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Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

  • yes, gimme

    Votes: 29 31.9%
  • not yet

    Votes: 15 16.5%
  • no way

    Votes: 47 51.6%

  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
In the Netherlands our government says everytime the jabs are safe, but our Dutch VAERS reports everytime a new side effect.
 

h.h.

Active member
Veteran
I have not argued anywhere that Pfizer or any other pharma company is ethical. All I have said is that those 2 articles posted from natural news are bullshit, which they are. Your response is to say that Pfizer isn't ethical?
Then you add some anecdotes from Facebook?

My government puts out weekly reports on adverse reactions and deaths related to the 2 vaccines we have here, AZ and Pfizer. Initially there were deaths from AZ, but those below age 60 were then given Pfizer and there have been no deaths so far from Pfizer. Please read the link below if you are going to reply to fully understand it.

Large scale vaccination means that coincidentally some people will experience a new illness or die within a few days or weeks of vaccination.

The TGA reviews all deaths reported in people who have received the vaccination. We also monitor reports for signals that may relate to vaccine safety to distinguish between coincidental events and possible side effects of the vaccine. As the number of vaccinated people has increased, so has reporting of fatal events with a coincidental association with vaccination. This does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccines played a role in these deaths.

https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-09-09-2021

It’s always those other guys who aren’t ethical. Pfizer is only a concept. It’s actually comprised of several humans not much different than we are. They’ve actually saved many lives. Few here can make that claim. We smoke dope and speak of their evilness. It makes us sound important and in the know, while we don’t do a fucking thing.
 

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
Veteran
....snicker...
HUGE: Uttar Pradesh, India Announces State Is COVID-19 Free Proving the Effectiveness of “Deworming Drug” IVERMECTIN


By Jim Hoft
Published September 15, 2021 at 7:30am



1CBA5BE6-CDC4-427D-847B-938C1BF8D816-scaled.jpeg

The Gateway Pundit previously reported that COVID cases are plummeting in India thanks to new rules that promote Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to its massive population. The 33 districts in Uttar Pradesh, India have now become free from COVID-19 government informed on Friday. The recovery rate has increased up to 98.7% proving the effectiveness of IVERMECTIN as part of the “Uttar Pradesh Covid Control Model.”
This state has an estimated population of 241 million people in 2021 and has the highest population in India. This is almost two-thirds of the United States population in 2021 and yet it is now a COVID-19 free nation.
So what could the United States be doing wrong? Let’s ask Dr. Fauci.
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Hindustan Times reported on this big development:
Overall, the state has a total of 199 active cases, while the positivity rate came down to less than 0.01 per cent. The recovery rate, meanwhile, has improved to 98.7 per cent. As per the state’s health bulletin, Uttar Pradesh reported only 11 new Covid-19 cases and zero deaths in the last 24 hours.​

