Congo

[Bleiweis]

I don't she's thirsty...it's been raining for a couple of days here. I've also tried to flush out any excess stuff yesterday...so she has enough of i water i guess.
Temeprature has droped in the past two weeks yes...we've had 30-35degrees during the day, but then that sudenly droped do 20 degrees during the day and 12 during the night.
Here are some new photos. My camera isn't all that so it's hard to get good photos...and i'm a bad photographer also.

 

[Tangwena]

Hi Bleiweis have you checked under the leaves for mites ?
Tangwena

 

[Collembola]

i think it maybe manganase or magnesium (?) or a micro nutrient, as the new growth is not looking right (don't know too much about specifics)

sorry just usually associate leaves hanging straight down, to mean thirsty, leaves rolling down off a stem, to be overwatered, and yours looked more #1.

i have never had manganase (?), but if they were my plants, i would give them a heavy epsom spray and a liquid dose of nutrients, whilst the weather is dry, for their next uptake.

also garderners lime or calcium i am sure would be appreciated, in the soil.

and then hope they are revitalised.

epsom is good for the soil and spray.

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also it may be an idea to check the leaves and roots for pest,

root pest can exhibit all sorts of weird problems.

...hopefully just the rain, and they will be right as rain, in no time.

(and more people will help)

 

[Bleiweis]

@Tangwena: i've checked under the leaves...no mites there. Can't check the roots obviously :/

@Collembola: i was also thinking about Mag or Cal deficiency also...i just don't know how to tackle that problem. Have to buy some liquid ferts i guess.

Could it be that the batguano is doing something strange with the soil pH? I've added some woodash yesterday but it doesn't seem to help yet.

 

[Collembola]

hello,

"epsom salts" or "magnesium sulfate" for magnesium,

i cannot remember, because i just dump a bit in, maybe a table spoon in 1l, then spray on every leaf surface (not in direct sun).

(not to be done in flowering, but i think is not very harmfull)

when i mix compsot to begin, a big handfull per m/2.

gardeners lime is "calcium carbonate" is for calcium, i think it is quite bad for quick calcium, with very little water soluble, and the rest slow release (??), buy hey ho, i don't want to buy expensive cal-mag...

it is a ph neutraliser by trade, to be added in advance.

i don't think marijuana needs that much calcium ?, i don't know,

good luck

 

[dubi]

Hi Bleiweis,

I'm very sorry to hear it. I'm not sure 100 % from here, but looks like the plant is suffering some kind of fungus or virus infection. If the plant has enough water and still is falling down then the plant has most probably a problem/illness in the roots.

I would recommend you to apply an anti fungal product with copper in the soil (please make sure first it can be used with edibles plants and check the withdrawal period of the product before its use). Next try to let dry the soil as long as possible between waterings. May also apply a bit of sulfur sprayed with water in case the infection came from the upper part of the plant.

Hope we are still on time to recover it.

 

[Dog Star]

Horstail maybe.... i didnt found better cure for funghal diseases than Horstail tea.

 

[sweet-emotion]

I'm sorry Bleiweis, but that same thing happened to me last year with the only Green Haze I got to germinate, and I think it's a virus or some kind of fungus, as Dubi said.

My plant was a female but never threw pistils, and the problem started from bottom to top, mainly in the center part of the plant, focusing on the biggest leaves. Although the plant continued growing normally for some time, then it started to turn yellow. So I made the decision of killing her. In my caee it was really strange, cause I never water them unless they need it, so I guess it was a pretty weak plant. A pity, cause I couldn't grow a single Haze out of a pack.

 

[Bleiweis]

Any thoughts about transplanting her into the ground? She about 1week-10days into flowering. Would i even worsen the situation?

 

[Collembola]

hello,

i would leave her,

you can check for "fungus" / "mold" by examining the brown spots and see if it is growth of pathogen ("fur" / "powder" etc), or perhaps, some nutrient disorder that has weakened the plants ability to fight of "x" and more mundane necrosis (? i think ?)

also if you scrape away top soil, then take a root / soil sample, see condition of root / pest check.

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i am still optimistic (if pest free), because, i don't think "fungus" causes mottling yellowing like that (whereas non healty cells, is nice food for pathogens...)

...don't know about virus' though (???).

