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Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

  • yes, gimme

    Votes: 29 31.9%
  • not yet

    Votes: 15 16.5%
  • no way

    Votes: 47 51.6%

  • Total voters
    91
  • Poll closed .

Cannavore

Well-known member
Veteran
Have not read about this 14k violation yet. You have a link? Scanning for temperature is basically free. Forcing a mandate, mass unemployment, forcing people to find a new job will create tons of new Republican voters sick of a far reaching government.

at the rate in which republican voters are dying from covid i don't think that will be a problem.
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
very interesting how you all have to resort to israeli data when the US vaccinated 190 million more people than they have. also you people always fail to mention israel was the first country to vaccinate... they are month(s) ahead of the rest of us and their vaccines are wearing off because retards are continuing to spread and allow the virus to mutate amongst the unvaccinated. Delta's from India, Mu's from South America somewhere.... these are not heavily vaccinated countries lol.


it's not a fairy tale at all. the vaccine stops you from dying from covid. that's why all the people dying and being hospitalized in the US are the unvaccinated.




still using VAERs lmao

So now oversudden retards are spreading the disease and yep Israel was one of the first countries who started the jabs and probably it's not really working is it to get immunity.Its just like they're on heroin.😬

Probably you don't know but when you want to travel you need nowadays such a new passport and don't think that Israel would let you in without one.

The rich countries all buying those jabs for themselves and in the meanwhile the most poorest countries have to use Ivermectin if they can get it.Normally Big Pharma use those countries for testing new medication, but nowadays it's the other way around.
 

audiohi

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"All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have... Fellas, I need 11,000 votes, give me a break."

~~trump


You're going to need to find a few more these days...
 

Cannavore

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Veteran
So now oversudden retards are spreading the disease
they've always been spreading the disease in part with the way vaccines were rolled out to only rich nations. AKA in the third world, because people are largely unvaccinated (India was 11% vaccinated when the Delta variant exploded) this is where the variants come from.

and yep Israel was one of the first countries who started the jabs and probably it's not really working is it to get immunity.
we always knew this was the case

Probably you don't know but when you want to travel you need nowadays such a new passport and don't think that Israel would let you in without one.
i would never set foot in israel

The rich countries all buying those jabs for themselves and in the meanwhile the most poorest countries have to use Ivermectin if they can get it.Normally Big Pharma use those countries for testing new medication, but nowadays it's the other way around.

it's almost like capitalists want their pleb workers to go back to work no matter the circumstances because they are losing money and people aren't consuming as much.

the vaccines are tested lol, that's why there was originally like 8 different vaccines being developed and only 4? or so have been passed for use.
 

Cannavore

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Veteran
Less than 1% death rate, 100 million people = about 30% of the US population. Try again ;)

republicans are dying at 5x the rate democrats are from covid because they are unvaccinated peasant brained individuals. give it some more time. covid isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
 

Cannavore

Well-known member
Veteran
just some more info on Israel and Sweden....

Sweden has the highest per capita death rate from covid than nearly any other country... death rate 3x as high as their scandinavian neighbors.




Unvaccinated Israelis represent only about 20 percent of the population eligible for a vaccine, but they now constitute half of all serious COVID-19 cases in the country.

According to the latest figures from the Health Ministry, serious cases among unvaccinated Israelis keep on rising, and are on track to surpass those among the inoculated.

As of Tuesday afternoon, 330 out of 679 seriously ill patients were unvaccinated, while 16 were partially vaccinated and 333 were fully vaccinated. There are 168 patients currently in critical condition and 123 are on ventilators. Even so, the number of seriously ill vaccinated patients appears to have plateaued.

Prof. Ran Balicer, who heads a committee of experts advising the Health Ministry on the coronavirus pandemic, referred to the change in a tweet on Tuesday. He wrote that the "trend" of unvaccinated people becoming the majority of new seriously ill patients is continuing, and said that on Monday, over 50 percent of the new patients in serious condition were unvaccinated.

As of August 21, the Health Ministry recorded 215.9 severe COVID-19 cases per 100,000 people among the unvaccinated over the age of 60, compared to 21 per 100,000 people among those who had received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine. This makes unvaccinated older people more than 10 times as likely to experience a severe case as their immunized counterparts.

