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Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

  • yes, gimme

    Votes: 29 31.9%
  • not yet

    Votes: 15 16.5%
  • no way

    Votes: 47 51.6%

  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .

mexcurandero420

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A quick fact check says that's not true;

"the inactivated poliovirus vaccine does not produce sterilizing immunity and is 90 percent or more effective. A vaccine can lessen the ability of a pathogen to produce a disease response without sterilizing it. If it does sterilize against a pathogen, it can prevent infection. For example, the human papillomavirus vaccine induces sterilizing immunity."

Duration of Protection


It is not known how long people who received IPV will be immune to poliovirus, but they are most likely protected for many years after a complete series of IPV.

Page last reviewed: May 4, 2018

From your CDC website
 

unclefishstick

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Duration of Protection


It is not known how long people who received IPV will be immune to poliovirus, but they are most likely protected for many years after a complete series of IPV.

Page last reviewed: May 4, 2018

From your CDC website

yes,but with polio essentially gone it would be very difficult to get...kinda the whole point of vaxxing a significant portion of the populous,no more or very few reservoirs of infection
 

Cannavore

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"Wild poliovirus has been eradicated in all continents except Asia, and as of 2020, Afghanistan and Pakistan are the only two countries where the disease is still classified as endemic."


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h.h.

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1979 was the last case of polio that originated WITHIN the USA
1993 was the last time someone brought a case of polio into the country by travelling

in other words, vaccines work.
They just gave it another name so they could kill more kids by selling fake medicine. Think about it. It’s just common sense among the commoners. It was a vision from god and not that whack god with all that make believe stuff. The real god whose kid overdosed and passed out in a cave. The kind one whose going to bring on hellfire and doom.
 

TNTBudSticker

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Idaho doctor reports “20 times increase” in cancer among those “vaccinated” for covid



(Natural News) Dr. Ryan Cole, a board-certified pathologist and diagnostics lab owner and operator based out of Idaho, has released shocking new information about how Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) “vaccines” are causing a massive “uptick” in autoimmune diseases and cancer.

In a video produced by the Idaho state government’s “Capitol Clarity” project, Cole revealed how he is now seeing a 2,000 percent chronic illness increase in folks who took Donald “father of the vaccine” Trump’s “Operation Warp Speed” injections.

“Since January 1, in the laboratory, I’m seeing a 20-times increase of endometrial cancers over what I see on an annual basis,” Cole stated in the video.

“I’m not exaggerating at all because I look at my numbers year over year, and I’m like ‘Gosh, I’ve never seen this many endometrial cancers before.'”

Cole revealed these and other statistics at a March 18 event, telling Idahoans that the so-called “vaccines” for the Fauci Flu are invoking a “reverse HIV” type of autoimmune response in people’s bodies.

A normal, well-functioning immune system has two types of cells that keep the body healthy: “helper” T-cells, also known as CD4, and “killer” T-cells, also known as CD8 cells. In the “fully vaccinated,” there is a massive suppression of “helper” T-cells, Cole warns, which leaves the patient susceptible to an array of illnesses.

“Post-vaccine, what we are seeing is a drop in your killer T-cells, in your CD8 cells,” Cole stated. “And what do CD8 cells do? They keep all other viruses in check.”

Is the government injecting people with HIV and calling it “covid vaccination?”

Cole’s claims resonate with the results of a study published in The Lancet late last year which found that Chinese Virus shots greatly increase a person’s risk of developing an HIV infection.


Other ingredients in the jabs, including polyethylene glycol, are also causing problems for people’s immune systems. Rather than protect them against a China Virus infection as claimed, these injection additives present a serious toxicity risk that could lead to even more health problems on top of those caused by the jabs’ HIV-like effects.

“Most concerning of all, there is a pattern of these types of immune cells in the body keeping cancer in check,” Cole warns about what these shots are doing, including in young people who were fully healthy before getting jabbed.

“I’m seeing invasive melanomas in younger patients; normally we catch those early, and they are thin melanomas, [but] I’m seeing thick melanomas skyrocketing in the last month or two.”

Cole has spoken at several events over the past several months, warning people about the serious risks involved with getting jabbed. Some of his work has been scrubbed from YouTube for being too truthful, so keep an eye out for fresh content about Dr. Ryan Cole at Brighteon.com.
 