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...it could be myriad of factors,

but > could you elaborate on the soil / compost you are using "rich soil" sounds a bit mischevious ?.

maybe not enough micronutrients ?.

also i don't think guano is good for flowering.

if you can find a fertilizer with N (1-4 (low)) P (4-10) (high) K (2-8) (not as important as P), and hopefully magnesium.

then maybe she will do better,

it is annoying thing with growing in pots, especially if you get alot of rain, alot of nice things can get washed away,

maybe ?

maybe completely wrong also,

hehe

regards!

 

[MadMac]

Hello,
had the same sit some time ago...
it happen when i repot my huge plant... she was 150cm high and in a 7 liter pot.
After repotting in 20 liter pot i had the same issues but no spots or something on the leaves...
From up to 70 cm the plant looks like she would be go dead...
So what happened ? Well i found that i had damage the root's and that cause this hanging leaves from 70cm to the top....
First i thought my soil mix was bad but all other plant's loved it... so that was not the issue... than maybe fungus mites or a virus... but that was also not the case... then after pulling the plant out of the soil and wash her with water to see what was wrong i found that i had hurt the root's while repotting and that was the problem...
So i would carefully take the plant out of soil... clean the root's ... looking for a problem there and carefully repot the plant.... than trim and prune it so that she can recover better.
I lost 3 weeks but the plant recovered and was healthy after...
Well without the brown spot's i would be sure it's a root problem...
M.

 

[Bleiweis]

So today i checked her out again. Even more leaves turned yellow with black/brown spots all over them. No signs of mold/fur etc. I decided to transplant her into the ground despite she's allready flowering.
When i lifted her up from her pot i didn't notice anything suspicous. No criters, no mold etc. Roots looked abundant and white-healthy. I did damage the outer roots...she was holding on to the pot really strong (it was an old wooden pot).
When i pulled her out i shook her and lots of leaves fell off by themselves. Not a good sign. So either she's dead already or heading towards the end.
I dug up a big hole, put her in...and that's it. In the next two days she's either going to make it or break it.
I'll keep you guys posted.
Thanks to everybody...great response! You've helped me a lot
Best wishes to all!

 

[Stonyherbs]

Sorry to hear bleiweis, that sucks. Im dealing with nute lock out in my garden atm. I was freaking but took a step back and checked everything. Found my ph meter was out of calibration. My ladies are recovering nicely now.
So i am sending happiness and positive karma to you and your garden bro...Peace
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[Koondense]

Good luck Bleiweis, fingers crossed!

*looks bacterial/viral related to my eye, but I may need glasses anyway

 

[konopenko]

Sorry to hear about problems B. is there a chance of gettin illness from other plant growing nearby? Do you use mikoriza? Are those bulletproof? I hope she gets better, seeya amigo

 

[Carraxe]

Hi

If you are sure the plant hasn't been poisoned in any way, you could give salicylic acid a try. Aspirin makes the same effect. It is a phytohormone and triggers some self-defence mechanisms in the plants. I've solved some rare problems like this one. Minimum 100mg/liter, you can try with 200.

Good luck

 

[Bleiweis]

Quick update:
she's not responding to anything currently. She didn't get better neither did she get worse. So we're somehow in status quo. I guess i'll see what's up until the end of the week currently it's hot and from tomorrow on the temperatures are going to drop and rain is coming.

@konopenko: i don't think she got the illnes from any sorounding plants. None of them are ill. And she's the only one who's been in the pot actually. Yes i use mikoriza...you think that was the problem? Thanks for the good wishes

@Carraxe: thanks for the advice. Can i mess up anything if i give her aspirin? Im not sure of anything...it could be some sort of a lockout, illness, deficiency...i don't know

 

[dubi]

Hi Bleiweis,

Hopefully the big Congo gives a good yield of high quality flowers, despite the smaller sister got ill. Keep the positive vibe!

 

[dubi]

One congolese mother (Bangi dominant) from clone, 3 weeks of flowering outdoors.

 

[Bleiweis]

So...here are two pictures of "whats up". As you can see she is producing buds infact. So i don't know what to say really. The leafs are not fully erect as they are in a healthy plant, but they're not droopy all the way down either. Not really sure if i should cull the plant or not. She was stunned but she's developing slowly now. A loooot of leafs have turned yellow and were attacked by various pests...but she keeps fighting. She also got her scent back. Any thoughts?