Around 1.5 million Israelis have already received a third booster shot, which a recent Maccabi Healthcare Services study found was 86 percent effective in preventing COVID-19 infection among people 60 and older.


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Gry

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Because it's so hard to have someone fill out a blank space :biglaugh:

That Boogie is known as fraud, and people who give a fuck about each other generally advise staying away from such things.
Was only recently you were telling us to what extent you had reformed.
 

Cannavore

Well-known member
Veteran
1,300 new covid deaths yesterday in FL.

how's that no mask mandate, no child mask mandates, pro vaccine hesitancy working out? if you want a picture of what a GOP run USA would look like in the time of covid just remember trump got 600k americans killed and that FL & TX are basically the US epicenters for covid at this time.
 

entropical

Active member
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just some more info on Israel and Sweden....

Sweden has the highest per capita death rate from covid than nearly any other country... death rate 3x as high as their scandinavian neighbors.

sure buddy,

”As the CDC urges Americans to mask up against the Delta variant, Sweden’s chief epidemiologist has argued that more data is needed about the strain’s infectiousness. His mask-free nation is hovering at zero Covid deaths per day.”

https://www.rt.com/news/530759-sweden-delta-masks-zero-covid-deaths/

So I guess that means Denmark and Norway is currently in a negative covid mortality of about -3 Covid deaths per day hu?
 

Amynamous

Active member
Consider post #1001 in this thread and what it would mean for the injected.

Although very technical in the writing, it was a letter to the editor that simply recommended that the vaccine manufacturers create a second generation of vaccines to account for the modified spike protein formulations found in the delta variant.
 

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
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Last Updated: 7th August, 2021 19:24 IST

COVID-19: SARS-CoV-2 Antibodies Remain Stable For 7 Months After Infection, Says Study

Healthcare workers' IgG antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 remain constant seven months after infection, as per a study published in the journal Nature Communications

Written By
Bhumika Itkan


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Image: PIXABAY



Healthcare workers' IgG antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 remain constant, if not increasing, seven months after infection, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Communications on Friday, August 6. Covid-19 could also be protected from by pre-existing antibodies against common cold coronaviruses, according to researchers at the Barcelona Institute for Global Health (ISGlobal) in Spain. It is critical to understand the dynamics and duration of immunity to SARS-CoV-2 in order to predict the pandemic's evolution and develop effective strategies, they wrote.The level of antibodies against different SARS-CoV-2 antigens was tracked over time in a sample of healthcare workers at the beginning of the pandemic. ISGlobal researcher Carlota Dobano, who led the study, said, "This is the first study that evaluates antibodies to such a large panel of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies over 7 months." A total of 578 blood samples were collected between March and October 2020.In addition, they examined the presence of antibodies against the four coronaviruses causing common colds in humans. They measured the amount and type of antibodies against six different SARS-CoV-2 antigens. Antibodies' neutralising activity was also examined in collaboration with researchers from Barcelona University.

Most infections during the first covid wave

Health care workers were infected most frequently during the first pandemic wave, according to the study's findings. As a result of this, other recent studies have confirmed that all IgG antibodies, with the exception of those directed against nucleocapsid (N), remain stable over time. All body fluids and tissues contain Immunoglobulin G (IgG), the most abundant form of the antibody. These antibodies are produced towards the end of the infection process and they are vital for the body's recovery.

Gemma Moncunill, the senior co-author of the study, said, "Rather surprisingly, we even saw an increase of IgG anti-spike antibodies in 75 percent of the participants from month five onwards, without any evidence of re-exposure to the virus." The researchers found no evidence of reinfections in the cohort. Antibodies against human coronaviruses (HCoV) may also protect against COVID-19 infection, according to the study.

