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Criminal indictments coming for Trump.

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Hempy McNoodle

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Yeah except Biden limited his labelling of Fascism to just a specific subset of Republicans (MAGAs) rather then the People or Republicans in general. Plus back in 2020 when Trump did the exact same thing he labelled Democrats in General as Fascists instead of limiting it to just a specific subset of Democrats who acted in a Fascist way.
Watching the video, he clearly said, "some of them, not all of them."
 

med4u

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You act as if they only found empty folders when in fact they found over 700 pages of classified documents. The purpose of the picture wasn't to say "here's proof that Trump stole classified documents" It was to demonstrate that even an idiot at a glance could tell that within those boxes there were items Trump had no right to possess. You seem to think some how that because the pictures didn't show the classified documents themselves it means they weren't there. The reality is that had those pictures actually showed the classified documents, those pictures would never have been released because that would be revealing highly classified information.
How many classified cover sheets do you
Think the FBI has? Just cuz they threw some shit on the floor and put a cover on it dont mean shit
The Supreme Court determined in its 1988 decision on Department of the Navy v. Egan that the president’s power over classified information comes from executive authority granted by Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, which says, in part, that the “President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States.”

“His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant,” the Supreme Court decision reads.

Though there aren’t specific protocols that the president must follow to declassify a document, federal courts have ruled that they will “refuse to recognize what they consider to be an inference of declassification,” McClanahan said.

The U.S. Second Circuit Court of Appeals wrote in a 2020 decision about whether statements made by then-President Trump declassified the existence of a CIA program that “declassification, even by the president, must follow established procedures.”

If a document is declassified, that doesn’t automatically mean it can be shared widely, either. For example, nuclear information – which is generally classified – is also protected by the federal Atomic Energy Act of 1954, McClanahan explained.

The Washington Post reported the FBI searched Mar-a-Lago for “nuclear documents,” among other classified information.

“Because [nuclear information] has this dual protection, even if you declassify a nuclear document, you cannot disseminate it because it’s still what’s called Restricted Data,” McClanahan said.

“So to the extent that he [Trump] had any nuclear information in there, declassification would not help him in the slightest, because he would still be disseminating restricted data or moving Restricted Data,” he added.

There are other federal laws in place that bar a president from taking government records, whether they are classified or declassified. Still, breaking those laws – or most other laws – doesn’t automatically disqualify someone from becoming president, because of the simple presidential qualifications that are outlined in the U.S. Constitution.
 

mean mr.mustard

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Moose eater - if you aren't in Trump's army then you are against them.

It's unbelievable how far they can go to bury their heads in the sand.

Med4u - I'm really liking the Lionel Hutz thing you are doing please don't stop.
 

St. Phatty

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If the Dems are stupid enough to run Biden, I will not be surprised to see Trump end up back at 1600 Penn Ave.

Sen. Graham Quoth:


Perhaps American "culture" has reached the point where a Dem admin tarring a Repug like Trump - EARNS HIM POINTS in Repug. culture - and increases voter turn-out.

if Trump is on the ballot in 2024, I think turn-out will be very high.

But not high enough ! Anybody else want to hand out Spliffs at their local voting place ?
 

med4u

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Hammerhead

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I know you’ll miss me…but perhaps…in a year I’ll drop back into this thread and see there are still no indictments. No crimes. No punishments.

The only point of this thread is to keep insults flowing…feed the need for your own drama. Right Left Red Blue Coke Pepsi. And you started it.

Why the hell people take this shit serious is beyond reasoning. You can’t even fuck with people in the speakers corner without someone crying to mods. It’s so serious to be shit posting in a shit posting section of a pothead forum. Your opinions and views so priceless and important….and moderated so safely.

The sky is always falling and you will always be under it…doing nothing but arguing

This is what you want. This is what you get. Just enjoy.

Thank you for your time. Don’t forget to vote. Blue or Red.

It’s pretty dumbed down. Go figure


Na, it's way easier to just ignore the ignorant.
 

Hammerhead

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That's not how the Supreme Court works, Hammerhead. You are asking them to be legislators. It may be possible to legislate it nationally, but that's up to the legislature and they don't seem to be bringing it into action.

It only looks that way to ignorant people. It's about all women's right to choose. Nothing more. People like you would also prevent women from voting. I'm 100% educated on how our SC works Champ. It's clear you "few" have no clue. You just vomit the same Turd nonsense waiting to eat that up.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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How many classified cover sheets do you
Think the FBI has? Just cuz they threw some shit on the floor and put a cover on it dont mean shit
The Supreme Court determined in its 1988 decision on Department of the Navy v. Egan that the president’s power over classified information comes from executive authority granted by Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, which says, in part, that the “President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States.”

“His authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security and to determine whether an individual is sufficiently trustworthy to occupy a position in the Executive Branch that will give that person access to such information flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President, and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant,” the Supreme Court decision reads.

Though there aren’t specific protocols that the president must follow to declassify a document, federal courts have ruled that they will “refuse to recognize what they consider to be an inference of declassification,” McClanahan said.

The U.S. Second Circuit Court of Appeals wrote in a 2020 decision about whether statements made by then-President Trump declassified the existence of a CIA program that “declassification, even by the president, must follow established procedures.”

If a document is declassified, that doesn’t automatically mean it can be shared widely, either. For example, nuclear information – which is generally classified – is also protected by the federal Atomic Energy Act of 1954, McClanahan explained.

The Washington Post reported the FBI searched Mar-a-Lago for “nuclear documents,” among other classified information.

“Because [nuclear information] has this dual protection, even if you declassify a nuclear document, you cannot disseminate it because it’s still what’s called Restricted Data,” McClanahan said.

“So to the extent that he [Trump] had any nuclear information in there, declassification would not help him in the slightest, because he would still be disseminating restricted data or moving Restricted Data,” he added.

There are other federal laws in place that bar a president from taking government records, whether they are classified or declassified. Still, breaking those laws – or most other laws – doesn’t automatically disqualify someone from becoming president, because of the simple presidential qualifications that are outlined in the U.S. Constitution.
Why aren't the MSM / FakeNews providing this information to their viewers/readers? Are they trying to promote stochastic terrorism? Misinform their viewers? Why would they want people to be misinformed?

Does the truth hurt (them)?
 

mean mr.mustard

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Maybe they are aware that telling certain people the truth won't matter if those people are in willful denial and turbo post a ton of spin and doublespeak in a scramble to justify it?

The US Constitution is available for perusal, but perhaps the MSM needs to be sure it gets out.

Truth shouldn't hurt.

Trump isn't president, the election was not rigged, and the MAGA crowd has already proven that they are violent.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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Maybe they are aware that telling certain people the truth won't matter if those people are in willful denial and turbo post a ton of spin and doublespeak in a scramble to justify it?

The US Constitution is available for perusal, but perhaps the MSM needs to be sure it gets out.

Truth shouldn't hurt.

Trump isn't president, the election was not rigged, and the MAGA crowd has already proven that they are violent.
This^ reply doesn't make much sense and is rather incoherent. The last sentence is false.
 
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