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Coronavirus.. outlook

Medfinder

Chemon 91
Worldometer
COVID-19 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC
Last updated: April 26, 2020, 13:16 GMT
Graphs - Countries - Death Rate - Symptoms - Incubation - Transmission - News
Coronavirus Cases:
2,940,190
view by country
Deaths:
203,807
Recovered:
841,957
ACTIVE CASES
1,894,426
Currently Infected Patients
1,836,768 (97%)
in Mild Condition

57,658 (3%)
Serious or Critical
Show Statistics
CLOSED CASES
1,045,764
Cases which had an outcome:
841,957 (81%)
Recovered / Discharged

203,807 (19%)
Deaths:comfort:
 

flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
Maybe they ought to see how well cannbis shields the receptors from WuFlu.

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/wo...cts-after-frances-promising-coronavirus-study

According to neurobiologist Jean-Pierre Changeux from France's Pasteur Institut, who co-lead the study, the theory behind the research is that nicotine could adhere to cell receptors and block the virus from entering cells and possibly prevent replication through the body.
 

I'mback

Comfortably numb!
Israel is currently doing a study using high CBD cannabis :) Especially looking at the anti-viral/inflammatory components
 

Crooked8

Well-known member
Mentor
ICMag Donor
Veteran
Worldometer
COVID-19 CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC
Last updated: April 26, 2020, 13:16 GMT
Graphs - Countries - Death Rate - Symptoms - Incubation - Transmission - News
Coronavirus Cases:
2,940,190
view by country
Deaths:
203,807
Recovered:
841,957
ACTIVE CASES
1,894,426
Currently Infected Patients
1,836,768 (97%)
in Mild Condition

57,658 (3%)
Serious or Critical
Show Statistics
CLOSED CASES
1,045,764
Cases which had an outcome:
841,957 (81%)
Recovered / Discharged

203,807 (19%)
Deaths:comfort:

Math is wrong here. 203807 deaths has to be divided by the cases 2,940,190 which is .69%. 200k aint no 20% of 3million lol just sayin.
 

flylowgethigh

Non-growing Lurker
ICMag Donor
Math is worthless on those stats, because the way they count deaths as being WuFlu whether they are or not, and piss poor testing capability.

What they, and I mean whomever is controlling and coordinating he media, is trying to scare us as best as they can. Increasing the number of deaths by counting everything as WuFlu does that.

Seriously, otherwise OK people I know are panicked about his crap. The worst guy, I am gonna get a home test kit for, when they come out. I bet he has had this crap all along, like a lot of people, maybe me too.

Foochie and a bunch of the other 3 letter med mafias are funded by gates. There is an agenda, that conference wasn't a coincidence.

They sure as hell aren't going to let this crisis go to waste, and have masks, sunshine, vitamins, exercise, and lack of fear (triggers bad things in your system) spoil their vaccine / microchip plans.

The masks I see people wearing now are pretty lame, but it is all they can get. The local news shows a woman making masks for her neighbors, with bare hands, and breathing all over the thing on her sewing machine - sigh. At least people are trying.
 

Medfinder

Chemon 91
Right...wrong... Its what media is parroting..
The numbers: Covid-19 has infected more than 2.9 million people and killed at least 205,000 worldwide, according to Johns Hopkins University.
US toll: More than 53,000 people have died in the United States, representing more than a quarter of all deaths worldwide.
Spain eases restrictions: The country's children can finally leave their homes for the first time in over six weeks.
Holy month: Indonesia has temporarily banned domestic travel, as the nation with the world's biggest Muslim population marks the start of the holy month of Ramadan.
2:25 p.m. ET, April 26, 2020
There are more than 950,000 cases of coronavirus in the US
There have been at least 954,182 coronavirus cases and 54,573 deaths due to the virus in the United States, according to a tally by Johns Hopkins University.
As states begin to include “probable deaths” in their counts, so will the university. In the upcoming days, these changes may show as surges of deaths in the United States.

The totals includes cases from all 50 states, the District of Columbia and other U.S. territories, as well as repatriated cases and those in the US military, veterans hospitals and federal prisons.

Cnn....
 

Klompen

Active member
In many ways this is what makes this particular virus so nasty; it can jump species very readily. Soon it may be hard to be sure if our pets, livestock, zoo animals, and service animals might be spreading disease.

The B strain seems to be the real killer when it comes to Covid-19 and unfortunately we have no idea at all if getting one strain confers any degree of immunity. If its like SARS was, it will tend to only grant about 30% increase in immunity to other strains. If so, we could see the very deadly strain hitting New York and Italy right now go on to spread across the country and even start killing people who have recovered from A or C strain.