According to the researchers, people who were infected with SARS-CoV-2 had lower levels of HCoV antibodies. According to the researchers, asymptomatic individuals had higher levels of anti-HCoV IgG and IgA than those with symptoms. Carlota Dobano added, "Although cross-protection by pre-existing immunity to common cold coronaviruses remains to be confirmed, this could help explain the big differences in susceptibility to the disease within the population."

https://www.republicworld.com/lifes...-for-7-months-after-infection-says-study.html
 

Hempy McNoodle

Well-known member
”our data indicate that Delta variants are especially well recognized by infection enhancing antibodies targeting the NTD, the possibility of ADE should be further investigated as it may represent a potential risk for mass vaccination during the current Delta variant pandemic.”

https://www.journalofinfection.com/a...392-3/fulltext

Antibody dependent enhancement, that doesn’t sound very good for the injected now does it?

So, the immune system is going to attack itself and others? ADE sounds like some AIDS (ADEs).
 

trichrider

Kiss My Ring
Veteran

An illustration picture of COVID-19 vaccine vials with a flag of the United States. (Justin Tallis/AFP via Getty Images)


Vaccines & Safety

CDC Changes Definition of Vaccine So It Can’t Be ‘Interpreted to Mean That Vaccines Are 100% Effective’



By Meiling Lee
September 9, 2021 Updated: September 9, 2021

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recently revised its definition for vaccine and vaccination on one of its web pages, saying that the new definition is “more transparent” and can’t be misinterpreted.
“While there have been slight changes in wording over time to the definition of ‘vaccine’ on CDC’s website, those haven’t impacted the overall definition,” a CDC spokesperson told The Epoch Times via email.
“The previous definition at Immunization Basics | CDC could be interpreted to mean that vaccines are 100% effective, which has never been the case for any vaccine, so the current definition is more transparent, and also describes the ways in which vaccines can be administered.”
From 2015 to Aug. 31, 2021, a vaccine was defined as “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease” and vaccination was “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.”
Earlier versions of a vaccine definition also included “immunity” in its definition.
The new definition for the vaccine now reads, “A preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases,” while vaccination is “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection from a specific disease.”
While supporters of the CDC’s revision say that it’s natural to revise the definition as the science evolves, opponents say the changes have nothing to do with the evolution of science. Rather, the CDC is making the revision in response to the current COVID-19 vaccines being less effective against the Delta variant.
Emmy Award-winning investigative reporter and Epoch Times contributor Sharyl Attkisson said the new definition was made to “meet the declining ability of some of today’s ‘vaccines,’ including the COVID-19 vaccine,” adding that “after the COVID-19 vaccines were introduced, and it was discovered they do not necessarily ‘prevent disease’ or ‘provide immunity,’ CDC altered the definition of vaccines again to say that they merely ‘produce protection.’”
Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) took to Twitter about the CDC’s definition change and compared it to George Orwell’s “1984,” writing, “They’ve been busy at the Ministry of Truth.”
Check out @CDCgov’s evolving definition of “vaccination.” They’ve been busy at the Ministry of Truth: pic.twitter.com/4k2xf8rvsL
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) September 8, 2021
The effectiveness of the vaccines to keep people out of the hospital had dropped to between 75 percent and 95 percent, according to CDC on Aug. 30. The health agency said the largest decline occurred in the most vulnerable group, people older than 75. However, the vaccines are still effective against severe illness.
Several studies have found that the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines is waning. An ongoing study in the United States found that the COVID-19 vaccines’ effectiveness dropped to 66 percent from 91 percent after the Delta variant became dominant in the country. A different study said so-called breakthrough infections increased to 25 percent of all infections in Los Angeles County between May 1 and July 25.
Israel, with the highest vaccination rates around the world, will administer a fourth dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine to its citizens after offering a third booster shot to people 12 and older in August. The country with a population of more than 9 million and with more than 5 million fully vaccinated, is experiencing the fourth wave. More than 2.7 million Israelis have received the third dose as of Sept. 8.
The CDC’s updated definition of vaccine and vaccination is the same as in the Merriam-Webster dictionary, which had revised the words earlier this year in February to include the messenger RNA vaccines.
In January, Merriam-Webster still defined a vaccine as “a preparation of killed microorganisms, living attenuated organisms, or living fully virulent organisms that are administered to produce or artificially increase immunity to a particular disease.”
The “older” definition of vaccine can still be found in other online dictionaries, including Oxford Languages.
“It’s also important to note that the modifications to the definition of ‘vaccine’ don’t change the fact that vaccines and the act of vaccination have prevented millions of illnesses and saved countless lives,” the CDC spokesperson said.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/cdc-c...ml?utm_source=partner&utm_campaign=whatfinger
 

trichrider

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BREAKING NEWS: 80% Of The COVID-19 Deaths In August Were Vaccinated People Confirmed The Public Health Data!


