Medfinder
Chemon 91
Thanks for the reality check.
Info is info..much vetting brings truth.
Coronavirus is very real.
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Thanks for the reality check.
Info is info..much vetting brings truth.
Coronavirus is very real.
Medfinder
Chemon 91
COVID-19 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC
Last updated: June 30, 2020, 14:26 GMT
Graphs - Countries - Death Rate - Symptoms - Incubation - Transmission - News
Coronavirus Cases:
10,454,904
view by country
Deaths:
509,208
Recovered:
5,707,741
ACTIVE CASES
4,237,955
Currently Infected Patients
4,180,270 (99%)
in Mild Condition
57,685 (1%)
Serious or Critical
Show Statistics
CLOSED CASES
6,216,949
Cases which had an outcome:
5,707,741 (92%)
Recovered / Discharged
509,208 (8%)
Deaths
Last updated: June 30, 2020, 14:26 GMT
Graphs - Countries - Death Rate - Symptoms - Incubation - Transmission - News
Coronavirus Cases:
10,454,904
view by country
Deaths:
509,208
Recovered:
5,707,741
ACTIVE CASES
4,237,955
Currently Infected Patients
4,180,270 (99%)
in Mild Condition
57,685 (1%)
Serious or Critical
Show Statistics
CLOSED CASES
6,216,949
Cases which had an outcome:
5,707,741 (92%)
Recovered / Discharged
509,208 (8%)
Deaths
So are you are afraid of doctors?..LOL
So all doctors are bad...LOL
Do all doctors lie?
You say you know too may doctors that are serial liars.
Nice, can you tell me why you trust these lying covid doctors then.
Why do you cherry pick which doctors you trust.
Can you make a list of untrustworthy doctors and doctors you can trust?
Do you trust the doctors that tell you hospitals are a war zone?
Do you trust the doctors lying about covid deaths?
If a black man is caught lying, does that make all black men liars?
Are they then all the same and deemed untrustworthy?
Never to trust a black man again.
I only use this example to make a point here.
Where do you draw the line on trust.
In a nutshell what point are you trying to make here by saying you know doctors lie?
Please clarify your point.
Thanks
Shag
Thanks for the reality check.
Info is info..much vetting brings truth.
Coronavirus is very real.
I agree here info is info it must be investigated.
Why do folks knock good info without even a simple investigation into the matter.
Please show your choice of media news ABC, CBS, CNN, they all have lied in the past.
If you want to knock youtube, show your superior source of info.
Mike Hansen on YT has good info about this virus.He works at the icu.
If you have a cough and live in a certain area you are now counted as a confirmed covid case.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPCZHBrRIpI
Do you think that will make the numbers rise quickly?
Are they even counting people that were in contact with you as positive?
It would seem they are.
Do you still trust the numbers?
Even after all I have showed you?
If you still trust the numbers....WOW?
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
Makes sense. That's what I would do if I was looking for people to test. Probable is NOT the numbers you see. Actually, they say that it's PROBABLE that there are 20x more cases. That doesn't mean there are 20x more confirmed.
But they can count the probable as confirmed, you did see that right.
So tests that show a ton of false positives.
Probables being counted.
Death fraud.
Necessary deaths in nursing homes ect.
Hospital employees in the testing lines to make things look busy.
All the lies in the media....
But you still trust the numbers we are being given.
Tell me you don't?
The texas hospitals are a complete war zone right now right?
What are the CEO's of the hospitals saying about this war zone?
Texas Children's Hospital CEO Mark Wallace
Says the media is lying to you again.
"There is not a scenario, in my opinion, where the demand for our beds ... would eclipse our capability," he continued. "I cannot imagine that. I just cannot."
As of Thursday afternoon, Texas had around 13,000 open hospital beds statewide.
What are the CEO's of the hospitals saying about this war zone?
Texas Children's Hospital CEO Mark Wallace
Says the media is lying to you again.
"There is not a scenario, in my opinion, where the demand for our beds ... would eclipse our capability," he continued. "I cannot imagine that. I just cannot."
As of Thursday afternoon, Texas had around 13,000 open hospital beds statewide.
Unfortunately our mainstream media is only interested in pushing the “party line.” So the good news that millions more have been exposed while the fatality rate continues to decline - meaning the virus is getting weaker - is buried under hysterical false reporting of “new cases.”
