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Corvette Doc
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I think the dead line is the 23rd from Mary Jane's web site but there was an earlier posting of the 18th. I got the PCK entered yesterday and my Black Jack in today. I haven't decided if I want to go for a 3rd yet.
The Judging is 3 fold; 1st they send out a sample for lab testing. During the wait some is divided up among several chosen judges, then during the event the remainder is given out to all the attendees to judge the people's choice... I really doubt they have time for counting on Sunday, but maybe they learned something I missed while hosting car shows??? The awards are handed out on Sunday.
half the dyring time, maybe less even, curing takes just as long, it happens in the sealed area (jar) where outside humidity is nearly irrelevant
Thanks for the info. If anybody is planning on submitting anything I would be sure to contact the sponsor to make sure it's the 23rd or I would get it in by the 18th. I missed Harvest Fest by just a couple of days.
Redbeardthewook
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Am I reading the club bill right that the club won't be able to provide product at all so like the dab bar at lazy lion is out a the question.
that's how i read it.
imo the lazy lion has always been super shady....
i mean, they SELL herb to ANYONE right off the street (21+) with NO license.
at least the speakeasy (right next door) does the whole buy tokens and trade the tokens for products like food, weed, dabs, snacks, etc.
but LL just takes your money, gives you herb, they will allow smoking inside, but really would rather you leave to smoke... which is a shame because i've always wanted to have a place to chill and puff w peeps. instead what we have are tons of stores and nooplace to partake "publicly"
i have to share this, it's a repost from another site,
backstory: the organizers of bongathon opened a club last year called "potus" (people of the united states)
the club was inside denver city limits and DPD raided the place on 4/20 weekend and shut it down. all criminal charges were dropped, so that means the city just went in and shut down a club that was NOT breaking any laws (or at least no laws that the state felt it could prosecute on)
anyhow, here is a really really good read about what is going on in colorado concerning "legalization like alcohol":
backstory: the organizers of bongathon opened a club last year called "potus" (people of the united states)
the club was inside denver city limits and DPD raided the place on 4/20 weekend and shut it down. all criminal charges were dropped, so that means the city just went in and shut down a club that was NOT breaking any laws (or at least no laws that the state felt it could prosecute on)
anyhow, here is a really really good read about what is going on in colorado concerning "legalization like alcohol":
Bobby_Stainless
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Lemme get some of those THC Chicken Crispers!
Not really sure how these things are supposed to survive.
Can't sell Cannabis. Can't sell food. Who the fuck is going to pay more than 10 bucks to smoke weed somewhere?
Not really sure how these things are supposed to survive.
Can't sell Cannabis. Can't sell food. Who the fuck is going to pay more than 10 bucks to smoke weed somewhere?
can't sell food that is prepared onsite, can sell food, just can't prepare it onsite. it could be as simple as renting a nearby commercial kitchen preparing food there and transporting it short distance to the club so that food can be sold there as "catering".
can charge entry fees, can sell ANYTHING ELSE THEY WANT except for cannabis and food prepared onsite.
i just made a big post in the good rec weed in denver thread about this; cannabis AND ______
instead of just offering selling and consumption (separately of course), clubs and dispensaries could diversify, like a record store that has a weed room (there is one in FoCo, record shop/dispensary mix), or a mini golf place that has stoner days/nites, bowling and weed, swimming and weed, all kinds of OTHER options than just offeriing selling and/or consumption.
so they aint' paying just to come in and smoke weed.... paying for something else - how about a discount movie theatre, showing older films for cheaper AND you can smoke inside during the movie? or a weed carnival, ride the ferris wheel, hit the bong at the top
options are out there, and once the licenses exist and start being issued i'm hoping that someone has more $$ and ambition and better ideas than i do.... because i can't wait for cannabis clubs to exist similar to bars....
i'm ok with a "bring your own" situation, just because most herb available in dispensaries (legally licensed) is junk. but i can see the point of view of a potential business owner getting pissed that the state has divided consumption and purchases so far apart.
the whole onsite consumption thing is more and more rediculous as time goes on. when they finally strike down the consumption onsite rule in some way or another (eventually i believe there will be some LEGAL way to consume what you buy where you buy it) this whole thing is going to seem so absurd.
sure, it's a hard niche to fill without either lots of startup capitol OR being grandfathered in to avoid new licensing fees (which im being told is a big point of contention, many many legislators are against any grandfathering, that's what im told by peeps at the capitol, doesn't mean it wont happen)
but i think they have a very viable market potential... the cannabis clubs that is. when 1284 passed people said the same about dispensaries - that they would fail to operate properly underneath all the regulation, and in part that has proven to be true, many hundreds of dispensaries (2010 ish) consolidated down, big guys bought up the lil guys who couldn't hack it under the new regulations.
can charge entry fees, can sell ANYTHING ELSE THEY WANT except for cannabis and food prepared onsite.
i just made a big post in the good rec weed in denver thread about this; cannabis AND ______
instead of just offering selling and consumption (separately of course), clubs and dispensaries could diversify, like a record store that has a weed room (there is one in FoCo, record shop/dispensary mix), or a mini golf place that has stoner days/nites, bowling and weed, swimming and weed, all kinds of OTHER options than just offeriing selling and/or consumption.