TNTBudSticker

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VAXSSASSINATION: How globalists convinced BILLIONS of people to exterminate themselves with biological weapons presented as “vaccines”

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-09...iological-weapons-presented-as-vaccines.html#

In Scotland, 80% of the covid deaths are now occurring among the vaccinated. And in high vaccination rate countries like Israel and Singapore, hospitalizations and deaths are skyrocketing. It shouldn’t be any surprise, of course, because when you inject lots of people with biological weapons, many of them get sick and die. 1 + 1 = 2. It’s straight up cause and effect.
The globalists are aware of something much bigger that’s approaching our world… something on a COSMIC scale


As I’ve revealed previously, the total panic of the globalists in their mad rush to exterminate the human race reveals something truly astonishing: They themselves fear what’s coming… something cosmic, something bigger than any pandemic or any war. There’s an approaching threat they know about, and they believe this event will collapse human civilization as we know it… hence their need to rapidly cleanse the planet of humans so that the chaos can be somewhat controlled. (They don’t want billions of people realizing what’s happening and then panicking in the streets, going after all the resources that globalists themselves need to survive.)

It’s almost as if these anti-human globalists know for certain that there’s an approaching supervolcano event, or an asteroid that’s going to collide with the planet, or an alien invasion (or perhaps a faked one) or some other similar world-ending event that’s imminent. So they’re in a mad rush to exterminate as many as possible before that event approaches. (Could it be Planet X?)

We can therefore take an informed guess that since the vaccine death agenda is being aggressively, desperately accelerated right now, this approaching event is probably expected to emerge sometime in 2022. The coming winter is likely to be the target window for globalists to release the second half of their binary bioweapon, causing mass casualties among the vaccinated, via hyperinflammation reactions to the newly-released pathogens or particles. This could theoretically kill off billions of humans by the time mid-2022 arrives
 

Chi13

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Lol, naturalnews is just utter bullshit.
  • Overall, we rate Natural News a Questionable source based on the promotion of quackery level pseudoscience and conspiracy theories, as well as extreme right-wing bias. This is one of the most discredited sources on the internet.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/natural-news/

When NaturalNews began, it was basically the blog and sales portal of anti-pharmaceutical activist Mike Adams. His basic premise has always been the Big Pharma conspiracy, the idea that the medical industry secretly wants to keep everyone sick, and conspires with the food industry to make people unhealthy, all driven by a massive plot of greed to sell poisonous medicines. Adams appears to have become a protégé of Alex Jones, for he now writes on NaturalNews at least as many police state conspiracy articles as he does anti-science based medicine articles. They carry ads for each other on their sites as well.
https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4283
 

mexcurandero420

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Probably is for some to difficult to judge by themself that they need fact-checking lol, but a German pathologist did say the same about the cd8 cells and was published on a German website for pathologists.
 

Chi13

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Probably is for some to difficult to judge by themself that they need fact-checking lol, but a German pathologist did say the same about the cd8 cells and was published on a German website for pathologists.

Not difficult to judge at all. Did you read the second article? The heading should have been enough of a hint.

If you read the frist article and follow the link to the alleged Lancet report, it links to another article from natural news that again quotes the study, but links somewhere else. Follow the false trail further and you still don't get to the Lancet report, but to another news site, greatgameindia, which reports on Deep State FFS.

Reports are getting more ridiculous every day. Now the vaccine is a biological weapon that globalists are trying to kill us with? :biglaugh:
I only included a fact check site to back up what should be plainly obvious.
This shit should have no place in any rational debate about Covid and vaccines.
 
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mexcurandero420

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Not difficult to judge at all. Did you read the second article? The heading should have been enough of a hint.

If you read the frist article and follow the link to the alleged Lancet report, it links to another article from natural news that again quotes the study, but links somewhere else. Follow the false trail further and you still don't get to the Lancet report, but to another news site, greatgameindia, which reports on Deep State FFS.

Reports are getting more ridiculous every day. Now the vaccine is a biological weapon that globalists are trying to kill us with? :biglaugh:
I only included a fact check site to back up what should be plainly obvious.
This shit should have no place in any rational debate about Covid and vaccines.

Brian writes this in the second link of you
When NaturalNews began, it was basically the blog and sales portal of anti-pharmaceutical activist Mike Adams. His basic premise has always been the Big Pharma conspiracy, the idea that the medical industry secretly wants to keep everyone sick, and conspires with the food industry to make people unhealthy, all driven by a massive plot of greed to sell poisonous medicines.

