's proclaim that your government is a rule of law based government but then you treat someone as being above the law. Does all this make the country look bad? Of course it does, but unfortunately there is no way this whole mess plays out where there is no negative ramifications to the US image on the world stage.
They already seen us elect a moron in orange make up. Our image can only improve after that.
 

bigtacofarmer

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Unless, the election was tampered with and an illigitimate biligerant enemy became seated as POTUS. I do wish your "news" sources would do a better job informing you. They seem to want you to remain 'small-minded.'

Seems like every time you state something as 'the only possibility,' you routinely overlook all of the many other probabilities.
Obviously instead of ever taking any news just for what it is you automatically assume the conspiracy theory has to be true. Maybe if you ever let a little reality into your life and pick your favorite 5% of all conspiracies to believe in and advocate for instead of every last one of them. Maybe some parts of what you say would be looked at as more thar humorous nonsense rambling.
 

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Corporations are fascist. The United States is a Corpocracy.

It’s like nobody wants to accept this. It’s better to close your eyes and vote red or blue…and pretend you are anything more than the help.

Your straw men names on your birth certificates are in ALL CAPS which indicates a legal binding contract.

We are born into this. Contracted for life. No freedom of choice.
You need a treehouse.
 

HempKat

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You are simply wrong. There are scenarios in which a Commander in Chief may retain or manage certain documents. For example, if a foreign enemy interferes with an election and installs a person as a illegitimately 'seated' President. Mar-a-lago was fortified to run as a second 'emergency White House.' I covered this a bit in the Great Awakening thread. Remember when Trump took George Washingtons 'second' Presidential Seal? No, I wouldn't expect you to remember or understand any of that.
The very simple fact you are either incapable of grasping or are willfully denying is that when Trump left the White House with his cache of stolen government documents he was by every definition of the law no longer President, no longer Commander In Chief and therefore no longer legally able to take or keep the records he stole. Biden was the elected winner of the 2020 Presidential election, there has been no evidence to support anything different. The votes of a majority of US citizens says Biden is now the Legitimate 46th President of the United States. The Electoral College also supports that Biden is the Legitimate 46th President of the United States, Congress has certified that the Electoral College results that establishes that Biden is the Legitimate 46th President of the United states. Talk about all the what ifs that you want but absent any proof of these what if's Biden is the Legitimate 46th President of the United States.
 
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