so they aint' paying just to come in and smoke weed.... paying for something else - how about a discount movie theatre, showing older films for cheaper AND you can smoke inside during the movie? or a weed carnival, ride the ferris wheel, hit the bong at the top
options are out there, and once the licenses exist and start being issued i'm hoping that someone has more $$ and ambition and better ideas than i do.... because i can't wait for cannabis clubs to exist similar to bars....
i'm ok with a "bring your own" situation, just because most herb available in dispensaries (legally licensed) is junk. but i can see the point of view of a potential business owner getting pissed that the state has divided consumption and purchases so far apart.
the whole onsite consumption thing is more and more rediculous as time goes on. when they finally strike down the consumption onsite rule in some way or another (eventually i believe there will be some LEGAL way to consume what you buy where you buy it) this whole thing is going to seem so absurd.
sure, it's a hard niche to fill without either lots of startup capitol OR being grandfathered in to avoid new licensing fees (which im being told is a big point of contention, many many legislators are against any grandfathering, that's what im told by peeps at the capitol, doesn't mean it wont happen)
but i think they have a very viable market potential... the cannabis clubs that is. when 1284 passed people said the same about dispensaries - that they would fail to operate properly underneath all the regulation, and in part that has proven to be true, many hundreds of dispensaries (2010 ish) consolidated down, big guys bought up the lil guys who couldn't hack it under the new regulations.
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Yeah, when are we going to be able to have a straight up "Coffee Shop" model in place? I'm not against any of the clubs at all but I just don't see the point? It just seems to me like a creative way to cash in on a loophole. Shit I see people ripping pens all the time while their driving along. You don't have to get too creative on where you smoke even though it's not in your house.
How do they get their cannabis that they sell anyways? Are they subject to all the same regulations as medical/rec dispensaries or are they way more Grey area since they are already operating kind of as an anomaly anyways?
Bobby_Stainless
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Wonder if I can hire strippers to work at mine?
they (clubs) wont be able to sell cannabis, it will be a "bring your own" scenario.
most likely they will provide (and/or sell) intake methods like bongs, fancy vapes, papers, blunts, glass.
and yes, operating a club currently is exploiting a loophole. but the bottom line is that there are hundreds of thousands of cannabis tourists coming to colorado yearly, and they can't smoke in their hotel rooms, not supposed to do it in public, cant smoke where they purchased it.... literally between a rock and a hard place with a bag of legal weed and noplace to go and safely, legally, smoke it.
so therefore, in my opinion, clubs currently operating are providing a MUCH needed environment that literally is essential for the entire cannabis market in colorado to thrive.
potential million dollar + idea right there.only hangup i see is that clubs probably won't be able to serve alcohol, so the herb and booze would have to be BYOB (buds/beer/Bho). imo strip clubs really do depend on the alcohol sales... but you can always charge entry fee (i believe ibake does now)
^^^^thats what's up Bobby ! Said the same thing at work last night. Word for word. Lol!
Bobby_Stainless
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Maybe just really hot lingerie chicks, so its not considered a strip club.
I wouldnt want a buncha handies going on in my place any how. lol.
I wouldnt want a buncha handies going on in my place any how. lol.
Some one is going to have to sue the state, since the state is in violation of a64 that was passed by the voters, tax and regulate like alcohol.
The state has not been regulating like alcohol like they've been directed by the law that was passed, is how I feel.
It's like the elected people have never heard of the coffee shops that the Dutch have, so they
The state has not been regulating like alcohol like they've been directed by the law that was passed, is how I feel.
It's like the elected people have never heard of the coffee shops that the Dutch have, so they
suits against the state were issued WAY back when 1284 passed, iirc rob corry filed one of them at least.
problem i see is no one wants to organize anything
the model that the spanish social clubs would hold some merit, when they decriminalized it someone made that then it was still illegal to procure it and there for growing and consumption clubs where formed. A similar idea would work here i think but it would be more a members only invite thing like a country club setup not a club open to the general public.
the model that the spanish social clubs would hold some merit, when they decriminalized it someone made that then it was still illegal to procure it and there for growing and consumption clubs where formed. A similar idea would work here i think but it would be more a members only invite thing like a country club setup not a club open to the general public.
Bobby_Stainless
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I really would put the time and effort in, if I saw a dispensary type profit to be made.
If you have to cater your food, and all you can take in is a door fee and merch sales... The way that is successful, is in a popular place. That means expensive rent.
That goes back to what Avinash said, which is capital intensive.
Think this type of interior, downtown.
Lost o money. CO will have to figure out how to tax the door fee or something, for them to care, if clubs are successful.
If you have to cater your food, and all you can take in is a door fee and merch sales... The way that is successful, is in a popular place. That means expensive rent.
That goes back to what Avinash said, which is capital intensive.
Think this type of interior, downtown.
Lost o money. CO will have to figure out how to tax the door fee or something, for them to care, if clubs are successful.
Bobby_Stainless
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Already have the concept.
The Library... Chicks dressed as librarians.... Holy shit.
The Library... Chicks dressed as librarians.... Holy shit.
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