India Today also reported on this last August 31:
The active caseload in Uttar Pradesh is down to 269, while the percentage of active cases against the total confirmed cases is 0 per cent.
The active caseload, which was at a high of 3,10,783 in April, has reduced by over 99 per cent.
Fresh Covid-19 cases in the state have remained below 100 for 50 consecutive days.
Of the 1,87,638 samples tested in the last 24 hours, 21 tested positive. In the same period, another 17 patients recovered from the infection, adding to the recovery of over 16,86,182 people so far. (These numbers are in lakh so the comma placement is different in the US. 187 lakh is the same as 18.7 million)​
Uttar Pradesh is the leading state in India to use Ivermectin as early and preventatively in all family contacts. And this state is one of the five lowest COVID cases of all states in India despite having only a low vaccination rate of 5.8% fully vaccinated.
Here’s a little background on the use of Ivermectin in UP, The Indian Express reported:
“Uttar Pradesh was the first state in the country to introduce large-scale prophylactic and therapeutic use of Ivermectin. In May-June 2020, a team at Agra, led by Dr. Anshul Pareek, administered Ivermectin to all RRT team members in the district on an experimental basis. It was observed that none of them developed Covid-19 despite being in daily contact with patients who had tested positive for the virus,” Uttar Pradesh State Surveillance Officer Vikssendu Agrawal said.
He added that based on the findings from Agra, the state government sanctioned the use of Ivermectin as a prophylactic for all the contacts of Covid patients and later cleared the administration of therapeutic doses for the treatment of such patients.
Claiming that timely introduction of Ivermectin since the first wave has helped the state maintain a relatively low positivity rate despite its high population density, he said, “Despite being the state with the largest population base and a high population density, we have maintained a relatively low positivity rate and cases per million of population”.
He said that apart from aggressive contact tracing and surveillance, the lower positivity and fatality rates may be attributed to the large-scale use of Ivermectin use in the state, adding that the drug has recently been introduced in the National Protocol for Covid treatment and management. “Once the second wave subsides, we would conduct our own study as there has been an emerging body of evidence to substantiate our timely use of Ivermectin from the first wave itself,” Vikasendu told The Indian Express.”​
Both Uttar Pradesh and Delhi have seen an incredible drop in COVID-19 cases because they use Ivermectin early and preventatively. Whereas Kerala, a tiny state located in southern India that is over-dependent on vaccines and less dependent on Ivermectin, has been reporting a significant increase in COVID-19 cases. Keep in mind that Uttar Pradesh has eight times larger population than Kerala.
27556584-1970-4C2A-87D5-DC9F25C9AA45-scaled.jpeg


More information on Kerala’s COVID- 19 cases on The Desert Review:
“While Kerala included Ivermectin in their state’s guideline in April, they restricted it’s use to only in Class B – severe cases or those with associated disease, making its use much less than if mild cases were allowed. This meant it was reserved as a late treatment if used at all.
Finally, Kerala abandoned Ivermectin use altogether on August 5, 2021.
Juan Chamie, the Cambridge-based data analyst who has provided graphical insight and published on COVID, provided his answer to why Kerala’s COVID cases have spun out of control.
“My main current explanation is the lack of early treatment. Kerala’s COVID protocol from April 2021 included Ivermectin, but not as an early treatment. As a result, only a small group qualified, those in Category B patients having high-risk factors. The new protocol from August 5 is even worse. They removed Ivermectin (completely).”
Despite a widespread attempt by the media and WHO to convince the world that India has dropped Ivermectin by citing the DGHS, the ICMR and AIIMS have not changed their position, and Ivermectin remains in the India National Protocol.”​
Of course, the WHO, pharmaceutical companies, fake news media, and Fauci are not happy with this big development. New York Times will have a meltdown with this news.

starting to rain...
 

Chi13

Well-known member
ICMag Donor
Lol, Trich. Uttar Pradesh has administered the vaccine at the fastest rate in India. Maybe that has something to do with it. btw a crore = 10 million. About the only thing you are exposing is the lying media you keep linking.

New Delhi: The Centre on Friday (September 10, 2021) informed that the Yogi Adityanath-led Uttar Pradesh government is administering average daily COVID-19 doses at a faster pace than the whole United States in the month of September. MyGovIndia, a citizen engagement platform of the Government of India, stated that UP on average is administering over 11 crore coronavirus doses daily as compared to the US, which is administering around 8 crore doses.

So far, around 7 crore people in Uttar Pradesh have taken at least one dose of vaccine, whereas, the COVID-19 vaccination coverage in the state has exceeded 8.47 crores.
https://zeenews.india.com/india/utta...s-2392910.html

And from earlier in the year, about Uttar Pradesh vaccines. Some exerts. Enjoy.
Curbing vaccine hesitancy, the state has successfully vaccinated more than 1.80 crore people. Both Covishield and Covaxin are available in all 75 districts which in itself is an achievement considering reports of vaccine shortages in various states. As a part of its measures to protect children from the third covid wave, parents having children less than 12 years of age are being given special discounts as an incentive to get inoculated. This will serve dual purpose; not only will it encourage people to get vaccinated but also provide an additional protection to children who are not yet eligible to take the Covid-19 vaccine.

