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Coronavirus.. outlook

Medfinder

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Swamp Thang

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Speculation about chinese houston consolate closing.

Officials suggested that chinese ccp party tring to hack vaccine info..

U.S. Accuses Hackers of Trying to Steal Coronavirus Vaccine Data for China
Two suspects in China targeted companies working on vaccines as part of a broader cybertheft campaign to enrich themselves and aid the Chinese government, officials said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/07/21/us/politics/china-hacking-coronavirus-vaccine.amp.html


One would have expected that the enterprising lab-coat clad crew that brought the Wuhan Corona virus to a theater near everyone, would also have the antidote formula, perhaps even available for sale to the highest bidder.
 

St. Phatty

Active member
They closed the Russian consulate in SF around 2012.


Very serious news from the science community yesterday about Covid19 & its similarity to AIDS.

it's normal to wait a week before publicizing the really serious stuff.

I found myself on the edge of tears several times today as the impact of yesterday's article hit home.

I actually went skin-diving in the river for 2 hours to get away from it.
 

Phaeton

Speed of Dark
Veteran
The autopsies, even in asymptomatic deaths, show blood thickening into a gel before death. From flowing liquid to immobile jelly in every major organ needed to sustain life.

The only sense this makes is if AIDs shares a part in the virus.
Many things make more sense. It has been in our face obvious this is not a variant of simple flu.

Eventually we will have the complete answer. It may come after fifty million have died or perhaps sooner.
For this particular moment a new direction has been found early on, if our luck (yes, Luck) holds we may have understanding by next year even though the understanding may be "too many" modes of entry for a vaccine to function.

The true nature of what we face is vicious far beyond what we have been fearing so far.
 

igrowone

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Veteran
No way in hell I am taking a rushed vaccine or allowing my family to be exposed to it.
we are on a very wild trip here
don't fault you a bit, the roll out will be gradual for sure
everyone will have to judge where their risk lies
that multiple vaccines are showing responses is a good sign
it's progress, hope it helps
 

Klompen

Active member
All the science I am seeing about it says that developing a non-strain-specific vaccine will be much greater than the moon landing in terms of difficulty. We'll be lucky to see seasonal vaccines that sometimes work
 

Swamp Thang

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Veteran
In the meantime contact a local veterinarian and buy some dexamethasone and ivermectrin...lol


I'll woof to that. Matter of fact, I'll woof twice. The name Ivermektin does keep popping up as a component of possible cures, and the drug has cured some truly hideous tropical parasitic infestations in this old hound.
 

St. Phatty

Active member
The true nature of what we face is vicious far beyond what we have been fearing so far.

if you want to understand Covid19, do these web searches -


mortality rate when people with AIDS get the flu

what happens when people with AIDS get a herpes cold sore



this came out Tuesday. so, -5- more days before it is official.


human body has 2 'channels' for its immune system - cellular response, and antibodies. (of course, the antibodies are produced by specialized cells).


what Covid19 does, and this is 5 days premature & very serious - it turns off the interferon response to common diseases like the flu.

hence the similarity to AIDS - probably.

the 2020-2021 flu season is (probably) going to make a lot of people cry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqDd7ixh184

John Campbell explains.


It's like something out of Ocean's Eleven. imagine a burglar that hacks your security video & opens all the locks.

except at the cellular level.



so when they said Covid19 is "just like the flu", well that was bad luck.

imagine dealing with a flu infection - without your normal immune system.

same for dealing with a Herpes skin infection.
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
Dude, when will you realize trump is our nations hero!

I thought you were Canadian, but think Trump loves Canadians too except perhaps Trudeau with his 4 plants policy.Trumps thinks big.:D

Would there be a difference in counting between a republican State and a democratic State perhaps.The person in the vid doesn't know.
 

mexcurandero420

See the world through a puff of smoke
Veteran
Moderna makes 1 billion corona vaccines that cause mild to severe side effects at 100% in the second test phase.

Pharma giant Moderna (Bill Gates) begins producing as many as 1 billion corona vaccines, which - as we wrote in a previous article - cause mild to severe side effects in as many as 100% of test subjects in the second test phase. The test results are probably far too favorable, since the tests were only conducted with healthy adults, part of which were also employees of Moderna. So what this vaccine will do to children, young people, seniors, pregnant women and the chronically ill is 'anyone's guess'. Yet apparently everyone thinks it is a great idea to be injected with this later. "Protection against Covid-19," it is said, but we think Russian Roulette 2.0 is a better description.

