Can say the same for NON MEDICAL RESEARCH videos, anecdotes by friends non Facebook with skewed/false info.
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Can say the same for NON MEDICAL RESEARCH videos, anecdotes by friends non Facebook with skewed/false info.
Sunshineinabag
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That's an interesting quote lol :yay:
You have yet to provide a counter argument to any of the topics I have posted about.
Your preconceived notions do not equate to proof of the contrary.
If you would care to discuss these topics I am here to do so.
For the record that was a medical research video.
The study was done by the US public heath service.
Did you even watch it before forming your opinion?
I do not think you did, did ya?
Where is my false info, feel free to quote.
Make sure you have proof to the contrary.
Without that you are just blowing smoke.
The facebook friends you dismiss are nurses working in the covid ward.
You guys and your spin, why all the twisting of words.
Why do you try to deceive folks into thinking things are different then they really are.
Why the need for the spin?
And you say I am spreading misinformation??
Show me the information is incorrect.
Bring some proof or just keep up with the hot air.
I wonder how many of the texas tests are flawed?
How can anyone trust the numbers with tests that are flawed?
I just don't get it?
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/pub...er-lab-turns-up-abnormal-number-of-positives/
The Dallas Morning News about tests in Scurry County in West Texas, where state-run testing found 39 people at a nursing home tested positive for COVID-19. None showed symptoms, County Judge Dan Hicks said. When the facility received the results earlier this week and tested residents again at a local hospital, all were negative, he said.
“We’re just glad that we were able to catch it early and figure out what was really going on,” Hicks said Friday. “We tested them twice, within 24 hours, and it was all negatives both times.”
How can anyone trust the numbers with tests that are flawed?
I just don't get it?
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/pub...er-lab-turns-up-abnormal-number-of-positives/
The Dallas Morning News about tests in Scurry County in West Texas, where state-run testing found 39 people at a nursing home tested positive for COVID-19. None showed symptoms, County Judge Dan Hicks said. When the facility received the results earlier this week and tested residents again at a local hospital, all were negative, he said.
“We’re just glad that we were able to catch it early and figure out what was really going on,” Hicks said Friday. “We tested them twice, within 24 hours, and it was all negatives both times.”
TychoMonolyth
Boreal Curing
Oh well then don't get tested and pass it on to your family and friends.
Listen, the apocalypse is here, and by your own doing. Deal with it the way you want. The way I see it, there will be less conspiracy folk and deniers left to mess things up next time around.
Klompen
Active member
If you would actually listen it would be a miracle. I was specifically addressing your continued posting of that shit as though it proves your point about how much of a lie you imagine this virus is or whatever wild theory you have today. THEY DID NOT KNOW WHAT THEY WERE DOING. How much clearer do I have to say it? They were not testing presymptomatic patients and therefor were not testing adequately. The only person in the study who got it was a doctor, and he probably got it while screening potential infected for his trial. His exposure to them was earlier than that of the test subjects. The study does not prove what you seem to think it does, but you won't stop spreading dangerous nonsense even though its plain as day that you're wrong about it.
Yep, watched the video. ONE Dr.(Kaufman) vs. the millions of Dr.s researchers, PA's, CNP's, et.al are trying to save lives. Kaufman states something radically different, in 3 experiments on 1918, it was negative and pandemic do not equate with the millions that died and attempts to find relief was thwarted. Influenza viruses are able to mutate through antigenic drift and shift, which necessitates constantly adapting vaccine varieties. Hence those THREE attempted of getting someone infected was more than likely during "drift and shift". Can't say, just speculation.
I wandered the grave sites in the mid West looking for ancestors and was shock/awe of the hundreds of heads stones in every cemetery visited that died in 1918, young and old alike.
Your hero, Dr. Grundy and his numerous videos, is like Dr. Oz, a quasi-quack, shunned by traditional or even integrative medicine.
Working as an assimilation coordinator for our state's COVID Contact Tracing for the last 2.5 months and likely to continue with schools starting in August, your views are skewed. You can do that, Shag, but it's not the truth.
How many have you known personally that have perished due to COVID? I have 3 on my list: peer (medical friend), a friend, and an elder I've known for 60 some years. I know of 3 other cases that were my Contact in tracing, died of it.
Major difference in preening info and doubtful you'll sway many people with your conspiracies. Stay Well, Shagg.
Or those with their head buried in the sand will be the first to go because they refused to see the truth because the news told them it was just some crazy conspiracy.......:yay:
My thoughts are, the odds favor awareness.
What are you betting on?
The news to inform you of the truth?
Can I ask ya this?
How have they done thus far?
Why does the study not prove what a PHD from MIT thinks it does?
Do tell.....
You seem to be higher educated than the PHD from MIT so I await your explanation.
Time to put you money where your mouth is.
You have to back up what you say in life or it is just hot air.
You have the floor.
Where is the conspiracy, why do you guys always have to go to that.
You do not have an understanding of the word.
To you anything that requires out of the box thinking is crazy talk.
Well that is just not so.