By educating the public about the importance of vaccination and disease prevention, Adityanath has left no stone unturned in restricting the virus.

The goal is to protect children from the ghastly virus as they remain vulnerable on account of not having been vaccinated.
https://www.dailypioneer.com/2021/co...adesh-way.html
 
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h.h.

Active member
Veteran
....snicker...
HUGE: Uttar Pradesh, India Announces State Is COVID-19 Free Proving the Effectiveness of “Deworming Drug” IVERMECTIN


By Jim Hoft
Published September 15, 2021 at 7:30am



1CBA5BE6-CDC4-427D-847B-938C1BF8D816-scaled.jpeg

The Gateway Pundit previously reported that COVID cases are plummeting in India thanks to new rules that promote Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to its massive population. The 33 districts in Uttar Pradesh, India have now become free from COVID-19 government informed on Friday. The recovery rate has increased up to 98.7% proving the effectiveness of IVERMECTIN as part of the “Uttar Pradesh Covid Control Model.”
This state has an estimated population of 241 million people in 2021 and has the highest population in India. This is almost two-thirds of the United States population in 2021 and yet it is now a COVID-19 free nation.
So what could the United States be doing wrong? Let’s ask Dr. Fauci.
TRENDING: BREAKING: Gavin Newsom Will Remain Governor in Golden State as Californians Opt for Decline
Hindustan Times reported on this big development:
Overall, the state has a total of 199 active cases, while the positivity rate came down to less than 0.01 per cent. The recovery rate, meanwhile, has improved to 98.7 per cent. As per the state’s health bulletin, Uttar Pradesh reported only 11 new Covid-19 cases and zero deaths in the last 24 hours.​

India Today also reported on this last August 31:
The active caseload in Uttar Pradesh is down to 269, while the percentage of active cases against the total confirmed cases is 0 per cent.
The active caseload, which was at a high of 3,10,783 in April, has reduced by over 99 per cent.
Fresh Covid-19 cases in the state have remained below 100 for 50 consecutive days.
Of the 1,87,638 samples tested in the last 24 hours, 21 tested positive. In the same period, another 17 patients recovered from the infection, adding to the recovery of over 16,86,182 people so far. (These numbers are in lakh so the comma placement is different in the US. 187 lakh is the same as 18.7 million)​
Uttar Pradesh is the leading state in India to use Ivermectin as early and preventatively in all family contacts. And this state is one of the five lowest COVID cases of all states in India despite having only a low vaccination rate of 5.8% fully vaccinated.
Here’s a little background on the use of Ivermectin in UP, The Indian Express reported:
“Uttar Pradesh was the first state in the country to introduce large-scale prophylactic and therapeutic use of Ivermectin. In May-June 2020, a team at Agra, led by Dr. Anshul Pareek, administered Ivermectin to all RRT team members in the district on an experimental basis. It was observed that none of them developed Covid-19 despite being in daily contact with patients who had tested positive for the virus,” Uttar Pradesh State Surveillance Officer Vikssendu Agrawal said.
He added that based on the findings from Agra, the state government sanctioned the use of Ivermectin as a prophylactic for all the contacts of Covid patients and later cleared the administration of therapeutic doses for the treatment of such patients.
Claiming that timely introduction of Ivermectin since the first wave has helped the state maintain a relatively low positivity rate despite its high population density, he said, “Despite being the state with the largest population base and a high population density, we have maintained a relatively low positivity rate and cases per million of population”.
He said that apart from aggressive contact tracing and surveillance, the lower positivity and fatality rates may be attributed to the large-scale use of Ivermectin use in the state, adding that the drug has recently been introduced in the National Protocol for Covid treatment and management. “Once the second wave subsides, we would conduct our own study as there has been an emerging body of evidence to substantiate our timely use of Ivermectin from the first wave itself,” Vikasendu told The Indian Express.”​
Both Uttar Pradesh and Delhi have seen an incredible drop in COVID-19 cases because they use Ivermectin early and preventatively. Whereas Kerala, a tiny state located in southern India that is over-dependent on vaccines and less dependent on Ivermectin, has been reporting a significant increase in COVID-19 cases. Keep in mind that Uttar Pradesh has eight times larger population than Kerala.
27556584-1970-4C2A-87D5-DC9F25C9AA45-scaled.jpeg