We will be very lucky if we're free of this disease in under a decade. Yes, its that bad.

Measures after corona infections in minks on Brabant farms.

Two mink breeders in Brabant have discovered corona-infected minks. The animals showed various symptoms including respiratory problems.Investigations have been launched to determine the source of the infections. Because the two companies in Milheeze and Beek en Donk had a few employees with symptoms of the coronavirus, it is assumed that people are infected with animals.

Minister Schouten of Agriculture, Nature and Food Quality has immediately announced measures. As of today, a reporting obligation has been introduced for mink farmers, veterinarians and persons in research institutions. If there are respiratory problems and increased death in mink, this must be reported to the NVWA (Dutch food agency), the ministry reports in a statement .
On both farms - with a total of about 13,000 animals - animals and manure are not allowed to leave the grounds. It is also advised not to walk or cycle within a radius of 400 meters around the two companies.
According to the ministry, previous research has shown that ferrets - which also include mink - are susceptible to infections with the lung virus. For the time being, RIVM does not assume that mink infestations pose an additional risk to public health.
 

Klompen

Active member
I think the best for all concerned would be the TRUTH . Always has been , always will be .

How many disagree with this comment ?

The mere presence of a CORONA VIRUS does NOT a Covid - 19 death make .

Anyone that has received a Flu shot in the last 5 years has a CORONA VIRUS in them .

People are NOT falling out on the streets or in hospital hallways after walking through a cloud of someones breath or looking at another person or shaking hands or giving hugs the way the way most here believe they are because the Ministry is portraying them to be every minute of every hour , 24 hours a day , 7 days a week three fold on weekends for the past couple months .

The fact that 95% of these people had(comorbidity) one foot in the grave & the one on the banana peel had slipped out from under them & just happened to have a CORONA VIRUS in his body makes him a COVID - 19 death without the proper test to confirm VIRAL LOAD & Covid - 19 as the specific cause of death . It has been declared a number of times . People are still giving false CORONA VIRUS DEATH TOLLS

As a general rule, I keep a strong skepticism for claims of "TRUTH" in all caps. First off, Influenza is NOT a corona virus.

Secondly, there is a lot more to this disease than just death. Its neurotoxic, it attacks the pulmonary system, and either it or its metabolites seem to be able to pass the blood-brain barrier. So people can survive it but end up short of breath for years and with IQ damage. Pretty serious stuff.

The experts are concerned about this for a good reason; its incredibly virulent and the vector can shed virus while not showing symptoms yet for an entire week. No, it won't instantly kill you on contact with it, but viruses that do that don't spread well because its obvious people have it.
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
Veteran
Math is wrong here. 203807 deaths has to be divided by the cases 2,940,190 which is .69%. 200k aint no 20% of 3million lol just sayin.

I don't know where you bought your psychic powers, but I'm very relived to hear that every case currently ongoing will include no more deaths. Those of us without your insight are making calculations solely on the case outcomes ie. Those who died or recovered rather than those currently fighting it.
 
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moose eater

Per Medscapes publications over the last several days, some states report the probability of death stats being reported LOWER than actual occurrence.

And yesterday, another observation was published by Medscape re. young adults who've recovered, then experiencing strokes involving primary blood vessels.

It seems that 2 things are true, then; as with tossing a penny in the air, outcomes such as slanting stats is not a one-way street; errors usually don't occur in a one-direction-only manner, and 2.) the aftermath of the Virus, even for younger healthier persons who 'recover', there are some new twists that surprise those observing. Strokes in younger healthier persons after recovery?

Re. the fur markets, though the Eurasian response to wild-caught or any real fur products has had a notable impact on fur markets (lynx dropped over a ~10-year period from once being close to $400 for a very nice/deluxe raw hide, to worth about $45 last winter and into this one, from reports near me), the farmed fur, similar to urban congestion with humans, equates to 'pandemic in a box,' whereas wild fur sources are less apt to share a virus, other than the possible exception of pack critters, such as wolves, for which the prices haven't gone down nearly as much as lynx and some others over the last 10 years, with a very nice large wolf with premium fur still getting ('fleshed' and raw) $350 to $400.

The ironies of this includes the likelihood that farmed fur will become more scarce in general, thus possibly more valuable, assuming folks follow the logical path, and wild-caught fur will likely become more valuable again, as well.
 