Some examples
Purdue Pharma (opioid crisis)
Johnson & Johnson (asbestos in baby powder, opioid crisis)
Merck (Vioxx ,88000 got a heart attack and 38000 died after taking it)
pfizer (1986: Pfizer had to withdraw an artificial heart valve from the market after defects led to it being implicated in over 300 deaths. The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) withdrew its approval for the product in 1986 and Pfizer agreed to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in compensation after multiple lawsuits were brought against it.

2003: Pfizer has long been condemned for profiteering from AIDS drugs. In 2003 for example, it walked away from a licencing deal for its Rescriptor drug that would have made it cheaper for poorer countries.

2011: Pfizer was forced to pay compensation to families of children killed in the controversial Trovan drug trial. During the worst meningitis epidemic seen in Africa, in 1996, Pfizer ran a trial in Nigeria their new drug Trovan. Five of the 100 children who took Trovan died and it caused liver damage, while it caused lifelong disabilities in those who survived. But another group of 100 children were given the conventional “gold standard” meningitis antibiotic as a “control” group for comparison. Six of them also tragically died because, the families said, Pfizer had given them less than the recommended level of the conventional antibiotic in order to make Trovan look more effective.

2012: Pfizer had to pay around $1billion to settle lawsuits claiming its Prempro drug caused breast cancer. Prempro was used in hormone replacement therapy, usually for women going through the menopause. The settlements came after six years of trials and hardship for the women affected.

2013: Pfizer paid out $273 million to settle over 2,000 cases in the US that accused its smoking treatment drug Chantix of provoking suicidal and homicidal thoughts, self harm and severe psychological disorders. Pfizer was also accused of improperly excluding patients with a history of depression or other mental disturbances from trials for the drug. Later, in 2017, a coroner in Australia ruled that the drug had contributed to a man’s suicide. The man’s mother campaigned to change the label on the drug.

2020: Pfizer reached an agreement with thousands of customers of its depo-testosterone drug in 2018 after they sued it for increasing the likelihood of numerous issues, including heart attacks.)
 

Chi13

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Brian writes this in the second link of you


Some examples
Purdue Pharma (opioid crisis)
Johnson & Johnson (asbestos in baby powder, opioid crisis)
Merck (Vioxx ,88000 got a heart attack and 38000 died after taking it)
pfizer (1986: Pfizer had to withdraw an artificial heart valve from the market after defects led to it being implicated in over 300 deaths. The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) withdrew its approval for the product in 1986 and Pfizer agreed to pay hundreds of millions of dollars in compensation after multiple lawsuits were brought against it.

2003: Pfizer has long been condemned for profiteering from AIDS drugs. In 2003 for example, it walked away from a licencing deal for its Rescriptor drug that would have made it cheaper for poorer countries.

2011: Pfizer was forced to pay compensation to families of children killed in the controversial Trovan drug trial. During the worst meningitis epidemic seen in Africa, in 1996, Pfizer ran a trial in Nigeria their new drug Trovan. Five of the 100 children who took Trovan died and it caused liver damage, while it caused lifelong disabilities in those who survived. But another group of 100 children were given the conventional “gold standard” meningitis antibiotic as a “control” group for comparison. Six of them also tragically died because, the families said, Pfizer had given them less than the recommended level of the conventional antibiotic in order to make Trovan look more effective.

2012: Pfizer had to pay around $1billion to settle lawsuits claiming its Prempro drug caused breast cancer. Prempro was used in hormone replacement therapy, usually for women going through the menopause. The settlements came after six years of trials and hardship for the women affected.

2013: Pfizer paid out $273 million to settle over 2,000 cases in the US that accused its smoking treatment drug Chantix of provoking suicidal and homicidal thoughts, self harm and severe psychological disorders. Pfizer was also accused of improperly excluding patients with a history of depression or other mental disturbances from trials for the drug. Later, in 2017, a coroner in Australia ruled that the drug had contributed to a man’s suicide. The man’s mother campaigned to change the label on the drug.

2020: Pfizer reached an agreement with thousands of customers of its depo-testosterone drug in 2018 after they sued it for increasing the likelihood of numerous issues, including heart attacks.)
None of that has anything to do with what I was posting about.
You get no argument from me that pharma companies are in it for profit, and I have even mentioned this in another post. What you have just posted are some of the worst examples of the pharma industry. There are others I am aware of. However, there is nothing to gain by Pfizer in creating a vaccine that kills us, as that pretty much destroys their market and profit.It would be the end of Pfizer.