More information on Kerala’s COVID- 19 cases on The Desert Review:
“While Kerala included Ivermectin in their state’s guideline in April, they restricted it’s use to only in Class B – severe cases or those with associated disease, making its use much less than if mild cases were allowed. This meant it was reserved as a late treatment if used at all.
Finally, Kerala abandoned Ivermectin use altogether on August 5, 2021.
Juan Chamie, the Cambridge-based data analyst who has provided graphical insight and published on COVID, provided his answer to why Kerala’s COVID cases have spun out of control.
“My main current explanation is the lack of early treatment. Kerala’s COVID protocol from April 2021 included Ivermectin, but not as an early treatment. As a result, only a small group qualified, those in Category B patients having high-risk factors. The new protocol from August 5 is even worse. They removed Ivermectin (completely).”
Despite a widespread attempt by the media and WHO to convince the world that India has dropped Ivermectin by citing the DGHS, the ICMR and AIIMS have not changed their position, and Ivermectin remains in the India National Protocol.”​
Of course, the WHO, pharmaceutical companies, fake news media, and Fauci are not happy with this big development. New York Times will have a meltdown with this news.

starting to rain...

What’s the point in cutting and pasting bullshit?
 

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
Veteran
what's the point in gangstalking and trying to silence an opposing opinion?
whatever happened to 'diversity'???especially of opinion?
trying to shine a turd? lol

swing and a miss....

Safe & Effective? 54% of Hospitalized Ireland COVID-19 Patients Are Fully Vaccinated, 98% Received At Least One Dose

Time for another case study for the “safe and effective” experimental COVID-19 injections.
This round goes to Ireland.
The Emerald Isle is among Europe’s most COVID-19 vaccinated countries.
According to Our World in Data, Ireland reports these vaccination rates:
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-70.9% fully vaccinated
-74.9% at least partially vaccinated
If we compare vaccination rates across Europe, Ireland ranks #6.

Now, let’s compare Ireland’s COVID-19 cases/deaths in 2020 to 2021.
According to Worldometer:
Peak August 2020 Cases (No Injection) = 196 on August 15th, 2020
Peak August 2021 Cases (With Injection) = 2,050 on August 21st, 2020
Total August 2020 Deaths (No Injection) = 9
Total August 2021 Deaths (With Injection) = 57
Mainstream media could no longer hide the truth that the majority of COVID-19 patients are vaccinated individuals.
By the end of August, over 50% of hospitalized COVID-19 patients in Ireland were fully vaccinated.
Check it out:
Ireland: 54% of hospital patients with C19 are fully vaccinated. " At the end of August, 54% of C19 patients – or 168 patients – were fully vaccinated. Some 44% were not fully vaccinated, and in 2%, the vaccination status was unknown"https://t.co/ZDeOFYv7by

— Andrew Bostom, MD, MS (@andrewbostom) September 11, 2021
DUBLIN
Health officials confirmed that the majority of Covid-19 cases in Irish hospitals are now vaccinated.https://t.co/4x93E1k4Pa
— Edinburgh Lothian & Borders Lockdown Sceptics (@BordersAgainst) September 14, 2021

If you are double jabbed and having a booster,you will probably end up in hospital.
54 percent of hospital patients in Ireland are fully vaccinatedhttps://t.co/4x93E1k4Pa
— Edinburgh Lothian & Borders Lockdown Sceptics (@BordersAgainst) September 14, 2021
Ireland: 54% of Hospital Patients With Covid Are Fully Vaccinated https://t.co/lJneX5wmOr
— 𝐒𝐌𝐈𝐓𝐇 (@Smithoocoo) September 13, 2021
Ireland: End of Aug2021 Stats:

Total Hospitalised C19 patients: 311
Fully vaccinated (14 days post 2nd jab): 168 (54%)
Partially vaccinated (received 1 jab or 2nd jab < 14 days ago): 136 (44%)
Vax status unknown: 7 (2%)#VaxFail https://t.co/4feZgBIflC
CC: @CraigKellyMP
— 🎗⏳The Solitary Reaper🕉🍀🇮🇳🇦🇺#FreeAssangeNOW (@YonSolitary) September 12, 2021

Pay attention to that last tweet.
98% of hospitalized COVID-19 patients received at least one dose.
And they call this a “safe & effective” vaccine?