Unfortunately many governors, including our own here in Texas, are incapable of resisting the endless lies of the mainstream media. They are putting Americans again through the nightmare of forced business closures, mandated face masks, and restrictions of Constitutional liberties based on false propaganda.
In Texas the “second wave” propaganda has gotten so bad that the leaders of the four major hospitals in Houston took the extraordinary step late last week of holding a joint press conference to clarify that the scare stories of Houston hospitals being overwhelmed with Covid cases are simply untrue. Dr. Marc Boom of Houston Methodist said the reporting on hospital capacity is misleading. He said, “quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now.”
In fact, there has been much reporting that the “spike” in Texas cases is not due to a resurgence of the virus but to hospital practices of Covid-testing every patient coming in for any procedure at all.
Unfortunately many governors, including our own here in Texas, are incapable of resisting the endless lies of the mainstream media. They are putting Americans again through the nightmare of forced business closures, mandated face masks, and restrictions of Constitutional liberties based on false propaganda.
In Texas the “second wave” propaganda has gotten so bad that the leaders of the four major hospitals in Houston took the extraordinary step late last week of holding a joint press conference to clarify that the scare stories of Houston hospitals being overwhelmed with Covid cases are simply untrue. Dr. Marc Boom of Houston Methodist said the reporting on hospital capacity is misleading. He said, “quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now.”
In fact, there has been much reporting that the “spike” in Texas cases is not due to a resurgence of the virus but to hospital practices of Covid-testing every patient coming in for any procedure at all.
Ron Paul: The Media Is Lying About The "Second Wave"
If it’s a positive, well that counts as a “Covid hospitalization.”
Why would hospitals be so dishonest in their diagnoses? Billions of appropriated Federal dollars are being funneled to facilities based on the number of “Covid cases” they can produce. As I’ve always said, if you subsidize something you get more of it. And that’s why we are getting more Covid cases.
Let’s go back to the original measurements used to scare Americans into giving up their Constitutional liberties: the daily death numbers. Even though we know hospitals have falsely attributed countless deaths to “Covid-19” that were deaths WITH instead of FROM the virus, we are seeing actual deaths steadily declining over the past month and a half. Declining deaths are not a great way to push the “second wave” propaganda, so the media and politicians have moved the goal posts and decided that only “cases” are important. It’s another big lie.
Resist propaganda and defend your liberty. That is the only way we’ll get through this.
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
That's NOT what he said. Quit spinning the story.
Due to the recent increase in COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations, we want to reassure the public that this pandemic is not eclipsing our capabilities. Our hospitals have the ICU capacity, staff and supplies to meet the needs of our community.
That sounds more like they're tring to calm people as opposed to saying it's all bullshit. You're such a douche.
The only thing I added is that he says the media is lying.
Well here is an exact quote for ya.
Dr. Marc Boom of Houston Methodist said the reporting on hospital capacity is misleading. He said, “quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now.”
What is he really sayin then?
Do you think he feels the media is lying?
Again:
Dr. Marc Boom of Houston Methodist said the reporting on hospital capacity is misleading. He said, “quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now.”
Here I spell it all out for ya.
That policy may be serving to artificially inflate what ostensibly seems like a significant COVID-19 surge in the state.
In fact, there has been much reporting that the “spike” in Texas cases is not due to a resurgence of the virus but to hospital practices of Covid-testing every patient coming in for any procedure at all.
Queries to multiple Texas hospital officials this week went unanswered. But leaders of several major hospitals in Houston this week urged the public to remain calm, suggesting that the extent of the outbreak has been overstated.
The number of hospitalizations are "being misinterpreted," said Houston Methodist CEO Marc Boom, "and, quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now."
He pointed out that his hospital one year ago was at 95% ICU capacity, similar to the numbers the hospital is seeing today. "It is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s," he said. "That's how all hospitals operate."
He noted that around 25% of ICU patients are COVID-19-positive. But the hospital "[has] many levers in our ability to adjust our ICU," he said, claiming that the hospital capacity regularly reported by the media is "base" capacity rather than surge capacity.
That policy may be serving to artificially inflate what ostensibly seems like a significant COVID-19 surge in the state.
In fact, there has been much reporting that the “spike” in Texas cases is not due to a resurgence of the virus but to hospital practices of Covid-testing every patient coming in for any procedure at all.