Both articles posted were factually wrong with links that did not go where they claimed.

So, do you actually think this (below) is factual, I mean even remotely? It's the rantings of a nutcase, or worse, someone preying on the fears of the gullible. I guess if we have an alien invasion, asteroid collision, or all the vaxed are dead by 2022 youll have the last laugh. :laughing:

VAXSSASSINATION: How globalists convinced BILLIONS of people to exterminate themselves with biological weapons presented as “vaccines”

https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-09-...vaccines.html#

In Scotland, 80% of the covid deaths are now occurring among the vaccinated. And in high vaccination rate countries like Israel and Singapore, hospitalizations and deaths are skyrocketing. It shouldn’t be any surprise, of course, because when you inject lots of people with biological weapons, many of them get sick and die. 1 + 1 = 2. It’s straight up cause and effect.
The globalists are aware of something much bigger that’s approaching our world… something on a COSMIC scale

As I’ve revealed previously, the total panic of the globalists in their mad rush to exterminate the human race reveals something truly astonishing: They themselves fear what’s coming… something cosmic, something bigger than any pandemic or any war. There’s an approaching threat they know about, and they believe this event will collapse human civilization as we know it… hence their need to rapidly cleanse the planet of humans so that the chaos can be somewhat controlled. (They don’t want billions of people realizing what’s happening and then panicking in the streets, going after all the resources that globalists themselves need to survive.)

It’s almost as if these anti-human globalists know for certain that there’s an approaching supervolcano event, or an asteroid that’s going to collide with the planet, or an alien invasion (or perhaps a faked one) or some other similar world-ending event that’s imminent. So they’re in a mad rush to exterminate as many as possible before that event approaches. (Could it be Planet X?)

We can therefore take an informed guess that since the vaccine death agenda is being aggressively, desperately accelerated right now, this approaching event is probably expected to emerge sometime in 2022. The coming winter is likely to be the target window for globalists to release the second half of their binary bioweapon, causing mass casualties among the vaccinated, via hyperinflammation reactions to the newly-released pathogens or particles. This could theoretically kill off billions of humans by the time mid-2022 arrives
 
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mexcurandero420

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Well, not long ago they increased the prices of the jabs, while we're having a pandemic.Pfizer was already expensive compared to other jabs, but where are the ethics? Most people thinks it's free, but we all pay taxes and those jabs are paid by the governments, which actually don't have any money, that's why there are taxes.

Btw WXYZ channel asked on Facebook if someone lost unvaccinated love ones, only they didn't expect the answers of most visitors.
https://m.facebook.com/80221381134/posts/10158207967261135/
 

troutman

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Idaho doctor reports “20 times increase” in cancer among those “vaccinated” for covid

Messing around with genetic codes will cause cancers and any geneticist would agree with me. ;)

RNA viruses change the host DNA. The mRNA vaccine is changing something for sure. ;)
 

Chi13

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Well, not long ago they increased the prices of the jabs, while we're having a pandemic.Pfizer was already expensive compared to other jabs, but where are the ethics? Most people thinks it's free, but we all pay taxes and those jabs are paid by the governments, which actually don't have any money, that's why there are taxes.

Btw WXYZ channel asked on Facebook if someone lost unvaccinated love ones, only they didn't expect the answers of most visitors.
https://m.facebook.com/80221381134/posts/10158207967261135/
I have not argued anywhere that Pfizer or any other pharma company is ethical. All I have said is that those 2 articles posted from natural news are bullshit, which they are. Your response is to say that Pfizer isn't ethical?
Then you add some anecdotes from Facebook?

My government puts out weekly reports on adverse reactions and deaths related to the 2 vaccines we have here, AZ and Pfizer. Initially there were deaths from AZ, but those below age 60 were then given Pfizer and there have been no deaths so far from Pfizer. Please read the link below if you are going to reply to fully understand it.

Large scale vaccination means that coincidentally some people will experience a new illness or die within a few days or weeks of vaccination.

The TGA reviews all deaths reported in people who have received the vaccination. We also monitor reports for signals that may relate to vaccine safety to distinguish between coincidental events and possible side effects of the vaccine. As the number of vaccinated people has increased, so has reporting of fatal events with a coincidental association with vaccination. This does not indicate a link between vaccination and the fatalities reported. Review of individual reports and patterns of reporting does not suggest the vaccines played a role in these deaths.

https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-09-09-2021
 

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