From The Irish Times:
About half of all Covid-19 patients in hospital and in intensive care are fully vaccinated against the disease, new figures show.
One-sixth of deaths of people with the virus since April have been categorised as breakthrough infections of fully vaccinated patients, according to Health Service Executive data.
More than one-quarter of ICU admissions since July were also breakthrough infections of fully vaccinated people.
The proportion of vaccinated people requiring treatment in hospital has been increasing over recent months, as the number of vaccinated people in the wider population has risen.
Vaccination has drastically reduced the overall number of infections and reduced the severity of infections where they occur. However, the number of breakthrough infections has increased as the population of vaccinated people has grown.
At the end of August, 54 per cent of Covid-19 patients – or 168 patients – were fully vaccinated. Some 44 per cent were not fully vaccinated, and in 2 per cent of cases, the vaccination status was unknown.
While the mainstream media had to admit hospitals are filling up with vaccinated patients, this piece still has falsehoods.

After comparing August 2020 & August 2021 (peak summer), the total number and severity of infections has not decreased.
In fact, 2021 is far worse than 2020.
Ireland’s peak outbreak was January 2021.
If August 2021 is any indicator, January 2022 will be a disaster.

And that’s not including potential boosters.

Previous studies indicated the experimental jabs weaken your natural immune system by destroying T cells.
Pfizer vaccine destroys T cells, weakens the immune system – study – Dr. Eddy Bettermann MD https://t.co/FGk9gzEG7f
— Mel Sabek (@manyhopes) August 31, 2021
https://t.co/4E9vfXZTos. Yet these studies get ignored and the solution let's give you some more 💉💉☠️☠️☠️
— Jen (@Jen70717630) September 12, 2021
With a large percentage of the population now having a weakened immune system, this could be a dark winter humanity has never witnessed before.
That includes Ireland and other highly vaccinated countries.
 

armedoldhippy

Well-known member
Veteran
What’s the point in cutting and pasting bullshit?

to take up as much space as possible, hoping the thread will be killed. he knows nobody reads all that bullshit. did you see the bit about "first Durham indictment linked to Clintons"? you reckon they found her e-mails? LOL! news says "Durham WANTING an attorney belonging to DC group indicted." his law firm represented Hillary's campaign. how DARE he associate with such as her! lol...i always heard that a DA could have a ham sandwich indicted, maybe it's true...
 

Chi13

Well-known member
ICMag Donor
what's the point in gangstalking and trying to silence an opposing opinion?
whatever happened to 'diversity'???especially of opinion?
trying to shine a turd? lol

swing and a miss....
I would like nothing better than a debate of opposing opinions.
What we get from you is the most biased bullshit available on the net.
You just posted an article on the use of ivermectin in Uttar Pradesh, claiming it was the reason for low covid rates, but fails to metion that area is the most vaccinated area in India. It's fucking lying, agenda driven bullshit from you again.
 

imiubu

Well-known member
Opposing opinions stating the same ole same. Both thinking indignantly that they are the only ones that are "right". lmao
Personally, I'm not going to suddenly change my mind, especially when the same ole msm rhetoric is being spewed, shrug.

For me... to answer the OP... NOPE... that's a big fat NO from this old gal.
NOT being c-19 vaxxed won't be one of my worst choices... of that I am certain. Youth has it's way of causing poor choices.
I am now edging into old(er) age and experience alone has taught me to not get on board w/ this particular non vaccine... but rather to trust myself and my ability to discern BS.