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COVID-19 vaccination is a failure, and that proves the reports from August, sharing that 80% of the dead population due to COVID-19 complications were vaccinated.

We live in a period when if you believe in the vaccine, you find it strange that the UK faced a third wave in the middle of the summer while having a high vaccination rate, and in summer 2020 when we didn’t have vaccines, their coronavirus deaths flat-lined to zero.

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In the report, we can find information on testing, quarantining, vaccinations, cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. In addition, we can see the COVID-19 positive cases numbers together with the vaccination status.

We can understand that new cases happen among the vaccinated population. From August 18 to September 3, we have marked 20,744 unvaccinated tested people who were tested only because they weren’t vaccinated.

But we witnessed 5,508 positive cases among the partly vaccinated population and 16,810 breakthrough cases. The vaccinated population isn’t tested as much as needed because they are already vaccinated.

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From August 18 to September 3, we have 22,318 cases, 2,000 more than the unvaccinated cases. Also, from the report about the previous week, from August 18, we have 15.647 unvaccinated cases and 22.234 among the vaccinated population.

The COVID-19 vaccines can’t stop the spread of the virus.

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Additionally, the report shared data about hospitalizations. In the week from August 28 to September 3, we had 36 hospitalizations, 19 unvaccinated over 90 population, and 7 admissions in partly vaccinated.

However, we have 300 admissions among fully immunized over 90 population. And we see the same numbers for the previous week.

We have 271 hospitalizations among the unvaccinated population and 423 among the vaccinated individuals.

The previous week, the report noted 15,047 cases among the unvaccinated. In unvaccinated hospitalization, the rate is 1.7%.
COVID-19 vaccines only increase the risk of hospitalization!

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Table 17 of the Public Health Scotland report shows the number of deaths to have occurred via vaccination status. However, PHS has been very clever in the way they’ve presented the number of deaths. Because rather than present them on a week-by-week basis as they have with the number of cases and hospitalizations, they’ve instead included deaths all the way back to December 29.

This means they are including deaths from the height of the alleged second wave of Covid-19, where just 9% of the population had received a single dose, and just 0.1% of the entire population were fully vaccinated.

Therefore, PHS is very sneakily able to give the impression that the majority of Covid-19 deaths are occurring among the unvaccinated population.

From the chart, we can see precisely that in Scotland. The tables tell us that the vaccines are effective, but the report shared presents us with bad numbers. We have 3.102 deaths among the unvaccinated population, 279 among the partly vaccinated, and 298 among the fully vaccinated population.

Below you can read the deaths numbers by vaccination status about August.

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Unvaccinated population – 25 deaths
Partly vaccinated population – 6 deaths
Fully vaccinated population – 92 deaths
Until August 19, America lost 3.096 unvaccinated people, 277 partly vaccinated, and 164 fully immunized.
The valid number of deaths by vaccination status from August 19- 26 is:
Unvaccinated population – 6 deaths
Partly vaccinated population – 2 deaths
Fully vaccinated population – 34 deaths


All in all, we can summarize that the vaccines aren’t protecting us neither prevent severe complications due to the coronavirus. However, governments worldwide are promoting this vaccine. Why?
Watch the video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVMht2wqEAo
 

Amynamous

Active member
trichrider
Your post was for the UK and Scotland, and the graphs indicate that 85% of the deaths occurred among the unvaccinated.
I’ve been tracking the weekly numbers and the US is averaging ~ 95% of the weekly deaths are occurring among the unvaccinated.
 

'Boogieman'

Well-known member
That Boogie is known as fraud, and people who give a fuck about each other generally advise staying away from such things.
Was only recently you were telling us to what extent you had reformed.

The government is defrauding me out of my constitutional rights and freedoms. I will do what is necessary to fight tranny. And as far as reformed, I said I would wear a mask in a nursing home and you should be content with that.
 

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