It seems you may be afraid of the truth.
Maybe you missed this part.
Radical thinking yes, some say cutting edge....LOL
“If you research the current theory of viruses called exosomes and the latest head of the NIH giving a talk on the complexity of viruses, you will see this is perfectly in line with the current thinking on what a virus really is…
So you say radical and I say cutting edge.
What does the NIH say?
Oh and thank you for the well wishes.
I am sorry about the way we got on last time.
I hope we can debate our disagreements without it turning to hate.
I hold nothing against you from the last encounter, and hope you can forgive any insults thrown your way.
Stay well yourself and happy growing this summer.
Peace
Shag
Non you tube stuffs...LOL
It is a bit old
Intro to exosomes
Exosomes in Viral Disease
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13311-016-0450-6
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4995926/
Exosomes Transmit Viral Genetic Information and Immune Signals May Cause Immunosuppression and Immune Tolerance in ALV-J Infected HD11 Cells
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32140061/
It is a bit old
Intro to exosomes
Exosomes in Viral Disease
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13311-016-0450-6
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4995926/
Exosomes Transmit Viral Genetic Information and Immune Signals May Cause Immunosuppression and Immune Tolerance in ALV-J Infected HD11 Cells
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32140061/
A small group of researchers, led by Leonid Margolis, a Russian-born virologist at the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD), and Robert Gallo, the HIV pioneer at the University of Maryland School of Medicine, has proposed that this similarity is more than mere coincidence. It’s not just that viruses appear to hijack the cellular pathways used to make extracellular vesicles for their own production — or that cells have also taken on some viral components to use in their vesicles.
Extracellular vesicles and viruses, Margolis argues, are part of a continuum of membranous particles produced by cells.
Between these two extremes are lipid-lined sacs filled with a variety of genetic material and proteins — some from hosts, some from viruses — that cells can use to send messages to one another.
Margolis and his colleagues at the NICHD and abroad weren’t the first to notice the similarities between vesicles and viruses, but their 2016 paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences was the first to hypothesize that they were two extremes of the same phenomenon. The idea was provocative, said Dirk Dittmer, a virologist at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, because people really weren’t thinking in that way. “But those are the kinds of things we like to debate late at night, and no one has an answer.”
Who can then be sure?
Not me , not you......Do you see the point I am trying to make?
How can you be sooo sure?
All I ask is to stay opened minded.
Not too much to ask is it?
An open mind is a good thing, right?
Source:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/cells-talk-in-a-language-that-looks-like-viruses-20180502/
Extracellular vesicles and viruses, Margolis argues, are part of a continuum of membranous particles produced by cells.
Between these two extremes are lipid-lined sacs filled with a variety of genetic material and proteins — some from hosts, some from viruses — that cells can use to send messages to one another.
Margolis and his colleagues at the NICHD and abroad weren’t the first to notice the similarities between vesicles and viruses, but their 2016 paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences was the first to hypothesize that they were two extremes of the same phenomenon. The idea was provocative, said Dirk Dittmer, a virologist at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, because people really weren’t thinking in that way. “But those are the kinds of things we like to debate late at night, and no one has an answer.”
Who can then be sure?
Not me , not you......Do you see the point I am trying to make?
How can you be sooo sure?
All I ask is to stay opened minded.
Not too much to ask is it?
An open mind is a good thing, right?
Source:
https://www.quantamagazine.org/cells-talk-in-a-language-that-looks-like-viruses-20180502/
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For those that said they did not know how to infect properly in the spanish flu experiments....
I suggest you try it with covid.
Same experiments same everything, just you are the Guinea pig.
If they did it all wrong you will have nothing to worry about correct?
Any takers?..LOL
I suggest you try it with covid.
Same experiments same everything, just you are the Guinea pig.
If they did it all wrong you will have nothing to worry about correct?
Any takers?..LOL
Klompen
Active member
First of all: I can find a guy with a PHD that will stand behind nearly anything. Want to find a guy with a PHD who thinks sticking hot pokers in his butt is fun; there's probably one out there somewhere. Having a PHD does NOT instantly equate with any degree of competence. It only shows very basic facts about them like that they are able to read and write and that they are diligent enough to go through enough college to get that degree. I've seen some real idiots who were diligent enough to go through school with top marks.
Secondly: You're waving around another man's PHD like its your own. You seem to believe because there's some overlap between your view and his that it also makes your views gain the backing of a PHD. Its his degree, not yours. Don't wave credentials at me unless they are your own. Otherwise you're just being that guy at the bar who constantly starts shit with people because they are pretty sure their big tough friend will actually step up and win the fight for them.
The study does not prove what you think it does because it lacked adequate science to explain the phenomenon they were experiencing(or not experiencing in this case). They really did not understand presymptomatic vectoring at all.
St. Phatty
Active member
i've known far too many people with MD's & PhD's who were serial liars, to have any respect for people who want to be called "doctor".
A grey haired doctorate holder in engineering once told me that the acronym PHD, stands for Piled High & Deep, with only a hint of a smile in his eyes.