I'll not tread upon other persons choices as to how to manage their health.
Do not tread upon me and mine. thx.
 

Gry

Well-known member
Veteran
Opposing opinions stating the same ole same. Both thinking indignantly that they are the only ones that are "right". lmao
Personally, I'm not going to suddenly change my mind, especially when the same ole msm rhetoric is being spewed, shrug.

For me... to answer the OP... NOPE... that's a big fat NO from this old gal.
NOT being c-19 vaxxed won't be one of my worst choices... of that I am certain. Youth has it's way of causing poor choices.
I am now edging into old(er) age and experience alone has taught me to not get on board w/ this particular non vaccine... but rather to trust myself and my ability to discern BS.

I'll not tread upon other persons choices as to how to manage their health.
Do not tread upon me and mine. thx.
Do not tread on me was historically used by slavers to defend an indefensible position.
 

Gry

Well-known member
Veteran
....snicker...
HUGE: Uttar Pradesh, India Announces State Is COVID-19 Free Proving the Effectiveness of “Deworming Drug” IVERMECTIN


By Jim Hoft
Published September 15, 2021 at 7:30am



1CBA5BE6-CDC4-427D-847B-938C1BF8D816-scaled.jpeg

The Gateway Pundit previously reported that COVID cases are plummeting in India thanks to new rules that promote Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to its massive population. The 33 districts in Uttar Pradesh, India have now become free from COVID-19 government informed on Friday. The recovery rate has increased up to 98.7% proving the effectiveness of IVERMECTIN as part of the “Uttar Pradesh Covid Control Model.”

:As India’s Lethal Covid Wave Neared, Politics Overrode Science
The country’s top science agency tailored its findings to fit Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s optimistic narrative despite a looming crisis, researchers say. Sept. 14, 2021
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/14/w...=pocket-newtab
Snickering, strikes me as inappropriate given the overall loss of life involved.
 

armedoldhippy

Well-known member
Veteran
In the Netherlands our government says everytime the jabs are safe, but our Dutch VAERS reports everytime a new side effect.

VAERS are reports, not conclusions, and nobody but the gullible predisposed see causation from mere reports without evidence. "i shit my pants on the way home after eating at Taco Hell. i got my first shot that morning, and i think the vaccine causes incontinence..."
 

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
Veteran
....snicker...
HUGE: Uttar Pradesh, India Announces State Is COVID-19 Free Proving the Effectiveness of “Deworming Drug” IVERMECTIN


By Jim Hoft
Published September 15, 2021 at 7:30am



1CBA5BE6-CDC4-427D-847B-938C1BF8D816-scaled.jpeg

The Gateway Pundit previously reported that COVID cases are plummeting in India thanks to new rules that promote Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to its massive population. The 33 districts in Uttar Pradesh, India have now become free from COVID-19 government informed on Friday. The recovery rate has increased up to 98.7% proving the effectiveness of IVERMECTIN as part of the “Uttar Pradesh Covid Control Model.”

:As India’s Lethal Covid Wave Neared, Politics Overrode Science
The country’s top science agency tailored its findings to fit Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s optimistic narrative despite a looming crisis, researchers say. Sept. 14, 2021
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/14/w...=pocket-newtab
Snickering, strikes me as inappropriate given the overall loss of life involved.

guffaw then.

News-channel fishing for stories of unvaccinated dying from Covid-19 gets over 182,000 responses of Vaccine injuries and deaths instead… and the list is still growing

Now WXYZ TV Channel 7 in Detroit, USA has added more fuel to the fire that should be burning because it is the truth, by asking their viewers on their Facebook Page to direct message them if they lost a loved one due to Covid-19 after they refused to get the Covid-19 vaccine.

This is a clear indication that they are getting desperate to find these stories, and are having a difficult time finding them.

We don’t know if they got any such stories through direct messaging, but the post on their Facebook Page, as of the time of publication of this article, had received over 182,000 comments, and they seem to be all comments of those who have lost loved ones after getting the Covid-19 vaccine, and comments asking them why they are not covering that story.
 

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