Queries to multiple Texas hospital officials this week went unanswered. But leaders of several major hospitals in Houston this week urged the public to remain calm, suggesting that the extent of the outbreak has been overstated.
The number of hospitalizations are "being misinterpreted," said Houston Methodist CEO Marc Boom, "and, quite frankly, we’re concerned that there is a level of alarm in the community that is unwarranted right now."
He pointed out that his hospital one year ago was at 95% ICU capacity, similar to the numbers the hospital is seeing today. "It is completely normal for us to have ICU capacities that run in the 80s and 90s," he said. "That's how all hospitals operate."
He noted that around 25% of ICU patients are COVID-19-positive. But the hospital "[has] many levers in our ability to adjust our ICU," he said, claiming that the hospital capacity regularly reported by the media is "base" capacity rather than surge capacity.
Same shit I keep saying over and over.
Now the CEO's of hospitals are speaking up about it.
I guess you figure they are all in on the crazy conspiracy I dreamed up.
Now the CEO's of hospitals are speaking up about it.
I guess you figure they are all in on the crazy conspiracy I dreamed up.
Medfinder
Chemon 91
House Democrats on Tuesday introduced a resolution to ‘investigate and consider’ impeaching Attorney General William Barr. The move comes just a few months after their failed attempt to impeach President Donald Trump.
Congressman Steve Cohen, D-TN, brought the measure to the House floor with the support of 35 co-sponsors. The group alleges that “Attorney General Barr has undermined our judicial system and perverted the rule of law.”
https://saraacarter.com/house-dems-introduce-resolution-to-impeach-ag-barr/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=social-pug
Congressman Steve Cohen, D-TN, brought the measure to the House floor with the support of 35 co-sponsors. The group alleges that “Attorney General Barr has undermined our judicial system and perverted the rule of law.”
https://saraacarter.com/house-dems-introduce-resolution-to-impeach-ag-barr/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=social-pug
I don't know whether it is simply due to most of us in this forum being partial to the odd toke of fragrant wonder-weed, but I have been struck by the polite and lighthearted tone with which differences of opinion are expressed in the IC Mag forum.
The gentlemanly dispute in this thread between ShaggyBawls and TychoMonolyth is to me an example of the laid-back and low-key way debate is handled in this forum, that sets it apart from a couple of other forums that I frequent.
Reading through the last few posts by these two gentlemen, I can almost picture them as two long-time buddies sitting at the bar, knocking back a few cold ones, while trading banter spiced with light humor.
This bud's fer you sirs, and may we ALL be wise and cautious enough to survive the tempest that rages across our fragile planet even as these words are typed from deep inside my makeshift bunker.
The gentlemanly dispute in this thread between ShaggyBawls and TychoMonolyth is to me an example of the laid-back and low-key way debate is handled in this forum, that sets it apart from a couple of other forums that I frequent.
Reading through the last few posts by these two gentlemen, I can almost picture them as two long-time buddies sitting at the bar, knocking back a few cold ones, while trading banter spiced with light humor.
This bud's fer you sirs, and may we ALL be wise and cautious enough to survive the tempest that rages across our fragile planet even as these words are typed from deep inside my makeshift bunker.
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St. Phatty
Active member
a few bong hits might help these folks with their Covid19 jitters ~
https://twitter.com/HunterHoagland/status/1277648946337284097
arkansas bar fight
Universal Masking in Hospitals in the Covid-19 Era
As the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic continues to explode, hospital systems are scrambling to intensify their measures for protecting patients and health care workers from the virus. An increasing number of frontline providers are wondering whether this effort should include universal use of masks by all health care workers. Universal masking is already standard practice in Hong Kong, Singapore, and other parts of Asia and has recently been adopted by a handful of U.S. hospitals.
We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372?fbclid=IwAR19TJM7lT34nQzZoq6Qaq_1n3ukvCOsvHc2QowDRqH_tfvel8yfVzCGPUs
As the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic continues to explode, hospital systems are scrambling to intensify their measures for protecting patients and health care workers from the virus. An increasing number of frontline providers are wondering whether this effort should include universal use of masks by all health care workers. Universal masking is already standard practice in Hong Kong, Singapore, and other parts of Asia and has recently been adopted by a handful of U.S. hospitals.
We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp2006372?fbclid=IwAR19TJM7lT34nQzZoq6Qaq_1n3ukvCOsvHc2QowDRqH_tfvel8yfVzCGPUs