On July 14, Moderna announced the results of the tests with the experimental mRNA vaccine against the coronavirus. The measured number of antibodies was so high in all subjects that Moderna spoke of 'a robust immune response'. We do not know whether the number of antibodies actually increased, because this was not measured before the start of the study (!).

There were 28 days between the first and second vaccination. 7 of the 13 subjects (54%) experienced 'systemic side effects' after the second vaccination with 25 micrograms. 15 out of 15 people (100%) who were injected with 100 micrograms, and 14 out of 14 (100%) who received 250 micrograms, all experienced systemic side effects, 3 of the group of 14 being 'serious' (= 21%) .

Consequences for children, seniors and pregnant women are completely unknown

After the first vaccination, between 33% and 67% of subjects experienced "mild" side effects, such as exhaustion, headache, chills, muscle aches, and injection site pain. The side effects after the second vaccination were much worse. The authors of the study concluded that the mRNA-1273 vaccine causes 'a robust immune response', and that is why production of 1 billion vaccines is started. There were no reservations or safety requirements that could have led to the termination of the investigation.

Moreover, only the side effects were announced in the first (over) 3 months after the second vaccination. Not a single word was spilled about the possible health consequences in the medium and long term. Because only healthy adults were tested - including a number of Moderna employees, who can hardly be called objective - it is completely unknown what this vaccine will do for children, young people, seniors, pregnant women and the (chronically) ill.

Figures processed by company that works closely with Bill Gates

Then Moderna's figures are also processed by the data company EMMES, which works very closely with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. It goes without saying that this fact is not particularly favorable for the reliability of the test data.

Furthermore, we have often pointed to the great unreliability - and therefore actual uselessness - of the PCR test used (only 40% to 70% reliable, with huge numbers of false positives and false negatives). The Moderna researchers have only measured an 'immune response', but cannot say whether that immune response actually helps to counter Covid-19, and thus protects health.

Testing disastrous, yet mass production

In vaccine trials, it is normal the rule of thumb that no - or only very minimal - side effects should occur in healthy adults if a vaccine is to be considered safe enough to develop. The Moderna tests have therefore been disastrous, and should have been immediately declared 'failed' and aborted. Nevertheless, this vaccine is now in unprecedented mass production, and that while the test phase-2 with 600 adults has yet to take place!

Russian Roulette 2.0

In the first paragraph, we compared accepting this vaccine with a game of Russian Roulette. However, there is one clear difference: in Russian Roulette, only one bullet goes into the revolver, and the other rooms remain empty. With the Covid-19 vaccine - whether from Moderna, AstraZeneca, GSK, Sanofi or any other manufacturer - we believe it is exactly the opposite, with one chamber remaining empty, while the rest is filled with bullets.

Bill Gates was clearly not kidding when he recently warned that we need to account for 700,000 vaccine victims, which was most likely an overly conservative estimate. We wish all people who will line up in line for their corona shot (pun intended) no later than next year , therefore a lot of strength.
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
Coronavirus Cases:
15,424,553
view by country
Deaths:
631,237
Recovered:
9,397,642
ACTIVE CASES
5,395,674
Currently Infected Patients
5,329,370 (99%)
in Mild Condition
66,304 (1%)
Serious or Critical
CLOSED CASES
10,028,879
Cases which had an outcome:
9,397,642 (94%)
Recovered / Discharged

631,237 (6%)
Deaths:comfort:
 
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You may want to look at melatonin, titration doses of aspirin and butylated hydroxytoluene while you are at it.
 

Amynamous

Active member
@Mex Bill Gates and his foundation provided 100 million dollars in seed money to several small biotech companies that had promising covid19 vaccines/treatments. The US government has been doing the same thing. I believe other governments and wealthy persons/ foundations have been doing the same. Wait until all of the results are in. No reason to get your panties in a bunch hating on Gates. I believe there’s already a couple of threads on that.
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
I thought you were Canadian, but think Trump loves Canadians too except perhaps Trudeau with his 4 plants policy.Trumps thinks big.:D

Would there be a difference in counting between a republican State and a democratic State perhaps.The person in the vid doesn't know.

Trump hates anyone that doesn't kiss his ass.
 

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