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moose eater

Oh, and another development a bit ago, posted some place here at the forums by another member, had CNN reporting that even moderate smokers of cannabis stood to experience greater problems resulting from COVID-19.

No, I didn't bother to read it. Probably should have.

But my initial thought was this; we've had this Virus in the US (that we know of) for just over 3 mos.., and someone has had the opportunity to do a credible study re. the effects of cannabis use and the Virus?? Didn't seem right.

Then a day or 3 ago, NORML published some other source re. respiratory complications in cannabis users, versus those of tobacco smokers, and they stated the correlations were not the same.

In that regard, I admit to letting my biases steer my proverbial ship. However, I also know that when or if I've had bronchial congestion in the past, to the point that it was impacting my breathing to what ever degree, I noted my condition (hard not to, right?), and cut back or temporarily ceased smoking on my own, without needing any input from either NORML or CNN.
 

Crooked8

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I don't know where you bought your psychic powers, but I'm very relived to hear that every case currently ongoing will include no more deaths. Those of us without your insight are making calculations solely on the case outcomes ie. Those who died or recovered rather than those currently fighting it.

Not a psychic, not here to argue, i was just simply showing that 200k cases is in fact NOT 19% of almost 3 million. Not saying anything other than that. Just didnt want ppl thinking this had a 19% death rate. Not stating or formulating any opinions on future deaths or anything of the sort. Just saying 200k divided by 3 million is not 19%. Its not even 1%.
 
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moose eater

US death rates re. COVID-19 are currently reported at 55,009, and climbing at about 1.2k+ to 1.6k+/day, meaning that the recent (politically pressured, seemingly optimistic) forecast stating that total deaths in the US would be around 60,000, is quite near in sight, and the proverbial train doesn't seem to be slowing for the station much.

https://ncov2019.live/data

Edit: If today's mortality rates keep pace in the latter half of the day, with the first half of the day, the US may witness close to 2,000 new deaths on this date.
 

Amynamous

Active member
US death rates re. COVID-19 are currently reported at 55,009, and climbing at about 1.2k+ to 1.6k+/day, meaning that the recent (politically pressured, seemingly optimistic) forecast stating that total deaths in the US would be around 60,000, is quite near in sight, and the proverbial train doesn't seem to be slowing for the station much.

https://ncov2019.live/data

Edit: If today's mortality rates keep pace in the latter half of the day, with the first half of the day, the US may witness close to 2,000 new deaths on this date.

Simply an fyi:

I’ve been tracking the total number of (tested) infections as well as the total deaths since the beginning of March.[i am a data nerd amongst having other nerdy qualities). I also calculate the three day running average to smooth out the daily “bounce”. On April 8th we had 1954 new deaths, and we have maintained a 2000 death per day(avg) ever since.
 

TychoMonolyth

Boreal Curing
Great. Now this. Almost looks like the the start of Gangrene

Great. Now this. Almost looks like the the start of Gangrene

https://mothership.sg/2020/04/covid-toes/
covid-toes.jpg


Case report. 40 days after the first autochthonous case of COVID-19 reported in Italy, we observed an “epidemic” of
acute and self-healing vasculitic lesions of the hands and feet in asymptomatic children and adolescents.
These lesions
constituted a novelty that led us to establish a link with the other much more severe novelty, i. e. COVID-19, which also
occurred almost simultaneously. This vasculitis is not the only cutaneous manifestation at the time of COVID-19, as
various types of rash and urticaria have been described. Unlike the latters, however, it is very characteristic and never
observed in the past; therefore, it can be a marker for epidemiological investigations. Here we describe this new skin
entity and discuss the differential diagnosis from a clinical point of view, the only one currently possible in the period of
health emergency in our district.

More...
https://www.ejpd.com/images/nuova-vasculite-covid-ENG.pdf
 
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moose eater

Thanks, Tycho. The link I posted above was sent to me by my friend in SW US who is currently trying to design an ozone room to decontaminate in when he returns home each day.

The images in your post reminded me of an article the other day, wherein they described a person losing a leg to COVID-19 complications. I told my wife that my best guess was that there was an underlying dx of diabetes, as COVID-19 can mess with proper oxygenation of the blood, and legs, feet, toes, etc., are often the first or most vulnerable limb for persons with diabetes to lose, under more typical circumstances.

Having seen your images and the descriptions, I'm not at all sure my guess was correct.

Here's another YouTube with a fellow talking about use of both UV-C and Ozone to achieve decontamination.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UdtKssU7po
 
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